Originally posted by Demogorgon

If only that was the only thing that was being dumb down... But the reality is that the whole genre is being nerfed into oblivion.

Where are the deep, complex and long lasting world MMO?!  Yep, nowhere... for now and even for the not so near future.

/sigh

Err hello just check my sig game,oh yeah let me think Origins Of Malu,Embers of Ceurus,Archeage,Black Desert oh and yes Wushu is damn complex and way deep hopefully one of these will float your boat and Pathfinder might be funded yet as well not bad for a genre nerfed into Oblivion is it ?

Originally posted by PieRad

They know they can get away with it.

 

Recipe for success.

 

Develop less,

develop faster,

(Low cost),

Hype product,

(High box sales)

Community complains,

Company makes promises,

Game loses subs,

Game goes F2P,

Game gains players, and increase revenue.

Cut down the crew.

 

Start new project

Repeat.

This man is a genius ^

Originally posted by DonY81
Is it me or are MMOs of late including future ones getting less and less classes. 4 seems to be the magic number these days. It majorly turns me off to be honest. I like options, more depth. It feels MMOs are just getting less and less depth about them. Am i the only 1 whose seeing this. Maybe im getting too picky....is it me?

You make the mistake thinking "many options automatically means more depth" when it doesn't. Depth is the amount of viable options. You can have game with16 classes where only 4 are viable and a game with only 6 well balanced classes will have more depth. Many old games from text-based dungeon crawlers to MMORPGs have many options but usually only a handful were useful. Newer games may have less options, but much larger percentage of them are "good choices" meaning they contribute to depth.

Originally posted by darker70

Originally posted by Demogorgon

If only that was the only thing that was being dumb down... But the reality is that the whole genre is being nerfed into oblivion.

Where are the deep, complex and long lasting world MMO?!  Yep, nowhere... for now and even for the not so near future.

/sigh

Err hello just check my sig game,oh yeah let me think Origins Of Malu,Embers of Ceurus,Archeage,Black Desert oh and yes Wushu is damn complex and way deep hopefully one of these will float your boat and Pathfinder might be funded yet as well not bad for a genre nerfed into Oblivion is it ?

I'll be in there with you on all of those. 

Originally posted by Bojman

Originally posted by PieRad

They know they can get away with it.

 

Recipe for success.

 

Develop less,

develop faster,

(Low cost),

Hype product,

(High box sales)

Community complains,

Company makes promises,

Game loses subs,

Game goes F2P,

Game gains players, and increase revenue.

Cut down the crew.

 

Start new project

Repeat.

This man is a genius ^

This is the "industry's" recipe. This is what they did to hip-hop in the late 90's. It went for each sentence being a complete thought with several meanings to "let's party in the club." 

Water it down, then stretch it out.

Originally posted by DonY81
Is it me or are MMOs of late including future ones getting less and less classes. 4 seems to be the magic number these days. It majorly turns me off to be honest. I like options, more depth. It feels MMOs are just getting less and less depth about them. Am i the only 1 whose seeing this. Maybe im getting too picky....is it me?

Depth is not about number of classes. It is about number of interesting choices.

Every rants on D3 because there is no stat allocation. I found it has MORE combat depth than any MMO i have played because there are so many variations of skill combination that is viable with reasonable trade-off.

Just today, i am discussing (on other forums), about this hybrid archon build of D3 wiz, and in the thread, there are at least 3 or 4 different build variations with pros and cons. I came home and tried one out. How often do i do that when i play WOW or other MMOs at the end game .. not very often. How often do i do that in D3 ... almost every few weeks since the game was released.

And the point? This game has ONLY 5 classes. So depth is not about the number of classes. At least to me.