I hate Star Trek Online.. most people active on these forums share my opinion.

Stil.. there are 1000s of people on that nerdgasming every day.

Gotta try things yourself.

Asheron's Call 2 was my first MMO Played that game about 10-12 years ago. Played it all the way till EQ2 and then WoW releases. Man those 2 games were awesome when they started out. Over the years I played probably every new game that came out, always going back to EQ2 or WOW. Then they started dumbing the games down, to the point of massacring thier own creations until I finally quit EQ2 and WOW for good. Then there was all the so called "modern" games like AION, RIFT, SW-TOR,

GW2, and the list goes on..

Well I heard Asherons's Cal 2 was just ressurected from the dead by Turbine and thought "Oh man I used to really love that game back in the day but no way I could ever play a game that old now"

Well gess what?

I just had to try it out again and to my amazement it felt like coming home from a long trip!

The game is better than any game I have played since and the graphics aren't half bad once you get the feel for things and the gameplay more than makes up for it. And yes I tried AC1 for about 2 weeks and despite what a lot of old schoolers will say AC2 is way better.

If you want a real MMO and deep engaging gameplay as well as the most amazing community you have ever experienced give AC2 a try and you might be surprised how good it is for a game that was shut down so many years ago.

AC2 was and still is better than any of the crop of lame, lazy game attempts since the start of World of Warcraft.

Originally posted by Piiritus
Waiting for more news about TESO and especially EQ Next. I loved EQ, maybe because it was my first MMO.

I'm with you on that. 

To me TESO looks like it will just sell boxes and fail, but never know. For 2013 it's the only MMO that looks at all interesting. If they go with a sub model, I will definitely pass on playing it. I'm so excited to hear news about EQnext, EQ was my first MMO. I just really, really hope SOE learns their F2P models are bad. 

Tried Blade and Soul, didn't enjoy it. Another no trinity no aggro MMO. Same with TESO, no aggro system or trinity as far as I can tell. I'm already stuck playing GW2 because there's nothing better out there. Maybe Tera if they put out more content but the only content I forsee is cash shop. Such a sad year for healers/supports.

EDIT* Don't think I can invite you, looks like it was just a set time:

We want you to experience Guild Wars 2 and Lost Shores with your friends, so on Monday November 12, we will turn on Refer a Friend Free Trial. You will be able to invite up to 3 Friends to play Guild Wars 2 with you for free from November 15-18.

I'm more excited about this year than I was about 2012 in terms of MMOs.  It seems there's finally a shift towards more Sandbox styled games and user created content or innovation what with the Map/Quest creator of Neverwinter, the interaction between Television and Video Game with Defiance and the reimagined Final Fantasy XIV.  With regards to FFXIV they're adding some of the most popular things from past FF games into the mix such as Gold Saucer, the Crystal Tower,  Gunblades (One of the main bad guys has one on their website, pointing it at you), and there was even talk about Red XIII early in development (though it was never confirmed).  

In terms of Storyline, they all see almost limitless; the idea of playing as many alts as you want but never doing the same quests seems to be a good idea on paper when it comes to Neverwinter (as they seemlessly add player made quests to real world objects, bar keepers, NPCs, and mercenary job boards).  The ability to see something altered in the show affect the game and vice versa will be interesting (even speaking player's names that performed well on the show side of things), in addition to the three Main Storylines of FFXIV where you don't have to grind five levels to get to the next part.  The storyline in FFXIV alone is supposed to be long enough to level you to max level without doing any side quests or leves unlike in past games such as SWTOR and the first version (Not to mention there being 10+ different classes plus workers to level, so it isn't just get a max level in a month and be done with low level content).

Then we have the possibility of Blade N Soul to release, which may be more of the same in some regards, but with the best over the top combat we've ever seen in a MMORPG.

DON'T go with GW 2 unless you want spammy/zergy pos where devs are capable of backstabbing you at any given time. It is also pretty confused at what it wants to be: PvE or PvP game? Action or Strategy game? Taken for Real or taken for lolz!

Just don't waste 50 Euro on that. Rather try LoTRO/Aion/TSW or hell even some non MMO games(try LoL, try Smite, try Total War franchise, give Diablo a chance{go Hardcore DURN it!!!}, the list goes on and on and on). If you must play an MMO-at least play Real one(as much as it can be).

As for topic: none. Perhaps ES:O-but I am doubtful about it because a) I don't think it'll come out until 2014 and b) it has an "Online" suffix to its name-and all "... Online" games sucked(pretty much-if you count out LoTRO). There are enough good games from other genres coming out tbh...

Originally posted by Claum

So you guys say that Archage could give me lot of fun like WoW and Lineage 2 did in the old days ?? :) but pvp kind of looks slow and the fight seems long and booring . I will take a deep look in Archage than but after playing so much time and having no game to play is pretty depressive :D

Check this dueling video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2_mAC8uP9ps

For me AA fights feel too fast. Some finish in 5 seconds.

AA looks promising, but people expect too much from it. Making the game level based with target combat was huge mistake imho. Sea battles look great tho.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Claum

So you guys say that Archage could give me lot of fun like WoW and Lineage 2 did in the old days ?? :) but pvp kind of looks slow and the fight seems long and booring . I will take a deep look in Archage than but after playing so much time and having no game to play is pretty depressive :D

 

ArcheAge has siege battles if you join a faction on the 3rd continent.  Or you can become a pirate and hunt other players / sink their ships on the open seas, etc.  Steal crops from other players, murder players, go to jail, and such.

 

But it's not a PVP-centric game.  So if you are looking for instant action PVP everytime you switch the game on, you might stick with your other games, or try LoL.

 

ArcheAge has a big appeal to those interested in sandbox elements, with a mix of PVE, PVP, crafting, house decorating, teraforming (3rd continent), player-to-player relations / interactions, and so on.  Unless, it gets "westernized".

Archeage seens to be like UO + L2 + quests and factions.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Karteli

Your description makes it sound far more pvp orientated than the "go over there in a tupperware box to pvp" of wow.

It did sound that way .. whoops! hehe

 

I guess I should clarify about a couple points .. doing bad deeds in the world (ie against your faction) will land you in prison with a 30 minute cooldown from the game, when caught by the guards.  Theres a multiplayer minigame with a ball in prison, while you wait though (non combat pvp).  Prison cooldowns prevent aggressive PVP / griefing.

 

The sieges are orchestrated events between guilds only.  They are carefully considered beforehand, with intentional damage done to a rival guild.  They aren't something that anyone can just queue up for and drop in.  It would be a major event that guildies would want to show up for.  I believe there is a fixed time between declaring war and when the battle actually starts, so guildies know when to log on.

 

The pirate faction might be closer to free PVP (anyone can become one if they are very naughty), but you are hated by the civilized factions, as a drawback (kind of like being an enemy of Booty Bay in WoW .. except every town wants to kill you, not just Booty Bay..).  Pirates get their own safe havens /towns though, so theres that.

 

From what I gather, anyways.

 

I think that when people talk about "free pvp", they are not meaning a "pvp without any consequences", but just the possibility of to kill anyone, without artificial barriers.

Kartelli tried to make sound like Archeage will have a sort of restricted pvp, when in reality AA will be more "pvp-friendly" than Lineage 2 itself.

As a example: the punishment for PK in Lineage 2 were harsh (risk to lose itens that took weeks or months to get, loss of xp that took much time to earn), and were aplicable to any PKer (except clan members at war).

In Archeage, the punishment will be "only" a time in jail, with the possibility to flee, to be acquited by others players or even the PK not be reported... and this only with members of the same faction and in the southern continents. You can kill freely members of the oposit faction and anyone in the northern continent. You can be a pirate and be able to free kill anyone too.

Originally posted by Theodwulf
I am having the same MMO ennui, right now I mess around with planetside 2  and shopping for single playergames just as a distraction.  I doubt that we are alone in this feeling. My hard core Wow playing friends told me their beloved WoW is only good for a time sink these days...dark days indeed.

+1 for the use of ennui

Originally posted by Claum
After 12 years of playing good games, sometimes waiting max 1 year for a good game to release!  now i left without any hopes to find a good game. All mmorpg's out there are booring, i heard gw2 failed, i was hoping for d3 !  but that failed big time, sc2 is for hardcore no life pro players  and right now i have only   dota2 to play , i would really need an mmorpg game.

You heard wrong.

Besides there are plenty of games coming out this year I am excited for.  Namely Neverwinter and Elder Scrolls Online.