Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Czanrei

Mounted combat in Lotro is a joke and the devs should be embarrassed for releasing such lazy and shoddy work. There is not one single mmo out there that restricts mounted combat to only one region for one thing. Mounted combat being restricted to one area is a cash-grab pure and simple to get players to buy the new expansion.

Which goes back to Lotro evolving into a pay-to-win mmo over the past couple years. When a game allows the purchase of non-cosmetic gear, faster than normal mounts and XP and skill boosting potions/scrolls on Turbine's cash shop equals pay-to-win. Some gamers need to be smarter with their money and not waste money on pay-to-win garbage. 

Biggest load of nonsense I have seen in ages.  There is nothing that p2win in Lotro, the poster obviously does not understand what p2win is.  It is when you get a huge advantage from buying equipment from the item shop, or get matts that create such. 

You might want to look at what people can buy for themselves in PvMP.  It's P2W.

Few play LOTRO for PvP and the developers have said PvP is not priority. 

Read my signature.

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Czanrei

Mounted combat in Lotro is a joke and the devs should be embarrassed for releasing such lazy and shoddy work. There is not one single mmo out there that restricts mounted combat to only one region for one thing. Mounted combat being restricted to one area is a cash-grab pure and simple to get players to buy the new expansion.

Which goes back to Lotro evolving into a pay-to-win mmo over the past couple years. When a game allows the purchase of non-cosmetic gear, faster than normal mounts and XP and skill boosting potions/scrolls on Turbine's cash shop equals pay-to-win. Some gamers need to be smarter with their money and not waste money on pay-to-win garbage. 

Biggest load of nonsense I have seen in ages.  There is nothing that p2win in Lotro, the poster obviously does not understand what p2win is.  It is when you get a huge advantage from buying equipment from the item shop, or get matts that create such. 

You might want to look at what people can buy for themselves in PvMP.  It's P2W.

Geez, read the posts, if you want to pvp find another game, Lotro is a pve game, whining about the little used pvp side of the game is absurd.

I have spent $50 on this game($30 on a two month sub when it first came out and $20 when it went f2p to buy some store points) and have several level 85 characters.  Eve is my primary MMO, I just play Lotro occassionally.  Most of my characters have top end mounts, my max level characters do well in dungeon crawls, they do not lack equipment.  I am actually embarrassed that have not spent more, because I do enjoy the game.

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Czanrei

Mounted combat in Lotro is a joke and the devs should be embarrassed for releasing such lazy and shoddy work. There is not one single mmo out there that restricts mounted combat to only one region for one thing. Mounted combat being restricted to one area is a cash-grab pure and simple to get players to buy the new expansion.

Which goes back to Lotro evolving into a pay-to-win mmo over the past couple years. When a game allows the purchase of non-cosmetic gear, faster than normal mounts and XP and skill boosting potions/scrolls on Turbine's cash shop equals pay-to-win. Some gamers need to be smarter with their money and not waste money on pay-to-win garbage. 

Biggest load of nonsense I have seen in ages.  There is nothing that p2win in Lotro, the poster obviously does not understand what p2win is.  It is when you get a huge advantage from buying equipment from the item shop, or get matts that create such. 

You might want to look at what people can buy for themselves in PvMP.  It's P2W.

Few play LOTRO for PvP and the developers have said PvP is not priority. 

Read my signature.

That is a red herring at best and just obtuse at worst.  Why people play pvp is totally irrelevant with regards to the store.

P2W is a total propaganda buzzword.  It doesn't have an inherently defined meaning.  It has a perceived meaning that is different for most everyone.

I think people should stop trying to defend and rationalize why their game isn't "P2W" when mud-slingers come in and make some dimissive observation.  For me, P2W is anything where you can buy an advantage compared to non-purchases, are gated for not spending more, or are restricted from content altogether.  Pretty much every game is P2W.  In every game paying gives you some advantage even if it is just cosmetics that you would otherwise have to spend in game resources and time to acquire if that is even possible.  Some games have content locks (raid locks, daily / weekly limits) that mean you must spend more time and therefore more subscription money to keep up with everyone else.  Some games don't even let you play if you don't pay them.

So I say to those people, "So what?  Move on and go rationalize your game's pay to win scheme and quit trolling."

It's a weak game that has only survived because it's in Middle Earth.  It has the worst combat of any AAA MMO.  It's a single faction game in a world that has a very interesting evil faction.  PVP was a last second addition that has gotten little to no attention and they can't even be bothered to release the expansions when the end game content is ready for it.

It's a mess and an embarrassment.  It's sad that an MMO in the greatest fantasy IP is so damn boring and non immersive.  

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

It's a weak game that has only survived because it's in Middle Earth.  It has the worst combat of any AAA MMO.  It's a single faction game in a world that has a very interesting evil faction.  PVP was a last second addition that has gotten little to no attention and they can't even be bothered to release the expansions when the end game content is ready for it.

 

It's a mess and an embarrassment.  It's sad that an MMO in the greatest fantasy IP is so damn boring and non immersive.  

Well said, the only thing LOTRO has going for is its IP. Even with its awesome IP look how it is failing lol, never knew a company could possibly fail for having such a hudge ip such as LOTR.

@MMOGAMER, as long as pvp is in LOTRO it is part of the game. IDC if it is not their priority which in fact you are wrong now, because they said they are now going to be revamping and changing pvmp throughout the year. If PvP is in the game and it is pay2win well you can catagorize it as a pay2win game. Don't bother replying to this post though because i couldn't care less what you are going to say next, to me you are just a fanboy who can't look past how lotro is such a bad game in terms on everything but the PVE lore which noone can mess up on, its fricking lotr.