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  Malcanis

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"A very special kind of stupidity"

1/09/13 6:44:47 AM#21
Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by Lonzo
They should concentrate on EVE or EVE-Next

 Could not agree more the fact that they using my subs to make this pile of crap is what annoyes me.

 

I hear that if just one more person whines about Dust being a console game, CCP will go back in time and rework it as a PC project.

 

You know what you have to do, NightBandit. You can save us all.

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
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EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :)

1/09/13 6:45:55 AM#22
Originally posted by Kuinn
I would play this on PC for sure. I own PS3 but I dont play games with it much, the pad is just... Gahh... Maybe when the game gets proper mouse+kb support I will buy a set fpr PS3 for this game.

I'm not a fan of the controller so I play DUST 514 with keyboard and mouse exclusively. What is it that you don't care for or feel is improper about the keyboard and mouse controls?

filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community.

Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix?

filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding.

  Yalexy

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1/09/13 6:45:58 AM#23


Originally posted by Kuinn
I would play this on PC for sure. I own PS3 but I dont play games with it much, the pad is just... Gahh... Maybe when the game gets proper mouse+kb support I will buy a set fpr PS3 for this game.

The game has native keyboard and mouse support for month allready. Just plug in your USB-keyboard and mouse and shoot.

  hfztt

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 406

1/09/13 7:51:23 AM#24

Its kinda funny. A lot of times I was considering who would play this game. Then I saw my two sons of 7 and 10 years running around in Planetside 2 headshooting old farts like me...

A free to play FPS on the PS3 might just be the crazy thing that gets the most unlikely crowd playing the hell out of it.

But they sure as hell wont be your avarage EvE players, and I guess that was JUST what CCP was aiming for...

  tv2zulu

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1/09/13 8:15:59 AM#25
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Jorl
They've should have made this for PC. Though marketing wise, I can see why they did so.

And why is that?  Because I can see no upside to making it a PS3 exclusive, especially this late in the console lifecycle.

Ask MS how fond they are of allowing F2P online games, with regular updates, on their P2P Xbox-Live platform.

  Jorl

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Open your eyes, look within. Are you satisfied with the life you're living?

1/09/13 10:25:26 AM#26
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Jorl
They've should have made this for PC. Though marketing wise, I can see why they did so.

And why is that?  Because I can see no upside to making it a PS3 exclusive, especially this late in the console lifecycle.

That was my point, Consoles are a lot popular than PCs when it comes to gaming, unfortunetly so we're seeing a lot of good games which would be better played on a PC but cheaper to slap onto a console, and they get bigger profits for it.

  scritty

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1/09/13 12:09:57 PM#27

I can't even fathom the purpose of two such wildly different genres interactimg across 2 completely different platforms.

What next -  - WiiU Mario Karts interacts with Dwarf Fortress?

Why? I mean just Why? Is there any crossover in players. Am I paying my subs so that YET ANOTHER FPS gets developed?

How many more FPS's does this world need? Aren't there 35,000 of them released every year already?

I love EvE, been quad boxing it for the last 9 years without a single month off - but it's the antithesis of FPS - the last FPS I played was Quake 2 and I have zero interest in ever playing one again.

@ Jorl you need to qualify that with consoles are more popular than PC's for TWITCH gaming. Overall PC sales are not far behind PS3 or Xbox if you include online sales for all platforms (and now in 2013 you really should include online sales...why wouldn't you?) The other downside is (and I say this as someone who owns a PS3 and a 360) these consoles are now very very old and several generations behind the PC in terms of ability. Made for PC games [none ports] look so much better, play so much more smoothly and so much more content than these consoles whose technology is almost 8 years old..Man in tech terms that's ANCIENT..and it shows.

  ObiClownobi

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Joined: 12/02/12
Posts: 189

1/09/13 12:42:06 PM#28

EvE players, CCP don't want you playing, they want you flying Internet spaceships, bombing the FPSers. They want 2 groups of gamers, 2 streams of income.

Glad to see some here can understand that.


"It's a sandbox, if you are not willing to create a castle then all you have is sand" - jtcgs

  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1925

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/09/13 12:45:03 PM#29
Originally posted by ObiClownobi

EvE players, CCP don't want you playing, they want you flying Internet spaceships, bombing the FPSers. They want 2 groups of gamers, 2 streams of income.

Glad to see some here can understand that.

Exactly.  Which is why the first closed beta invites for DUST went to the long time EVE subscribers.......

El Psy Congroo

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/09/13 12:48:23 PM#30
Originally posted by scritty

I can't even fathom the purpose of two such wildly different genres interactimg across 2 completely different platforms.

What next -  - WiiU Mario Karts interacts with Dwarf Fortress?

Why? I mean just Why? Is there any crossover in players. Am I paying my subs so that YET ANOTHER FPS gets developed?

How many more FPS's does this world need? Aren't there 35,000 of them released every year already?

I love EvE, been quad boxing it for the last 9 years without a single month off - but it's the antithesis of FPS - the last FPS I played was Quake 2 and I have zero interest in ever playing one again.

@ Jorl you need to qualify that with consoles are more popular than PC's for TWITCH gaming. Overall PC sales are not far behind PS3 or Xbox if you include online sales for all platforms (and now in 2013 you really should include online sales...why wouldn't you?) The other downside is (and I say this as someone who owns a PS3 and a 360) these consoles are now very very old and several generations behind the PC in terms of ability. Made for PC games [none ports] look so much better, play so much more smoothly and so much more content than these consoles whose technology is almost 8 years old..Man in tech terms that's ANCIENT..and it shows.

Yeah, I too am wondering why they didn't just make several kilometer long spaceships interacting on planet surfaces instead.  What's the point of having troops on planets interacting with the pilots above?  I mean besides having an impact on control of the planets and systems.  Besides giving both the EVE players and the DUST ground forces something to strive for above k/d.

 

It really sucks that these huge planetary bodies are being used in an impactful way rather than just scenery.

El Psy Congroo

  ObiClownobi

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Joined: 12/02/12
Posts: 189

1/09/13 1:17:23 PM#31
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by ObiClownobi

EvE players, CCP don't want you playing, they want you flying Internet spaceships, bombing the FPSers. They want 2 groups of gamers, 2 streams of income.

Glad to see some here can understand that.

Exactly.  Which is why the first closed beta invites for DUST went to the long time EVE subscribers.......

There is no known IP and the game will interact with the EvE universe, makes sense for the beta rather than try to market the game to a target that hasn't heard of it. The end target for the game is not EvE players.


"It's a sandbox, if you are not willing to create a castle then all you have is sand" - jtcgs

  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 6709

Logic be damned!

1/09/13 1:22:17 PM#32

As long as they forbid Dust'ers from playing Gallente....

 

MMO History:
UO, SWG, WoW, E&B, EQ2, EVE, FFXI, GW2, LOTRO, RIFT, WAR
Beta/Trial: EVERYTHING else
Looking To: FFXIV, ESO, AA, BLACK DESERT

  ObiClownobi

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Posts: 189

1/09/13 1:23:23 PM#33
Originally posted by BadSpock

As long as they forbid Dust'ers from playing Gallente....

 

It's not just us who drone on.


"It's a sandbox, if you are not willing to create a castle then all you have is sand" - jtcgs

  BadSpock

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Posts: 6709

Logic be damned!

1/09/13 1:27:03 PM#34
Originally posted by ObiClownobi
Originally posted by BadSpock

As long as they forbid Dust'ers from playing Gallente....

 

It's not just us who drone on.

*checks skill queue on Gallente FW toon*

MMO History:
UO, SWG, WoW, E&B, EQ2, EVE, FFXI, GW2, LOTRO, RIFT, WAR
Beta/Trial: EVERYTHING else
Looking To: FFXIV, ESO, AA, BLACK DESERT

  Rilman

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Joined: 8/18/12
Posts: 37

1/09/13 1:30:23 PM#35

Putting it on PS3 was such a fail idea.....

 

 

  Scottgun

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Posts: 325

1/09/13 1:45:35 PM#36
Originally posted by Rilman

Putting it on PS3 was such a fail idea.....

 

 

I don't see why. CCP clearly wanted to break into the console market, and chosing the PS3 means it doesn't have to compete with Halo.

How not to sell me on a game: "And most people that make it past the tutorial seem to appreciate [x game's] uniqueness, even if they don't find it fun."

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
Posts: 8653

EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :)

1/09/13 3:01:31 PM#37
Originally posted by ObiClownobi
Originally posted by BadSpock

As long as they forbid Dust'ers from playing Gallente....

It's not just us who drone on.

i c wot u did thar...

 

filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community.

Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix?

filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding.

  illutian

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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall." - Confucius

1/13/13 6:09:17 AM#38

For starters...

Dust 514 was suppose to be on all consoles ('cept Wii, but no one cares about that thing). However, Microsoft apparently had a fuss over some of the stuff that Dust would need to be able to do for proper intergration with EVE. So, Sony got the exclusive.

Secondly, I can guarantee that Dust will be come to the PC. Hilmar specifically stated that making Dust for the PC "was not out of the question", further going on to say that Dust fully supports the PS3's KB&M, followed by "I wonder why that is. (chuckle)". [ya, paraphrased the quotes, sorry]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/07/gdc-2012-ccp-talks-dust-eve-and-world-of-darkness/

"As the devs note, mouse and keyboard controls are already supported in the PS3 version of the title. "I wonder why we did that," Hilmar joked during the interview."

"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall." - Confucius

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