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11/01/12 3:02:12 PM#61
I think involving the game community from the start is a fantastic way for developers to gauge the overall interest in their efforts. It's inspiring and exciting to see something you are working so hard towards is appreciated by the community with more than just words.
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11/09/12 5:29:14 PM#62
Gamasutra: Star Citizen, crowdfunding and new hope for the mid-tier
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11/14/12 8:28:10 PM#63
This thread has a ton of really interesting infographics/data and articles. Thanks to everyone who posted.
As to the OP... The idea of private funding isn't new - but the internet is making it easier. The concept of asking for donations, or sponsorship, isn't most certainly not a recent development. So the idea - and the type of sponsorship - is totally okay to me. I think most of the problems that arise come from the advent of technology - it's just so much easier to commit fraud when paired with the anonymity of the internet. And while fraud isn't new (donating to charity doesn't guarantee your money is actually used for charitable purposes, after all), it's just that much more obvious when it happens online. |
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11/17/12 11:51:45 AM#64
I really like that crowd funding is something that is becoming more and more of a reality. It allows like you said to give directly to the people creating the games that you find interesting. On top of that depending on what they are doing in their crowd funding you can get a little something for your investment. The inovation though is the main that attracts me to things like crowd funding. Most investers won't pay for a game that they find difficult to anticipate a return on their investment. Games that come with a fanbase such as a 2nd 3rd or 4th installment on an origonal successful idea or games based off popular culture like starwars will be funded because its easier to guess at how much the game will make. Investers are only interested in making their money back which isn't bad but it means they won't take risks on innovative ideas that don't have a massive fan base that could end up being a cash sinkhole. I feel that not just crowd funding but the ability to release your game without having to go threw a publisher to create and distribute the game via retailers has really unleashed a new generation of gaming. New ideas, some good some bad are flooding the market and we're seeing that we have more options than the 2nd 3rd 4th, 5th remake of games where ultimitly we may end up with final fantasy XXVIII That's not to say that it is perfect. In some cases I can see your donation going into a game that ultimitly falls short of its goals. Cases like Kickstarter you can get your money back if they don't meet their goals but that's not always going to be the case. In the end though it was your choice to invest in the game. |
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11/21/12 11:43:15 AM#65
I truly believe that we'll see the next great game to come from crowd funded gaming. Hell, Minecraft is more or less a success story from crowd funding, it just didn't come from a place like Kickstarter. With Kickstarter, you'll see the ability for small groups of programmers to be able to come together and create their games while staying true to their original vision of their game. Publishing the game is even becoming easier where digital downloads are becoming more of the norm. If the game is good, word of mouth with also carry the day for advertisement (again, look at minecraft). It's going to be a very interesting time for gaming once these early crowd funded games start to be released. |
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11/21/12 11:51:26 AM#66
I just think MMOs are too costly to make for crowd funding to be viable, not to mention about as risky as you can possibly get.
Its great for certain genres of gaming though |
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11/24/12 5:39:43 AM#67
gamesindustry.biz: Kickstarter: Funding revolution or digital panhandling? Topics Considered: (1) LOW QUALITY PITCH (aka living off past-glories, household name status) Implications:
(2) Should established games-makers use Kickstarter platform, and does this have a negative impact on indies eg "kickstarter fatigue"? Mostly this is fallacious:
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11/28/12 6:20:35 PM#68
RPS: The Kickstarter Successes: Where Are They Now?
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11/28/12 6:32:27 PM#69
Thought the money is withheld untill the time has elapsed, and goal reached? that kinda makes perfect sense to do that.. |
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Loktofeit
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11/28/12 8:01:42 PM#70
Originally posted by CariusD The word "investor" doesn't seem to appear anywhere on the Kickstarter site. Are you sure about that? filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
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11/30/12 3:46:00 PM#71
Six most important lessons from Kickstarter so far
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12/01/12 7:39:56 AM#72
Gamasutra: From Torment to Eternity: Chris Avellone on RPGs
The full article is worth reading. |
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12/04/12 4:50:59 PM#73
I recommend Indie-Go-Go because you get to keep your earnings whether you reach the goal or not. That's pretty sweet. I can design a kick-ass presentation package complete with business plan, executive summary and private placement memorandum if you really want to juice your crowdfunding potential. DM me for more info on crowdfunding options. I would be excited to help promote ambitious up-and-coming devs out there! |
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12/04/12 4:56:26 PM#74
Gamasutra: Why Kickstarter's not going to change its all-or-nothing policy anytime soon
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12/09/12 6:43:53 AM#75
Considering I have been bitching on this site for almost ten years that I would like to see a shadowrun MMO. Once I learned about there being one in the works how could I NOT put my money were my mouth was? I pledged I think 200$ and I really have no idea what that will give me when and if that game gets launched. For me it was just a question on how much I was willing to part with, knowing that there is a good chance I will never see the money again. I did not buy the game, even though I assume that for that money I will at least get a copy, what I did buy though was a bit of hope that this thing will actually be real! For ease of mind I consider the money gone, treating it like a lottery ticket that have the possibility to pay out HUGE is probably a recipe for dissapointment. It was more on the line of 'Now I have talked the talk, can I walk the walk?' I just had to! And I would do it again if something as close to my heart showed up on kickstarter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts. |
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12/09/12 10:59:04 PM#76
Croud funding seems to be an excellent option for companies and players alike. That being said, sometimes publishers can be of better assistance. It usually depends on the type of game.
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12/13/12 4:36:31 AM#77
The Escapist: Code Hero Kickstarter Goes Bad GiantBomb: Code Hero Dev Takes the Money and Runs
- Sounds more like it's hit trouble than already fled to the caymans; but still: Shady. Popcorn on special offer today... |
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1/09/13 10:14:56 AM#78
Massively: 2012: The year of the MMO Kickstarter
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Loktofeit
Elite Member
Joined: 1/13/10
EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
1/09/13 10:34:59 AM#79
Originally posted by DarthRichardson "earnings" he says.
filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
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outfctrl
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/16/03
American by Birth |
1/14/13 9:18:19 AM#80
This is what scares me about Kickstarters: Fully Funded Kickstarter Game Goes Belly Up |