Trending Games | The Crew | Neverwinter | Lichdom: Battlemage | ArcheAge

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,836,771 Users Online:0
Games:732  Posts:6,220,894
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

General Gaming  » Nvidia's New 'Console'

4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search
78 posts found
  negativf4kk

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 346

1/07/13 6:38:46 PM#21
Cloud gaming - everything is possible!!!!

<a href="http://www.danasoft.com"><img src="http://www.danasoft.com/sig/499105419258.jpg" border="0"></a><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;"><p>Sign by Danasoft - <a href="http://www.danasoft.com">For Backgrounds and Layouts</a></p></div>

  Aethaeryn

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/14/10
Posts: 1881

1/07/13 6:40:22 PM#22
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by AzurePrower
Looks like some one is trying to contend with Wii U.



I don't think anyone is struggling to contend with the Wii U, aside from the people who bought one.

 

Hey my wife loves ours. .and if I want her love. . she needed to play the new Mario despite the cost.!  I have to let her kick my arse at Nintendo Land stuff as well.  But then I can spend what I want on my PC. . . a small price to play. . plus I Netflix better on the Wii.

 

ehehm. .  

 

It seems like an android tablet. . . with most of the same connections.  You can also hook a wireless controller up to your android tablet.  The streaming games from the PC is the only part that sets it apart but if I am close enough to stream through wireless. . assuming that is how it works. . then I would just play on my PC. . plus most games I play require a keyboard.

 

 

Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

  User Deleted
1/07/13 6:40:39 PM#23
Originally posted by Khrymson

 

A 5" screen ~ no thanks!   I'll continue playing games on my highly over-powered PC with a 46" screen...lol

 

To be fair, I don't think they're aiming this towards someone sitting at home with their gaming computer.

I can't exactly pick up my oversized tower and 46" TV to go with me on a business trip and good gaming laptops are insanely expensive. I'd consider something like this if it were priced right.

  rojoArcueid

Elite Member

Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 5369

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

1/07/13 6:43:58 PM#24
Ouya just got a new contender. It looks nice but i cant see myself streaming the latest steam multiplayer AAA games on this small screen. And to me it would be useless to buy it just for low end games that i dont play anymore, but still looks pretty nice.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  lizardbones

Elite Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10550

I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  1/07/13 6:54:56 PM#25


Originally posted by TheFirst109

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by AzurePrower Looks like some one is trying to contend with Wii U.
I don't think anyone is struggling to contend with the Wii U, aside from the people who bought one.  
I think someone needs some friends then lol...Nintendoland is the most fun I've had in a video game in a long time, but I have people over constantly so I guess if you don't have that the console loses some of its appeal.



Well, to be honest I have no idea what the user experience is like. It just looks weird. We have a Wii, and I think Nintendo knows their audience better than the other console makers, but the Wii U still just looks weird to me. :-)

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  AticusWelles

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/30/12
Posts: 151

1/07/13 7:27:29 PM#26
I wouldn't want to use this to play an mmo but a single player game, while soaking up the sun sitting next to my pond would be fantastic. Already got a sling box for watching live TV next to the pond, only thing missing is top notch PC gaming.
  StonesDK

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1832

1/07/13 7:57:15 PM#27
I can see myself using this if i have to take a dump in the middle of a raid. I'm tired of dragging my desktop out there every time. It's inconvenient and heavy
  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13305

1/07/13 8:10:07 PM#28
Originally posted by BelegStrongbow

Looks like they are competing with Razer  

 

http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona

 

http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

 

EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.

Nvidia Shield will probably get you about double the performance of either of those, and for half the price tag.

It's not that Nvidia Shield is going to be dirt cheap or a great value.  It's that Razer likes to charge super high-end price tags for not very good internal hardware in a slick form factor.  Remember the $2800 Razer Blade "gaming laptop" that could barely outperform integrated graphics?

  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13305

1/07/13 8:17:57 PM#29
Originally posted by tkoreaper
Don't get this trash and don't be fooled. You can do this with most tablet devices already. Get yourself a Nexus 10 and a PS2 controller and you're all set... That is, if you need something like this. The Nexus 10 packs more power and a higher resolution for an extremely resonable price.

You're wildly wrong.  Both the Google Nexus 10 and Nvidia Tegra 4 use identical Cortex A15 cores.  But the Nexus 10 has two of them, while the Tegra 4 has four of them.

On the GPU side, the Google Nexus 10 uses ARM Mali T604 graphics.  The Tegra 4 graphics probably offer several times the performance of that, as that's ARM's bottom of the line in their new generation.  Oh, and that's only several times the performance in programs that both can run.  Tegra 4 supports DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.0.  While I didn't find anywhere that Nvidia explicitly stated the feature level of DirectX, since they support the full OpenGL 4, it's probably the full DirectX 11.  Meanwhile, ARM Mali graphics don't support anything past DirectX 11 feature level 9_3 (basically DirectX 9.0c) and OpenGL ES 3.0.

  DukeDu

Novice Member

Joined: 2/25/09
Posts: 71

1/07/13 8:18:34 PM#30
I think this is great to play all those joystick games on steam on the bed. Now android games? LOL. Emulators maybe.
  GrayGhost79

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

1/07/13 8:22:10 PM#31
Originally posted by BelegStrongbow

Looks like they are competing with Razer  

 

http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona

 

http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

 

EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.

Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 

Software like Kainy and Companies like Onlive and Gaikai have opened a pandora's boxs of sorts and the fruits of that are starting to roll out. Expect the bigger and better streaming gaming devices towards the end of the year. 

This is just the tip of the iceberg :) Much more is coming your way lol. 

 

Also, wait until you see some of the new consoles. Touchscreen Tablets have made a pretty big impact there. The limitations many controllers had in comparison to PC Mouse and Keyboard is changing. 

Imagine a 20 Button controller that fits in your hands comfortably and easily with analog sticks and triggers to boot :) 

  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13305

1/07/13 8:42:27 PM#32
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BelegStrongbow

Looks like they are competing with Razer  

 

http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona

 

http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

 

EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.

Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 

And how exactly do they propose to make a higher end "console" for streaming games over the Internet when the crippling factors are latency and bandwidth, neither of which depend on the console?

I don't know how Project Shield will compare to what we'll see in the next several months, but in raw performance for rendering games locally, it's massively ahead of anything else on the market today.  And that's a big deal.

Speaking of other things coming in the next several months, AMD has again confirmed that there will be Temash quad cores (contrary to rumors that it would be dual-core only), and now also that Temash is coming in the first half of this year.  Rumors say AMD will launch it at CeBIT in March.

  KhinRunite

Novice Member

Joined: 11/05/10
Posts: 897

1/07/13 8:57:17 PM#33

I'm positive towards this project overall. I think it has a great concept. Only a couple of things I don't prefer:

1.) The streaming tech is only available when the desktop uses a nVidia card. This sucks as I just bought my HD6870 less than a year ago. Also I'm not sure if the Steambox will sport a nVidia card. I was also anticipating that piece of tech.

2.) No problem with the clamshell design, but it seems to flip to up to 90 degrees only. I'm not comfortable with that viewing angle, considering the way I hold my controller. I wish it flips up to 180.

  Ridelynn

Elite Member

Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 3357

1/07/13 9:01:24 PM#34

We got a Wii U for our 5 year old for Christmas. I have to say that I'm moderately impressed with the small screen on the controller: Yes, it's a little bit small, but honestly, with it connected to the controller, I wouldn't want it to be any larger.

The main draw of the Wii U is that the display on the controller can act independantly from the TV Screen - letting you do multiplayer without the split screen, or display secondary information (maps, special abilities, etc) on the touch screen, or use the touch screen as an augmented reality device in conjunction with the TV screen.

You won't get any of that with PC streaming. And for Android gaming it will be a small screen - a 7" tablet has more real estate (and could potentially have similar processing capability, and the ability to use a controller via Bluetooth). So yeah, I don't see this as really taking off.

The Wii U also uses a dedicated WiFi-N channel for feeding the audio/visuals to the controller, and it is not optimized for distance, but for throughput - it barely will work a room away. If the connection is unstable, the game will pause and it will warn you.

Apple does have Airplay that can mirror A/V over a home network (and has let iOS gamers play on a TV for a while now with an AppleTV 2+ or Airport Express) - it can support full HD, but it's proprietary, and relies on Intel QuickSync on the PC (and probably something proprietary but similar on their ARM products). If the connection is unstable, or bandwidth-starved (as WiFi, especially at HD streaming, can get), then you just get drop outs and lag/pauses - which sucks for gaming terribly.

So, trying to do this over a typical home network... if they are using proprietary nVidia compression (much like Apple uses QuickSync - and based on the requirement of an nVidia card I am guessing they are GPU accelerating this on the computer end) - yeah, you could probably make it work over a typical strong WiFi G connection, but a weak G or any B connection would still be out of the question for trying to stream 720p.

  GrayGhost79

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

1/07/13 9:16:48 PM#35
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BelegStrongbow

Looks like they are competing with Razer  

 

http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona

 

http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

 

EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.

Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 

And how exactly do they propose to make a higher end "console" for streaming games over the Internet when the crippling factors are latency and bandwidth, neither of which depend on the console?

I don't know how Project Shield will compare to what we'll see in the next several months, but in raw performance for rendering games locally, it's massively ahead of anything else on the market today.  And that's a big deal.

Speaking of other things coming in the next several months, AMD has again confirmed that there will be Temash quad cores (contrary to rumors that it would be dual-core only), and now also that Temash is coming in the first half of this year.  Rumors say AMD will launch it at CeBIT in March.

I know, I know, you don't want to see streaming gaming take hold. Problem is, it's coming wether you want it to or not lol. 

In any case higher end systems includes things like better build quality, larger screens, etc. 

 

And as far as the Shield being the best on the market right now as far as raw performance and processing power)... lol it's going to be competing with things like the Fiona. Sure, fiona and others aren't available yet, but neither is Shield. 

It's low end junk lol. It's neat, but it's more of a novelty thing you could give to your 6 year old. 

Fiona's i7 > Shields Tegra 4 lol...

 

 

 

  lizardbones

Elite Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10550

I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  1/07/13 9:24:50 PM#36


Originally posted by Ridelynn
We got a Wii U for our 5 year old for Christmas. I have to say that I'm moderately impressed with the small screen on the controller: Yes, it's a little bit small, but honestly, with it connected to the controller, I wouldn't want it to be any larger.

The main draw of the Wii U is that the display on the controller can act independantly from the TV Screen - letting you do multiplayer without the split screen, or display secondary information (maps, special abilities, etc) on the touch screen, or use the touch screen as an augmented reality device in conjunction with the TV screen.

You won't get any of that with PC streaming. And for Android gaming it will be a small screen - a 7" tablet has more real estate (and could potentially have similar processing capability, and the ability to use a controller via Bluetooth). So yeah, I don't see this as really taking off.

The Wii U also uses a dedicated WiFi-N channel for feeding the audio/visuals to the controller, and it is not optimized for distance, but for throughput - it barely will work a room away. If the connection is unstable, the game will pause and it will warn you.

Apple does have Airplay that can mirror A/V over a home network (and has let iOS gamers play on a TV for a while now with an AppleTV 2+ or Airport Express) - it can support full HD, but it's proprietary, and relies on Intel QuickSync on the PC (and probably something proprietary but similar on their ARM products). If the connection is unstable, or bandwidth-starved (as WiFi, especially at HD streaming, can get), then you just get drop outs and lag/pauses - which sucks for gaming terribly.

So, trying to do this over a typical home network... if they are using proprietary nVidia compression (much like Apple uses QuickSync - and based on the requirement of an nVidia card I am guessing they are GPU accelerating this on the computer end) - yeah, you could probably make it work over a typical strong WiFi G connection, but a weak G or any B connection would still be out of the question for trying to stream 720p.




You can do streaming of a desktop session including gaming right now with modest hardware requirements. It's not really a super big deal. I think the major issues are the same issues that tablet/phone gaming has in general, which is a small screen and the touch controls don't translate well for regular PC gaming.

I think what Nvidia is adding is ease of installation and use, especially if it can be installed through Steam. It may even stream specific applications with launcher icons on the Android device rather than the whole desktop, which would be more convenient.

It's a really niche market though. Someone who wants to game, but who wants to do it in a room that isn't the computer room. I could see myself doing this, but I don't know that I'd buy a $250 device to do it with.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  lizardbones

Elite Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10550

I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  1/07/13 9:31:19 PM#37


Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by BelegStrongbow Looks like they are competing with Razer     http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona   http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade   EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.
Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 
And how exactly do they propose to make a higher end "console" for streaming games over the Internet when the crippling factors are latency and bandwidth, neither of which depend on the console? I don't know how Project Shield will compare to what we'll see in the next several months, but in raw performance for rendering games locally, it's massively ahead of anything else on the market today.  And that's a big deal. Speaking of other things coming in the next several months, AMD has again confirmed that there will be Temash quad cores (contrary to rumors that it would be dual-core only), and now also that Temash is coming in the first half of this year.  Rumors say AMD will launch it at CeBIT in March.
I know, I know, you don't want to see streaming gaming take hold. Problem is, it's coming wether you want it to or not lol. 

In any case higher end systems includes things like better build quality, larger screens, etc. 

 

And as far as the Shield being the best on the market right now as far as raw performance and processing power)... lol it's going to be competing with things like the Fiona. Sure, fiona and others aren't available yet, but neither is Shield. 

It's low end junk lol. It's neat, but it's more of a novelty thing you could give to your 6 year old. 

Fiona's i7 > Shields Tegra 4 lol...

 




Fiona is a PC tablet, not an Android tablet. It's going to cost a lot more. How much more? How much does an i7 gaming rig cost right now? Now scale all the hardware down into a tablet, and add a multi-touch screen. It only needs to be slightly better than 720p, but still, it's a multi-touch screen built into the device. That much more.

It's two different markets. One is for the millions of people who bought a Nintendo handheld (Shield), and the other is for people who have more money than they really know what to do with (Fiona).

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13305

1/07/13 9:38:57 PM#38
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by BelegStrongbow

Looks like they are competing with Razer  

 

http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona

 

http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

 

EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.

Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 

And how exactly do they propose to make a higher end "console" for streaming games over the Internet when the crippling factors are latency and bandwidth, neither of which depend on the console?

I don't know how Project Shield will compare to what we'll see in the next several months, but in raw performance for rendering games locally, it's massively ahead of anything else on the market today.  And that's a big deal.

Speaking of other things coming in the next several months, AMD has again confirmed that there will be Temash quad cores (contrary to rumors that it would be dual-core only), and now also that Temash is coming in the first half of this year.  Rumors say AMD will launch it at CeBIT in March.

I know, I know, you don't want to see streaming gaming take hold. Problem is, it's coming wether you want it to or not lol. 

In any case higher end systems includes things like better build quality, larger screens, etc. 

 

And as far as the Shield being the best on the market right now as far as raw performance and processing power)... lol it's going to be competing with things like the Fiona. Sure, fiona and others aren't available yet, but neither is Shield. 

It's low end junk lol. It's neat, but it's more of a novelty thing you could give to your 6 year old. 

Fiona's i7 > Shields Tegra 4 lol...

I was thinking for some reason that Fiona was going to be a Tegra 3.  I'm not sure what I had in mind, but that's apparently wrong

Before you praise the performance of a Core i7 too much, stop to consider what Intel means by Core i7.  Not fastest processor, period.  Rather, either top end platform (Bloomfield, Gulftown, Sandy Bridge-E), which Fiona definitely won't get, or fastest in a given TDP.  Right now, you can get a Core i7-3517U, which is a 1.9 GHz dual core.  Fast for a 17 W chip, yes.  But fast in an absolute sense?  No.

Intel has announced that there will be 10 W Haswell chips, and it's highly probable that they'll make a Core i7 bin of 10 W Haswell chips.  Will that be faster than Tegra 4?  If you use the integrated graphics in it, it would probably win some things and lose others.

Fiona is reportedly going to have a discrete video card in it, too.  Of course, given that this is Razer that we're talking about, it might be something like a GeForce GT 620M that gets smoked by integrated graphics.  I'd personally bet on a GeForce card with a single Kepler SMX, which is what the new Grid K1 card uses.

But there's a heavy price to pay for too much performance in a tablet form factor.  How much heat will it put out under heavy loads?  30 W?  40 W?  How much will the tablet have to weigh to accommodate that?  Will it zap the battery in under an hour, or will they go with a huge battery that just adds that much more to the weight?

Oh, and let's not forget the reported $1500 price tag.

-----

If you want a gaming tablet that uses considerably more power than is reasonable in a tablet, then AMD's Kabini at 15 W will probably look awfully nice.  Not sure if anyone will make such a tablet.  Or should.  That's what Temash is for.

  GrayGhost79

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

1/07/13 9:42:47 PM#39
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by BelegStrongbow Looks like they are competing with Razer     http://www.razerzone.com/projectfiona   http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade   EDIT:  This is the product you guys should really be talking about,  That nvidia thing looks like trash compared to the new Razer devices.  I went to CES 2012 and demoed them.  They are pretty wild.
Fiona is a different beast all together. The unique aspect of Nvidias "Console" is the streaming. As far as streaming "Consoles" go this is bottom of the barrel, over the next few months you will start getting news on the ones you need to be watching out for. Theres many more coming of varying quality. So will be an easy pass, others are a bit more ambitious. 
And how exactly do they propose to make a higher end "console" for streaming games over the Internet when the crippling factors are latency and bandwidth, neither of which depend on the console? I don't know how Project Shield will compare to what we'll see in the next several months, but in raw performance for rendering games locally, it's massively ahead of anything else on the market today.  And that's a big deal. Speaking of other things coming in the next several months, AMD has again confirmed that there will be Temash quad cores (contrary to rumors that it would be dual-core only), and now also that Temash is coming in the first half of this year.  Rumors say AMD will launch it at CeBIT in March.
I know, I know, you don't want to see streaming gaming take hold. Problem is, it's coming wether you want it to or not lol. 

 

In any case higher end systems includes things like better build quality, larger screens, etc. 

 

And as far as the Shield being the best on the market right now as far as raw performance and processing power)... lol it's going to be competing with things like the Fiona. Sure, fiona and others aren't available yet, but neither is Shield. 

It's low end junk lol. It's neat, but it's more of a novelty thing you could give to your 6 year old. 

Fiona's i7 > Shields Tegra 4 lol...

 




Fiona is a PC tablet, not an Android tablet. It's going to cost a lot more. How much more? How much does an i7 gaming rig cost right now? Now scale all the hardware down into a tablet, and add a multi-touch screen. It only needs to be slightly better than 720p, but still, it's a multi-touch screen built into the device. That much more.

It's two different markets. One is for the millions of people who bought a Nintendo handheld (Shield), and the other is for people who have more money than they really know what to do with (Fiona).

 

That was in direct response to Quizzicals claim that it was going to offer more power and performance. It's not, not by a long shot. It's trying to do to many things at once and is failing to fully utilize any of it. 

With streaming the hardware Shield uses is redundant and makes it cost more than other devices meant to stream gaming in a similar fashion, if you want local performance you won't be grabbing a shield unless it's for your kid lol.  

The shield is going to be competing with the likes of Google and Ubitus that are going to stream your console games and MMO's straight to google TV's, no system required lol. It's going to be competing with hand held portable systems that stream with larger screens and better controls for less money. 

On the local side it's competing with actual devices meant to provide the content locally such as the fiona. 

 

The shield simply can't compete in price with the streaming systems and can't compete with the performance systems in power and performance. It's in limbo before it even left the gate.

 

  FromHell

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 1338

1/07/13 9:48:24 PM#40
looks like a miniature X-Box

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw

Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
.


.
The Return of ELITE !

4 Pages « 1 2 3 4 » Search