Originally posted by mymmo

haha. you guys are so out of touch. 

Are you really saying that sexism sells? With sexism in games- such as girls in mini skits- many players are not going to buy  that product because of its sillyness. Way to narrow your market when you are suppose to appeal to as many as possible.

Thats a western issue. These games are designed for eastern cultures and values, and are simply translated to English later.

If you don't like the games, or how they are presented, don't play them. They will either adapt for the western market or leave the games as eastern exclusives.

Personally I like the asian art style. It doesnt mean that I go around to high schools perving on school girls. But I guess some people find it hard to differentiate art from sexualisation. Why would I want my character to be in a generic suit of armor that looks bland? I want it to be stylised, and as other people have said, wearing less armor at higher levels usually represents that you are a more proficient fighter and have less need for cumbersome armor.

The 'realism' card is a bit lame. In 'reality' your career warriors would likely be sllightly to heavily mutilated from combat. There is nothing 'realistic' about video game combat. You don't sit there and trade hits. If you fail to block, you die. If you get a severe injury, youll probably never fight again. None of that translates over to video games, why should real armor?  

Originally posted by Hokie

Originally posted by zomard100

Originally posted by greenreen

Originally posted by zomard100

Originally posted by ste2000

It does annoy me.......together with the cute fluffy characters, it just turns me off (gamingly speaking)

It is not the fact that young ladies goes around half naked, but the fact that they do not look like fighters therefore they kill the immersion.

Look at AoC girls, that's how it is done.

They are sexual, but fit completely the lore.

Schoolgirls that holds huge Swords and fight like barbarians...........no thanks.

Yea man! That's  what i'm talking about. Girls from western mmo's looks like warriors and not like schoolgirls.  You got it :)

lol Wasn't AOC the game that people got excited that they could expose full frontal on women.  Funny to see it brought up in this topic. That's all I heard about the game , kick people with horses, blood spattered screens, and see boobs. Yup, that was it, found the horse video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-rl3RPC_Mw

 

Any school girl in miniskirt with huge sword running around in AOC? I see that you can't understand, read  post from that guy about immersion

I think that illustrates perfectly. This topic isnt against displaying women in revealing attire as its displayed in most MMO's.

But as to why asian MMO's choose to market their women adventurers as almost school-girl like.

 

For me all they'd really have to do to make it appealling to me is just get rid of the big-eye look (especially that), put some hips on them, and kill all manimal charaters and I, oh and drop the over the top anmie animations, and I'd would happily be playing and paying asian MMO's.

Thats right. +1

Gah.

If I dont like a game, I just vote with my wallet.

Which by the way currently means I dont buy games at all.

Even the new TES just sucked.

I agree with OP.  Mini skirts are bad! They should wear latex catsuit instead.

If you are talking about Bless I really can't see your point, it looks nothing like Tera and it's little girls chars.

Bless is the only game I have seen for a long time coming out that has full body armour for female characters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2iEhS1Xwio

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I'm in PETA too... People Eating Tasty Animals... Fine steak and onions last night... ^^  But seriously, people who complain (and complain...) about something that trivial, are either "activist crusaders" or trolls.  If you don't like a games graphics or theme, go play something else.  Lord knows there are any number of games to play these days.

Originally posted by Stealthman06

If you are talking about Bless I really can't see your point, it looks nothing like Tera and it's little girls chars.

Bless is the only game I have seen for a long time coming out that has full body armour for female characters.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2iEhS1Xwio

That game looks *great*. Lets see how it plays, when its out.

I thought the whole point of playing FANTASY videogames are that they are nothing like the real world.

Maybe it's just me, but if I wanted something close to the real world as possible, I would probably not play any games at all as they are in a way or the other alterating reality.

Originally posted by Gorwe
I find any form of nudity vulgar and unattractive. Maybe I am weird but girl dressed as a typical 13 year old Habsburg era girl(all fine n dandy with all them coats and shoes and...LOL!) would turn me on sooner than some butt naked chick. But then again I fancy having my IMAGINATION stroked and not something else. Maybe I am pedo material(who knows eh?)

And about the sentiment about nudity and location: have you EVER seen Warhammer(Maidens of Gaean Vale/Witch Elves) or Conan(every girl=slut. I swear it, that R.E Howard dude had some issues)??? Again, I would Like to reiterate that I'd Like my heroine be dressed in fancier/more Fantasy way of noble's gowns(think Sorcerer's robes). NOT NAKED!!!

And yes, I am more into faces/personalities n stuff than I am into tits/asses(especially the last-so unhygienic-YUCK, think of all the bacteria ffs). But I prefer the choice because what I Like, some(most) others would hate. Point in case-my love for all thing Elven...

Am I really so strange(Elves n nicely dressed girls)? Or is it normal?

No, you are just "you". Though looking over your post you say more about you than you probably intend. Oh, and regarding some things, "that's why people wash" and "the mouth has more germs than many people realize."

Still, sexuality is subjective in many cases and people are who they are.

I kind of wish someone from an asian culture, more notably Japan or South Korea, would weigh in whenever we see these threads as it would be more helpful to see someone with a "home persepective" with real insight.

Originally posted by Gorwe
I find any form of nudity vulgar and unattractive. Maybe I am weird but girl dressed as a typical 13 year old Habsburg era girl(all fine n dandy with all them coats and shoes and...LOL!) would turn me on sooner than some butt naked chick. But then again I fancy having my IMAGINATION stroked and not something else. Maybe I am pedo material(who knows eh?)

And about the sentiment about nudity and location: have you EVER seen Warhammer(Maidens of Gaean Vale/Witch Elves) or Conan(every girl=slut. I swear it, that R.E Howard dude had some issues)??? Again, I would Like to reiterate that I'd Like my heroine be dressed in fancier/more Fantasy way of noble's gowns(think Sorcerer's robes). NOT NAKED!!!

And yes, I am more into faces/personalities n stuff than I am into tits/asses(especially the last-so unhygienic-YUCK, think of all the bacteria ffs). But I prefer the choice because what I Like, some(most) others would hate. Point in case-my love for all thing Elven...

Am I really so strange(Elves n nicely dressed girls)? Or is it normal?

Your Man-Card has been suspended indefinitely.

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*sighs*   Girls in mini skirts for armor is awesome.  No one wants to see a female castanic in full plate, thats just a waste.  Come on guys, get real.

Originally posted by zomard100
I don't know people why but i hate that! I like girls  but what is to much it is to much. It looks so ridiculous to see characters running around with ass high up in the sky dressed in mini skirts. I saw that new Bless mmo and was so excited for few minutes so i gave  fast look on Tube to see what is about this game. And guess what! Again almost naked fragile girls in miniskirts with huge boobs swinging huge swords like crazy. Graphic is so realistic and awesome and again we have this Tera effect in every single new Asian mmorpg. Do you hate this?

For cloth using classes I dont care as long as there is alternatives.

For heavy armor on the other hand it is just silly. Look on Tera, you can see the panties of any female in the game and that is just silly (and somewhat offensive).

In a MMO you should be able to have your avatar look the way you want him/her. Sure, if you want to make a female avatar that looks like she is dating Charlie Sheen that is fine as long as you actually can make one in sensible clothes with a normal body as well.

I demand some armors (both male and female) that actually looks like they are usable in real combat, and I dont think that is too much to ask for. That there then is alternatives for people wanting an unrealistic look is no problem for me, the more options the better.

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

to OP:

It's simple. there are 7 billion people in the world. 3.5 are men which are by far the biggest consumers of online gaming. of those about 2 billion are asians, and the majority of them want to play with what they never see in RL: half naked young girls with big boobs.

there is simply no better business plan.

I disagree here,  asian girls are most sexy on world ,they are around 2 bilions peoples

In games it is just asian art style  ,they are not limited in sexuality as our western hypocrite culture