The only thing boring in gaming world are people complaining about clones. What I do care is if game is FUN, PLAYABLE, possibly BUG FREE, have good ANIMATIONS, ....

The last word I'm interested in is INNOVATION. This crap attitute have ruined a lot of could be good games.

What, new Mercedes have also 4 wheels? Uaaa .. fail, fail, fail ..... uaaaaa ...  

Originally posted by daltanious

The only thing boring in gaming world are people complaining about clones. What I do care is if game is FUN, PLAYABLE, possibly BUG FREE, have good ANIMATIONS, ....

The last word I'm interested in is INNOVATION. This crap attitute have ruined a lot of could be good games.

What, new Mercedes have also 4 wheels? Uaaa .. fail, fail, fail ..... uaaaaa ...  

Hey, if you like driving a black Honda Civic with a casette plater like youve done for 20 years...

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If rift is a clone of anything that is EQ. Also dont bring the how many people play argument. Its invalid. EU has it hard in rift due to trions lack of effort to support the game in that reagion but if anyone played rift on release, Icewatch atm is worth about three times the pop on 1.0 servers.

Anyway rift is great in what it is, and its the best of its kind, even if it may be that just because its the latest in that traditional mmorpg sub genre you ex players now call "themepark". no ones fault everyone on this damn page is yet another stuck up casual from the pop culture explosion of WoW a few years back and that you cant really play anything else wihtout seing warcrfat attatched to anything that calls it self mmorpg. Also stop trying to promote botwars two as inovation, its not. Unless the buy to play model is considered inovation on its own in some magical alternative universe. Its a damn shitty game with semi decent pve leveling and only worth the time for hardcore pvp (good for 1% of those who play mmos then ey)

Originally posted by Calmmo

 

If rift is a clone of anything that is EQ. 

uh, no.

Not even close.

Rift is almost as far from EQ conceptually as possible.

Originally posted by Burntvet

Originally posted by Jyces

When I first saw 'Rift: Storm Legion' being advertised on several different MMO sites, my initial thought was "Wow. Rift has an expansion coming out? I didn't realize anyone played anymore". I tried original Rift when it first came out, but quit soon after due to it having many similarities to a game I was already playing at the time  (WoW). At first, I had no intentions on playing this expansion. It wasn't until I came acrossed reviews of this game. I could not believe the large amount of positivity and praise that this expansion was being given. Curiousity eventually got the best of me, so I cracked and ended up buying the expansion. Let me start by saying, the reviews do not even give this game justice! It is nothing short of amazing. I cannot even believe that this is the same game. Trion has polished this game to perfection - no word of a lie. My advice to all players who previously played original Rift but ending up quiting? Come back! You will not regret it. 

Ancient Korean Proverb: "Trust not an "endorsement" from a 1 post forum handle."

 

 

Endorsement? No. I've actually had an account on this site for a while now but just never posted up until now. That doesn't mean my review isn't legit. I decided to take the time to write this review based on my experience. Believe what you will.

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by DMKano

Storm Legion would go down in history as one of the most epic expansions period, the Trion team should be awarded for the work they've done here, as since Kunark (1st eq1 expansion), what else has even come close?

WoW: Cataclysm? 

Not only it added new zones, but fully redone whole old world with thousands of new quests and new unique features. Im afraid Storm Legion cant touch that even if its a good expansion.

On another note Im surprised to hear that RIFT has changed so much. I thought it was extremely boring clone at release. Maybe I should give it another shot

I've actually never heard anyone say that Cataclysm was one of the most epic expansions to ever have come out. Although I am happy you enjoyed it (I actually didn't find it that bad either), the fact of the matter is that the majority of WoW players despised it and are thrilled to have moved on to another expansion.

Rift has come out with many  new features, added a ton of quests, and has more than tripled in size - I fail to see how Storm Legion "can't touch that". My advice to you is that you should give it another try, then reevaluate your review based on actual game experience.
 

Originally posted by Jyces

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by DMKano

Storm Legion would go down in history as one of the most epic expansions period, the Trion team should be awarded for the work they've done here, as since Kunark (1st eq1 expansion), what else has even come close?

WoW: Cataclysm? 

Not only it added new zones, but fully redone whole old world with thousands of new quests and new unique features. Im afraid Storm Legion cant touch that even if its a good expansion.

On another note Im surprised to hear that RIFT has changed so much. I thought it was extremely boring clone at release. Maybe I should give it another shot

 

I've actually never heard anyone say that Cataclysm was one of the most epic expansions to ever have come out. Although I am happy you enjoyed it (I actually didn't find it that bad either), the fact of the matter is that the majority of WoW players despised it and are thrilled to have moved on to another expansion.

Rift has come out with many  new features, added a ton of quests, and has more than tripled in size - I fail to see how Storm Legion "can't touch that". My advice to you is that you should give it another try, then reevaluate your review based on actual game experience.

Granted much of the assets were already in game (but plenty did change), but the size of Kalimdor + EK + the Cata zones is easily bigger than SL.  But as I said, much of the assets were already there.  

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by Jyces

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by DMKano

Storm Legion would go down in history as one of the most epic expansions period, the Trion team should be awarded for the work they've done here, as since Kunark (1st eq1 expansion), what else has even come close?

WoW: Cataclysm? 

Not only it added new zones, but fully redone whole old world with thousands of new quests and new unique features. Im afraid Storm Legion cant touch that even if its a good expansion.

On another note Im surprised to hear that RIFT has changed so much. I thought it was extremely boring clone at release. Maybe I should give it another shot
 

I've actually never heard anyone say that Cataclysm was one of the most epic expansions to ever have come out. Although I am happy you enjoyed it (I actually didn't find it that bad either), the fact of the matter is that the majority of WoW players despised it and are thrilled to have moved on to another expansion.

Rift has come out with many  new features, added a ton of quests, and has more than tripled in size - I fail to see how Storm Legion "can't touch that". My advice to you is that you should give it another try, then reevaluate your review based on actual game experience.

Granted much of the assets were already in game (but plenty did change), but the size of Kalimdor + EK + the Cata zones is easily bigger than SL.  But as I said, much of the assets were already there.  

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Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by Calmmo

 

If rift is a clone of anything that is EQ. 

uh, no.

 

Not even close.

 

Rift is almost as far from EQ conceptually as possible.

 

Then how far from wow is it? 1.000 light years? lol/

As for cataclysm being mentioned. PLEASE wake up, wow has been but a husk of it former self since wotlk.

In any case this review is rather weak and doesnt even mention let alone rate some of the biggest selling points of the game. Raiding for example, not one mention. Anywyay incomplete review is incomplete

Originally posted by Jyces

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by Jyces

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by DMKano



Storm Legion would go down in history as one of the most epic expansions period, the Trion team should be awarded for the work they've done here, as since Kunark (1st eq1 expansion), what else has even come close?

WoW: Cataclysm? 



Not only it added new zones, but fully redone whole old world with thousands of new quests and new unique features. Im afraid Storm Legion cant touch that even if its a good expansion.



On another note Im surprised to hear that RIFT has changed so much. I thought it was extremely boring clone at release. Maybe I should give it another shot

 

I've actually never heard anyone say that Cataclysm was one of the most epic expansions to ever have come out. Although I am happy you enjoyed it (I actually didn't find it that bad either), the fact of the matter is that the majority of WoW players despised it and are thrilled to have moved on to another expansion.

Rift has come out with many  new features, added a ton of quests, and has more than tripled in size - I fail to see how Storm Legion "can't touch that". My advice to you is that you should give it another try, then reevaluate your review based on actual game experience.

Granted much of the assets were already in game (but plenty did change), but the size of Kalimdor + EK + the Cata zones is easily bigger than SL.  But as I said, much of the assets were already there.  

Of course WoW is going to be much bigger.  It has 6 years and several expansions on Rift.

 

That was a direct comparison between cataclysm and Storm Legion.  The argument could be made that Cataclysm was bigger than SL if you take into acount all the work they put in to re do the vanilla zones.  It has zero to do with how long WoW has been out.

Originally posted by Calmmo

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by Calmmo

 

If rift is a clone of anything that is EQ. 

uh, no.

 

Not even close.

 

Rift is almost as far from EQ conceptually as possible.

 

Then how far from wow is it? 1.000 light years? lol/

 

 

Everquest: Leveling primarily done in groups

WoW: Designed to solo to cap as main method of leveling

Rift: Designed to solo to cap as main method of leveling

Everquest:  Large, static dungeons that arent a straight path from start to end

WoW: instanced, on-rails dungeons

Rift: instanced, on-rails dungeons

Everquest: massive, 50+ man raids

WoW: medium and small 25/10 raids

Rift: medium and small 20/10 raids

Everquest: Difficult crafting with high rates of failure for the top items

WoW: easy gathering, click and combine guaranteed item (and skill up)

Rift: easy gathering, click and combine guaranteed item (and skill up)

Everquest: Open world PvP only, little focus on PvP

WoW: Primary PvP focus on instanced combat (Battlegrounds and Arenas)

Rift: Prmary PvP focus on instanced combat (Battlegrounds)

Everquest:  Deadly mobs, where multiple mobs could mean death

WoW: weak mobs designed to be AoEd

Rift: weak mobs designed to be AoEd

Everquest:  Long, rewarding quests and item acquisition

WoW: instant gratification

Rift: instant gratification

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Everquest: Huge sprawling launch world, interesting races, multiple leveling paths

WoW: Large sprawling launch world, interesting races, multiple leveling paths

Rift: Small launch world, bland races, linear leveling experience  Large, sprawling expansion though, but no change linear leveling experience.

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Everquest:  Level cap character progression both gear and AAs with AAs being a huge part of player power

WoW:gear only level cap progression

Rift: Both gear and AAs, with AAs being largely irrelevant

Originally posted by dolgran8
Storm Legion is hands down the best expansion ever released to any MMO since Echoes of Faydwer. Trion is a pantheon for dev gods..

fixed that for you

I may come off as a rift fan, to which I am, but does that mean my opinion is overexxagerated? To the ones who just "tried it out," probably. One of the main things I see that turns people off from Rift is the lack of high population at early game. It's to be expected when rift content is focused at the end level. "Trying it out" means you've only taken a small taste. That also means that those who's played it fully can tell you about a bigger experience. And that's what I'm going by.

As a player who has gone through a lot of the content: raided, pvped, built my own dimension, puged, socialized (as far as that term goes in mmo to the naysayers), quested, grinded, leveled, crafted, and even just standing around being derpy; 

This game has really been a blast and still is. The raids are spectacular and often difficult yet exciting as class roles are pretty much versatile, leaving many options on who does what. Now, I will be honest and say there are min/max builds, but raid composition can have different classes doing roles uncommon to the typical stereotype. A rogue can dps, support, and even tank. Clerics can do all. Warriors have various tank and dps specs while mages can dps, support or heal.

All that holds anyone back from doing a different role is simply a lack of experience or gear to fit the desired role.

Storm legion has been out for a while now and believe me when I tell you that they have fixed many things since release. Quickly. Botting has been and is being addressed. Many bugs and glitches have been fixed. There are a still kinks I'm sure, but none that I have had a problem with. What is more amazing by the quick fixes however, is content THAT IS STILL BEING HAND OUT.

We've recently have a new 20 man raid that ties majorly to a leading figure that has been terrorizing Telara pre expansion. Regulos, the king of Death himself. The fight set in the Plane of death, which is amazing to me just as amazing as fighting Crucia in space. To have an expansion that allows you to defeat huge characters so early just alarms you that there is something even more amazing coming out later from the Dev team.

If you have never experienced the fast Trion content patches, updates, and hot fixes, then you would not understand how major and exciting it is to know that something is just around the corner, waiting to undermine the current astounding raids we have now. And even better yet, it is not another expansion or content you have to pay for, it's just a free update of content.

Originally posted by dolgran8
Storm Legion is hands down the best expansion ever released to any MMO in gaming history. Trion is a pantheon for dev gods..

Let me better elaborate this...

If you like Rift, then this expansion is amazing.  If you haven't played Rift before, or have and didn't really like it, this expansion is fairly pointless.

More of the same as usual. I bought the expansion, though. So many good reviews made me think that this expansion is above average. Guess what, it IS average. Good luck with the next expansion, never say never, hehe

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