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  rdrpappy

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8/08/12 12:12:58 AM#61
Originally posted by Jemcrystal

Was Russia chosen because the people are more receptive and less gripe, bitch, and moan? 

 Maybe it was chosen first because they are next freakin door to the developers, but dont let me ruin all the hyperbole.

  Nitth

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8/08/12 12:18:21 AM#62

Does this title not answer its own questions with people bitching about it being released in Russia?


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  User Deleted
8/08/12 12:28:37 AM#63
Originally posted by fenistil

 

That's are reasons.

That's are reasons, indeed.

  Mothanos

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8/08/12 12:58:23 AM#64

Its a well knows fact Asian's can grind 20 hours straight farming the same mobs for days on end.

We western folks dont want to farm the same shit 24/7 even tough we might have a few people in our mids who can and will do that kind of stuff.

MMO's that are to grindy are shit, who wants to spend their few little off hours grinding the same mobs for hours on end ?

 

So i just worked 8 hours, come home to my family we cook play and when to kids go to bed we have some spare time to game.

You realy want to keep pressing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 mob dead tab target 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 tab target 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 for hours on end ?

Sorry but those games belong to the past.

MMO's need to deliver a far higher quality then it used to or it fails.

I tend to aggree that Western players whine alot, but in most cases we are right :P

 

Archage does look epic to me tough, my wife realy want to gove that gamer a try, altough i warned her that this might even be more grindy then Vanila Aion.

 

 

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  StinkFoot

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8/08/12 6:37:20 AM#65
Originally posted by Mothanos

Its a well knows fact Asian's can grind 20 hours straight farming the same mobs for days on end.

We western folks dont want to farm the same shit 24/7 even tough we might have a few people in our mids who can and will do that kind of stuff.

MMO's that are to grindy are shit, who wants to spend their few little off hours grinding the same mobs for hours on end ?

 

So i just worked 8 hours, come home to my family we cook play and when to kids go to bed we have some spare time to game.

You realy want to keep pressing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 mob dead tab target 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 tab target 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 for hours on end ?

Sorry but those games belong to the past.

MMO's need to deliver a far higher quality then it used to or it fails.

I tend to aggree that Western players whine alot, but in most cases we are right :P

 

Archage does look epic to me tough, my wife realy want to gove that gamer a try, altough i warned her that this might even be more grindy then Vanila Aion.

 

 

 Lol you say that but half the time even in TERA the player is killing the same monsters over and over again(especially in Nexus). Just a dyed a different color.

 

"I tend to aggree that Western players whine alot, but in most cases we are right :P"

 

Sorry but half of the time it's difficult for you casual players to even play the games right. It has to be made extremely easy and hand-holding for the type that picks up that game for a little bit of hours then goes back to whatever else they were doing RL. It's this type of mentallity that unfortunately ruins the rest of the games coming out for players who don't have this casual-fest problem.

 

The games get stripped until there's nothing left or become easier that players are literally burning through the game then sitting around with nothing to do (TERA. I remember posting once on their forums how removing the powders and crystals will screw the enchanting and it did. Now people are walking around with +9 weapons and nothing else to do. Why? Because they burned through all the content.)

 

 

  wizyy

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8/08/12 1:34:15 PM#66
Originally posted by Mothanos

Archage does look epic to me tough, my wife realy want to gove that gamer a try, altough i warned her that this might even be more grindy then Vanila Aion. 

You are basing this "grinding" thing about AA on.. what exactly?

There's multitudes of videos out there from betas, some (p)reviews, nobody who actually played beta had said anything about grinding.

Also, if the game is at least partially a sandbox, and we know it is, you know you can do anything you want anytime you want, so where's the grind there? There's no strict road to follow to get to max level.

If you keep thinking how every Asian MMO is a "grinder", you may remember that MANY popular western MMORPGs had grind elements, even sandboxes like Star Wars Galaxies.

One other thing to think about is - even if you get tired of your certain class, you can start again and choose another one out of 120 classes. Lol.

  PsychoPigeon

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1/11/13 12:10:48 PM#67
Originally posted by wizyy
Originally posted by Mothanos

Archage does look epic to me tough, my wife realy want to gove that gamer a try, altough i warned her that this might even be more grindy then Vanila Aion. 

You are basing this "grinding" thing about AA on.. what exactly?

There's multitudes of videos out there from betas, some (p)reviews, nobody who actually played beta had said anything about grinding.

Also, if the game is at least partially a sandbox, and we know it is, you know you can do anything you want anytime you want, so where's the grind there? There's no strict road to follow to get to max level.

If you keep thinking how every Asian MMO is a "grinder", you may remember that MANY popular western MMORPGs had grind elements, even sandboxes like Star Wars Galaxies.

One other thing to think about is - even if you get tired of your certain class, you can start again and choose another one out of 120 classes. Lol.

Problem is that person has a different definition for the word 'grind', there's no point trying to explain anything until that person puts in the time to elaborate.

I played Archlord which took 10 hours to get 1 level after level 65, I consider that the definition of grind.

  Kendane

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1/11/13 12:43:17 PM#68
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There are a number of possible reasons why ArcheAge is going to Russia first, but the idea that Americans are too stupid to understand the game and they need to dumb it down I think was disproven to them when American gamers prefered the actual Final Fantasy games over Mystic Quest(even if I kinda liked that game anyways). 

Its more likely(in my opinion anyways) that its going to Russia first because its probably cheaper. That way they can test the waters of a non Korean audience more cheaply then releasing it first to Americans.

  Zarak11

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1/12/13 6:33:46 AM#69

hi guys . b4 u  jump to conclusion.

I'm Russian and we didnt got 100% true info about AA release in our country. But many many things goes ti it , for example http://secret.mail.ru/ .

plus we have huuuge expereance in la2. Russians love PK more than raids or BG.

Many ppl was disapointed about mail.ru since they localized lotro. And we still hope that EU release is'nt take long time.

+ mail.ru has allods team who working with they project called skyforge,and other ppl think that secret is skyforge, not AA.

however we all could see, what happens when timer stop.

 

  ShakyMo

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1/12/13 6:38:29 AM#70
Think its more to do with Russian players like sandboxes more. Look at the large % of Russians in eve for instance.

There's a perception amongst game devs that westerners want wow clones.
  User Deleted
1/12/13 6:40:38 AM#71
Originally posted by fenistil

ArcheAge has big fan playerbase in Russia.

They have more people in beta, their fansites are big and last but not least Russians don't bitch about "omg I actually have to spend time in this game to achieve something" or "omg I might get killed in this game" or "it is so grindy I cannot level to max level in 2 weeks in ArcheAge".

 

That's are reasons.

 

ArcheAge has a chance in the west, but amount of bitching this game will get from NA & EU playerbase will be astounding.

 

Many people write that they don't want easy-mode or quick conveniant levelling path and similar things, but once they get it it is "gtfo with this grinder Fail" attitude.

 

+ more people in Russia will have knowegedle about what kind of game it is (rememebr AA so no NDA at all).

 

I know people that are talking about how they wait for AA and when they saw combat they said "it is not action combat FAIL!"

when it is known for 2 years and there are thousand of videos on youtube that show that AA has tradicional combat system.

How can you have interest in game for weeks and have not watch few freely conveniently avabile videos about it?

 

I sometimes lose faith in people.

+1

  Zarak11

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1/12/13 6:50:00 AM#72
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Think its more to do with Russian players like sandboxes more. Look at the large % of Russians in eve for instance.

There's a perception amongst game devs that westerners want wow clones.

Yeah,u right.

  coretex666

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1/12/13 6:57:39 AM#73

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  Zarak11

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1/12/13 7:02:50 AM#74
Originally posted by coretex666

 Was the reason ArcheAge went to Russia 1st because we're full of criticism?

My answer would be "No".

U wrong , what can i say . 

We allready has huge holywars at our forums , and the game isnt released yet , moreover we has it at cbt 3 . 

And if Russia made this huge interest of AA , why it was'nt a reason ...

  phoenix_genma_ken

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1/12/13 8:18:55 AM#75
Originally posted by Phlacc
Originally posted by sumsare

I'd guess it has more to do with publishers than anything else.

 

I'm sure you're right, but it is hard to ignore the amount of bitching and moaning America does.

europe is worse trust me....

 

  xAPOCx

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1/12/13 9:42:45 AM#76
Originally posted by Jemcrystal

Was Russia chosen because the people are more receptive and less gripe, bitch, and moan? 

yes

  TruthXHurts

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1/12/13 9:45:00 AM#77
Russians love sandbox FFA.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  Myria

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1/12/13 9:58:20 AM#78
Clearly Occam's Razor is a foreign concept to most of you.
  centrik91

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Why So Serious?

1/12/13 10:08:26 AM#79

This is the most embarrasing thread I've ever seen on this website in a long time.

 

  Serignuad

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1/12/13 10:12:22 AM#80
Originally posted by Myria
Clearly Occam's Razor is a foreign concept to most of you.

I get Occam's Razor.

But I am uncertain about the Heisenberg's principle. ;)

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