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  pedrostrik

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Posts: 400

1/09/13 12:11:28 PM#41

people who got caught botting GOT NO REFUND AT ALL! 

Refunds was only for people who bought gems on their store and exploit that season mats, so nothing special about that, and they didn't got their account back, so they lost all those hours invested on the game.

  cippalippa

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1/09/13 12:11:34 PM#42

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

1/09/13 12:15:14 PM#43
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  cippalippa

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1/09/13 12:18:43 PM#44
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2445

1/09/13 12:29:28 PM#45
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

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  Gaia_Hunter

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1/09/13 12:32:35 PM#46
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

He has the Anet symbol by its name.

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  killion81

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Joined: 8/31/06
Posts: 888

1/09/13 1:29:57 PM#47
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2445

1/09/13 1:39:24 PM#48
Originally posted by killion81
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Willful_ignorance

They gave refunds to the people who bought the game from A.Net only. Anyone who bought through a 3rd party got nothing. From reddit.

 

"Just a little point. Anet didnt refund everyone with this , they only refunded people who bought the gems from them or bought the game direct from them. So yes if you bought the game from a 3rd party vendor (ie game shop etc) you are just plain flat out of luck. Nice to be discriminated against because of that :P Only reason people got refunds is probably so they couldnt do chargebacks against the payments. Its nothing about anything like admission they was wrong or anything, its about that chargebacks would cause them work etc as they would have to respond to the banks unlike the fact that they dont respond to their customers (except for automated standard messages).

Edited for spelling"

 

 

 

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  KingJiggly

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Joined: 8/03/11
Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

1/09/13 2:43:22 PM#49
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by cippalippa

The refunds are for the snowflake exploit, not botters.

 

so actually:

if you get cuaght for the exploit and banned, then you can get refund. Should you buy the game again, then you are left with a lot less than you had prior to the ban.

if you werent banned cause you didnt cheat, then you are now far ahead of those that did.

if you cheated and werent banned, then you simply werent caught this time. No different than a police car picking one out of 5 speeders in the road, the others made it out of luck, however should be careful in the future.

oh sorry, i was later adding a picture you might have missed in youre quotes

and can u tell me if an exploiter was also a botter or not?

Picture says nothing, just a guy exploiting. He may have got caught, idk. If he did, he has a refund. 

It is a botter when they are hacking into the game to accomplish goals, often times done without the user having to be present. If he is talking, he is just an exploiter. What is your point?

it is not "a guy" it is an ANet empolyee

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

He has the Anet symbol by its name.

Still confused as to what your point is... He may ge an employee, that doesnt mean hebcontrols what is considered an exploit :P

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  Skooma2

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Posts: 680

1/09/13 2:57:11 PM#50
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by cippalippa

So ...

IF

you cheated willingly

AND 

used your money for it

THEN

you are gonna have your money back ???

 

I don't think it is a great policy to dissuade from cheating, because it is an actual endorsment of cheating/exploiting:

- if i cheat and i can make away with that ->  i have profit

- if i cheat and i got caught i will be refunded -> i have no loss

- if i don't cheat at all -> my profit will be the lower possible

 

Nice to see game theory is not applied  to gaming.

ANet getting better and better :O -> vomit

Not really - your characters stop existing so you lost time, assuming this is true.

Also I made a killing selling mithril and snowflakes to the cheaters.

Ask botters how much they care that they've lost the characters they levelled in 3 days when after the ban they've got all the money back they had begfore starting, so they can start anew

Name one game that doesn't have bots. You can't because there isn't one.

 

People will always figure a way around any security if they want to bot.

TSW does not have bots.  There is no point to them in TSW.  There are no resource nodes to exploit.  To get cash and gear you have to play and complete missions or actively craft your own gear.  Except for high-end Elite and NIghtmare dungeons, you can manufacture any gear you may need.  Now that I think of it, there are also no gold farmers (that I have seen) and I have heard no one complain of bots.  IN TSW, there is simply nothing for bots to do.

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  rojoArcueid

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1/09/13 2:57:12 PM#51
Originally posted by greenreen

Well, there goes my thought that they were issuing bans in part to retaliate for not using the cash shop.

this only happens inside your head. Reality is different.

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  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

1/09/13 3:03:26 PM#52
Originally posted by Skooma2
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by cippalippa

So ...

IF

you cheated willingly

AND 

used your money for it

THEN

you are gonna have your money back ???

 

I don't think it is a great policy to dissuade from cheating, because it is an actual endorsment of cheating/exploiting:

- if i cheat and i can make away with that ->  i have profit

- if i cheat and i got caught i will be refunded -> i have no loss

- if i don't cheat at all -> my profit will be the lower possible

 

Nice to see game theory is not applied  to gaming.

ANet getting better and better :O -> vomit

Not really - your characters stop existing so you lost time, assuming this is true.

Also I made a killing selling mithril and snowflakes to the cheaters.

Ask botters how much they care that they've lost the characters they levelled in 3 days when after the ban they've got all the money back they had begfore starting, so they can start anew

Name one game that doesn't have bots. You can't because there isn't one.

 

People will always figure a way around any security if they want to bot.

TSW does not have bots.  There is no point to them in TSW.  There are no resource nodes to exploit.  To get cash and gear you have to play and complete missions or actively craft your own gear.  Except for high-end Elite and NIghtmare dungeons, you can manufacture any gear you may need.  Now that I think of it, there are also no gold farmers (that I have seen) and I have heard no one complain of bots.  IN TSW, there is simply nothing for bots to do.

And maybe becuase it isnt worth it as well :P not as many play tsw as say gw2, runescape and wow.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

1/09/13 3:10:15 PM#53
Originally posted by cheyane
That was jolly decent of them.

those exploiters can take their money and go screw games ran by careless companies instead

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  Skooma2

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Joined: 3/05/08
Posts: 680

1/09/13 3:11:08 PM#54
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Skooma2
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by cippalippa
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by cippalippa

So ...

IF

you cheated willingly

AND 

used your money for it

THEN

you are gonna have your money back ???

 

I don't think it is a great policy to dissuade from cheating, because it is an actual endorsment of cheating/exploiting:

- if i cheat and i can make away with that ->  i have profit

- if i cheat and i got caught i will be refunded -> i have no loss

- if i don't cheat at all -> my profit will be the lower possible

 

Nice to see game theory is not applied  to gaming.

ANet getting better and better :O -> vomit

Not really - your characters stop existing so you lost time, assuming this is true.

Also I made a killing selling mithril and snowflakes to the cheaters.

Ask botters how much they care that they've lost the characters they levelled in 3 days when after the ban they've got all the money back they had begfore starting, so they can start anew

Name one game that doesn't have bots. You can't because there isn't one.

 

People will always figure a way around any security if they want to bot.

TSW does not have bots.  There is no point to them in TSW.  There are no resource nodes to exploit.  To get cash and gear you have to play and complete missions or actively craft your own gear.  Except for high-end Elite and NIghtmare dungeons, you can manufacture any gear you may need.  Now that I think of it, there are also no gold farmers (that I have seen) and I have heard no one complain of bots.  IN TSW, there is simply nothing for bots to do.

And maybe becuase it isnt worth it as well :P not as many play tsw as say gw2, runescape and wow.

It's not a matter of  the quantity of people playing TSW.  There is simply nothing for a bot to do.  And, BTW, since the conversion to a B2P option, the game is swarming with new players.  Not as many as GW2 and WoW, of course, but significantly more people than there were. 

Hedonismbot: Your latest performance was as delectable as dipping my bottom over and over into a bath of the silkiest oils and creams.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2560

1/09/13 3:20:35 PM#55
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by botrytis

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

He has the Anet symbol by its name.

Still confused as to what your point is... He may ge an employee, that doesnt mean hebcontrols what is considered an exploit :P

I just answered the question how does one know if he is an Anet employee or not.

Nothing more, nothing else.

 

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  KingJiggly

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Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

1/09/13 4:45:42 PM#56
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by botrytis

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

He has the Anet symbol by its name.

Still confused as to what your point is... He may ge an employee, that doesnt mean hebcontrols what is considered an exploit :P

I just answered the question how does one know if he is an Anet employee or not.

Nothing more, nothing else.

 

Oh, that wasn't @ you, that was at OP. sorry

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2560

1/09/13 4:55:14 PM#57
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by botrytis

How do you know he was an A.Net employee? In GW1, there whispers ahd chats were in a different color so you knew they were from A.Net.  It does not look like he ia an A.Net employee - if he did say than, then he might be lying to you.

He has the Anet symbol by its name.

Still confused as to what your point is... He may ge an employee, that doesnt mean hebcontrols what is considered an exploit :P

I just answered the question how does one know if he is an Anet employee or not.

Nothing more, nothing else.

 

Oh, that wasn't @ you, that was at OP. sorry

NP. :)

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

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