They want an early 2013 release, and by early I'm quessing they mean Q1? (Q2+ isn't imo, "early") so they want to release it by march, april in the latest, but they still haven't even started closed beta.

Is an early 2013 release realistic, or are they really pushing for time?

Originally posted by Legere
depends man, some games do closed betas, and open betas for months.   games like archeage, for years. other games, differnt aspects are tested in beta and might last only 2 - 4 weeks.  a game like neverminter?  release in 8-12 weeks might be possible.

what exactly do you mean by "a game like neverwinter"? What aspects of NW allows it to have a shorter CB period than other games?

Originally posted by mattidore

Originally posted by Legere
depends man, some games do closed betas, and open betas for months.   games like archeage, for years. other games, differnt aspects are tested in beta and might last only 2 - 4 weeks.  a game like neverminter?  release in 8-12 weeks might be possible.

 

what exactly do you mean by "a game like neverwinter"? What aspects of NW allows it to have a shorter CB period than other games?

not to put this game down by any means, but for example - they have only 5 classes - compared to how many of WoW? also - i see it as much more linear e.g. oblivion rather than WoW.. you follow a story, scripted.. rather than open world vs whatever..especially something new like gw2

i think its much easier to plan and script and get it right first time round.. so betas are more there for server staility testing and misc bugs compared to balancing issues and development reasons

Depends on how polished it is when beta starts. If they've gotten most everything handled in Alpha there's no need for a lengthy beta. Only time will tell.

Originally posted by Legere

Originally posted by mattidore

Originally posted by Legere
depends man, some games do closed betas, and open betas for months.   games like archeage, for years. other games, differnt aspects are tested in beta and might last only 2 - 4 weeks.  a game like neverminter?  release in 8-12 weeks might be possible.

 

what exactly do you mean by "a game like neverwinter"? What aspects of NW allows it to have a shorter CB period than other games?

not to put this game down by any means, but for example - they have only 5 classes - compared to how many of WoW? also - i see it as much more linear e.g. oblivion rather than WoW.. you follow a story, scripted.. rather than open world vs whatever..especially something new like gw2

i think its much easier to plan and script and get it right first time round.. so betas are more there for server staility testing and misc bugs compared to balancing issues and development reasons

ahhh i see, i see. I haven't really looked into the game myself, as it only just started to get my attention. I hope it isn't TOO similar to GW2, I was a huge fanboy and felt kinda let down by it. Oh well, guess i'll just have to wait, hopefully cb is soon.

Also, devs mentioned they'll be phasing in people throughout the duration of CB, sounds lengthy to me.

Originally posted by Scot
What we should all want is a late release. That way you will get a better game.

Agree.  I would rather have full content well polished game no matter how long the wait.  

I seldom stay in games after beta, I want to check them out but they feel like they lack to much content for serious play.  I usually favorite f2p games that were p2p because they're fixed up better.  The only down side is the company might see going f2p as down sizing instead of upgrading and stop supporting the game with any seriousness.  

Best game I ever played was f2p from the start but I left that game a 100 times before finally coming back to stay.  I hate waiting for content updates far more than waiting for game release.

Originally posted by mattidore
On another note, do you guys reckon PWE is gonna fuck up Neverwinter? LIke they usually god with all their games?

Hmm not with Wizards of the Coast and R.A. Salvatore backing this game up, this is not just a game PWE can just screw over.

Originally posted by kage71

Originally posted by mattidore
On another note, do you guys reckon PWE is gonna fuck up Neverwinter? LIke they usually god with all their games?

Hmm not with Wizards of the Coast and R.A. Salvatore backing this game up, this is not just a game PWE can just screw over.

Does the game have anything about D&D franchise? It's an honest question because i have no clue. D&D deserve a hell of a good product imo, by pure respect if anything else.

Originally posted by redcapp
It's Cryptic.  Their whole philosophy is to churn out games rapidly, lol.

This.

Their big marketing point when selling hemselves to Atari was the ability to churn out games quickly and relatively cheaply with cash shops firmly in place(Which is pretty standard now for everyone it seems).I'm sure Atari sold them with the saem spiel to PWI too.

Originally posted by Requiamer

Originally posted by kage71

Originally posted by mattidore
On another note, do you guys reckon PWE is gonna fuck up Neverwinter? LIke they usually god with all their games?

Hmm not with Wizards of the Coast and R.A. Salvatore backing this game up, this is not just a game PWE can just screw over.

Does the game have anything about D&D franchise? It's an honest question because i have no clue. D&D deserve a hell of a good product imo, by pure respect if anything else.

I am watching both Neverwinter  Pathfinder Online and I think that Pathfinder will likely end up closer to a true D&D experience.  The Pathfinder game is an offshoot of D&D and they are building a sandbox game.  I will probably play both but am most excited by Pathfinder.

Their Kickstarter for PFO  ends today so check it out if it sounds interesting.

I'm personally hoping for a mid-may beta with a june or july relase. Otherwise, I may not finish my thesis and graduate...

Originally posted by Slapshot1188

Originally posted by Requiamer

Originally posted by kage71

Originally posted by mattidore
On another note, do you guys reckon PWE is gonna fuck up Neverwinter? LIke they usually god with all their games?

Hmm not with Wizards of the Coast and R.A. Salvatore backing this game up, this is not just a game PWE can just screw over.

Does the game have anything about D&D franchise? It's an honest question because i have no clue. D&D deserve a hell of a good product imo, by pure respect if anything else.

I am watching both Neverwinter  Pathfinder Online and I think that Pathfinder will likely end up closer to a true D&D experience.  The Pathfinder game is an offshoot of D&D and they are building a sandbox game.  I will probably play both but am most excited by Pathfinder.

 

Their Kickstarter for PFO  ends today so check it out if it sounds interesting.

Really thats comparing apples and oranges.

Neverwinter has the foundry for UGC and the setting will by far fulfill the D&D experiance in terms of a story and an adventure.  Yes linear experiance but to those that like to play D&D for the story and such that is what D&D is.

Pathfinder from the sounds of things is all bout freedom yet there is no way for players to tell a story through created NPCs and such.  Likely a great sandbox game and the openess of choices but lacks story telling tools like the foundry system but has the freedom that PnP has.  But all this is talk by the developers of Pathfinder Online.  I'll believe them when I see a working product and not promises like sooo many promises that previous MMOs also sang and fell flat on their faces in delivering it.

Neverwinter and Pathfinder Online presents extremes imo in D&D.  Those that like the experiance of the lore and story and being the hero vs those that want freedom of choices and actions.