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OP  1/10/13 6:21:34 PM#1

Seems it great fashion for latest game design to bring several races, more or less pretty or ugly.

To be honest, I would prefer to have better designed factions for PvP or correct class balance.

Even more classes will bring more fun then 5-6 races.

Not sure what you guys thinking about, but I don't even know how to get hypo about small shhhh like gnome, dwarf etc to be your avatar. =XD

May be we should have only 2 races: pretty and ugly? or even just one?

I don't talk about NPC, I don't care what race they are.

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1/10/13 6:28:31 PM#2

And just which race should all avatars be? How restrictive should that race's individual appearance be? Should they all be one gender? One color?  One height? One age? One weight?

How boring do you want avatars to be?



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1/10/13 7:20:36 PM#3
Race is just another word for something different. It mixes up the different type of looks available. The only time I really care about race is when I can get a statistical advantage or something like being smaller in PVP so that I can hide behind scenery. Also why I choose a short name.

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1/10/13 7:32:27 PM#4

I like having a lot of races. And when a game doesn't have them, or has too few of them, it's usually a problem for me.

See The Secret World. It's takes place in the modern world, so you only have humans. I do like the game, but the mere fact that I am limited to humans (as opposed to, ehm), just keeps bugging me.

Even in a game like GW2, I don't feel I have enough options. I guess I'm not comfortable with less than eight. That's probably why I loved Vanguard - a lot of races.

I like both the lore behind the races and the visual options they bring in. And I usually try each of them. It makes the game feel richer to me.

Now that I think of it, I care much more about races and lore than I do about class balance. :)



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1/10/13 7:50:06 PM#5
I like having many races, and not just cross copies like Rift does.


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1/10/13 7:56:45 PM#6

Ummmm... How about YES!

More of them and with different strengths and weaknesses to boot.

More options in my RPGs  >> yes please



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1/10/13 7:58:01 PM#7
Originally posted by MMOExposed
I like having many races, and not just cross copies like Rift does.

...and SWTOR

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1/10/13 8:02:26 PM#8
How do you figure you'd get better pvp or classes if you took out the races ?

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1/10/13 8:08:46 PM#9

If a creator like in CO and CoX was put into a fantasy MMO we'd be able to create our own races.. that'd be interesting.

But, yes, we need races. Races are a requirement of lore and story in fantasy. The storylines of almost all fantasy stories, games or otherwise, is almost always largely centered around racial conflicts. Monsters themselves are races.

How good would the film Alien have been if the alien looked and acted just like a human? Would LotR have been half as interesting if it was just humans vs humans while a fellowship of humans had to take a ring to mordor where there were more humans? There's a reason why people that havn't read the books know little about the Easterlings (the Men who fought in the armies of Morgoth and Sauron, especially the Battle of the Pelennor).. because it's just not as interesting.


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1/10/13 9:39:54 PM#10
Originally posted by Lovely_Laly

Seems it great fashion for latest game design to bring several races, more or less pretty or ugly.

To be honest, I would prefer to have better designed factions for PvP or correct class balance.

Even more classes will bring more fun then 5-6 races.

Not sure what you guys thinking about, but I don't even know how to get hypo about small shhhh like gnome, dwarf etc to be your avatar. =XD

May be we should have only 2 races: pretty and ugly? or even just one?

I don't talk about NPC, I don't care what race they are.

If you're going to throw out races, then you might as well throw out classes and factions. If devs focused more on gameplay rather than made up factions, races and classes wouldn't it be even better?

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1/10/13 9:43:58 PM#11

In most cases I wish there were more races. It still would be a pretty stale environment seeing just one or even just

two player races.  So yeah, we really do need races. Considering that if it were severely restricted, someone would be

making the choice of what that one race would be. How could a majority of people agree on that?


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1/10/13 9:50:01 PM#12
I personally like a lot of races to choose from also.

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1/10/13 9:53:02 PM#13
Races help add diversity to the game for those who enjoy the aesthetics of games. Some MMOs do it, some don't. It's not required and it certainly isn't forbidden.

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1/10/13 9:55:35 PM#14

It depends on the game if races are needed or not.


If you look at APB having only human characters is fine for the setting and the variety from the custom clothes designer is unrivaled in pretty much any other MMO. So no, races are not an absolute must.

However, you can't make a fantasy game and not have a few races like elves and dwarves. Not having races in LoTRO would ruin the setting.


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1/10/13 10:09:40 PM#15

 OP more races are better simply put. It adds variety. style andeven depth of gameplay if the races have varying attributes.

Would games like EQ, skyrim or many others be even half as decent if they all forced you to be the same boring human race

Character, or even if you had a ugly and pretty race?

   Sure some people like things "simpler" we all have our opinions. personally I think enough MMo's already suffer from dumbing down for casual/simplicity sake. yes it makes things easier for the Developers to limite players choices but it doesn't bring anything to the game. Don't think for a instant you will ever get "correct class balance" as long as you have 20 devs/playtestersprogramers testing classes for balance vs 200k+ players testing for ways to get the most out of their class, and in the end why should all classes be percfectly balanced doesn't that in it self add a dull layer of sameness to the game?

taking away races does not mean your gonna get more or better factions. if a Developer is gonna do a good job they will do it irregardless, otherwise its just removing things for the sake of making the game eaiser to make.

   If games like DAoC put out over 10 years ago could handle multiple factions, and races why with the increase in technology should we expect so much less from developers today? Mihtas well argue do we really need classes since they will never be balanced might as well just remove them so you can have more and better factions right? Then of course the factions will be unbalanced and you have to remove them as well. eventually you can have fun playing a 1 race, 1 class 1 faction game thats super easy to balance and develope. Yay that!


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1/10/13 11:51:00 PM#16
Originally posted by Lovely_Laly

Seems it great fashion for latest game design to bring several races, more or less pretty or ugly.

To be honest, I would prefer to have better designed factions for PvP or correct class balance.

Even more classes will bring more fun then 5-6 races.

Not sure what you guys thinking about, but I don't even know how to get hypo about small shhhh like gnome, dwarf etc to be your avatar. =XD

May be we should have only 2 races: pretty and ugly? or even just one?

I don't talk about NPC, I don't care what race they are.

No we dont, or classes or a variety of spells, or complex crafting.  We just need hit boxes and PvP. Is this a serious post?  You actually dont even need to get out of bed in the morning if you dont want to.  Things tend to get really complicated when you do.


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1/10/13 11:53:42 PM#17
So long as it suits the lore it doesnt matter to me really.

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1/10/13 11:55:18 PM#18
I think TSW may be the only game (that I am aware of ) that has only one race to play:  present-day human.

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1/11/13 12:01:23 AM#19
I like lot's of varied races. Not my #1 deciding factor for a game, but still fairly important..

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

1/11/13 1:39:55 AM#20
My idea is to have an art program as the char creation and we da people truly create our chars from scratch.  

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