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1/04/13 10:19:43 AM#101
Originally posted by InFlamestwo why dont you stop hijacking the topic to push your guild wars 2 agenda . If people wanted to hear about your guild wars 2 garbage they would be there posting there. Seriously Can we get some moderation in here for this guy ? every post on this thread has been about guild wars 2 and bashing wow . |
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1/04/13 10:59:23 AM#102
Originally posted by cronius77 Why should WoW threads get special treatment? Its normal to compare a game to the best and right now, WoW is not the best. Back to the topic. I say GOOD, an MMORPG should bring many types of gameplay to allow variety in what you can do in the game. It provides longevity as well as a break from the same old crap. “I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson |
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1/04/13 12:19:54 PM#103
Can anyone not remember blizz saying they were adding a moba style bg in wow at the time that ip rights fight broke out with value over dota..
Point is this feature was planned before the arenanet announcement as a matter of fact this bg was planned as a mists launch bg but got cut and also it is to be used as a test bed for blizz all-stars.. Blizz is just trying to cash in on the moba craze and of course make it more accessible, just like they did in the mmo market.. Variety is the spice in a theme park mmo wish other devs would take note.. |
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1/04/13 12:40:57 PM#104
Originally posted by jtcgs you obviously havent read this entire thread and are posting about what i said without knowledge. The guy has been telling people not to play wow and everything else under the sun glamorizing guild wars 2 . Its called hijacking a thread to start a flame war . So please read the entire thread before you decide to accuse people of giving special treatment. And no i do not even play wow and havent for a long time. |
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rojo6934
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Joined: 8/13/09
"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli |
1/04/13 3:42:26 PM#105
Originally posted by MMOGamer71 The "world" of Warcraft was a MOBA before LoL even existed, and it had pandas. Apparently you didnt know that or are just trolling a bit. "in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"
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1/04/13 4:10:38 PM#106
Originally posted by InFlamestwo WoW isnt moving forward eh? 10+ million people would like to argue that. Played-Everything |
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1/04/13 5:11:39 PM#107
Originally posted by Chrisbox That doesnt mean anything to me except 10+ million people like playing a stagnant game. The whole number of subs = best arguement is invalid anyways. Budweiser is "King of Beers" but it certainly is not the best beer out there. Besides what exactly has Blizzard brought to the genre that is moving it forward?  [PvX]Tempest - Check us out |
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1/04/13 7:22:17 PM#108
Originally posted by Diemos It doesnt matter what it means to you though, your opinion has no play in the industry that blizzard has dominated for as long as people can remember. Obviously newer games like guild wars 2 or secretworld or rift do things better in some aspects rather than WoW and can from a technical point can be called better games, but in the end its all about how many people you can make enjoy your game and continually progress in your game. This doesn't apply to themeparks only either, its part of the reason people who play EVE online have played for years on end and dont stop, the playerbase only makes moderate growths if you follow it, it has never dipped. Same with people who played SWG earlier on, im sure they would go back to it if given the chance. Played-Everything |
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1/04/13 11:14:08 PM#109
Rift needed a more compelling storyling/newbie beginning, the skills were repetitive shared homogenized on soul trees, like having 3 or 4 execute combinations that do the same thing and another 2 or 4 quick attacks that do the similar thing... Some ideas were cool, but the trees are too limited. You can't pick stuff freely , you have to be this level to have this ability in your tree, and that's final, no picking cure at low level becaue it would be so useful, you have to wait until higher level because we said so!! Cholormancer rez I think is 44th level, but , how about a game where you can more openly choose when you get skill/spells instead of having to speed level and wait? You get redundant abilities and can't choose what you need like cures... GW2 made leveling to easy and had no end-game carrot on a stick gear grind to retain, they lacked enough fluff... Gamers aren't ready to give up their shiny loot hamster wheel grinding ( |
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1/04/13 11:23:42 PM#110
All the talk about blizz stole this, milkin' and blah blah blah makes me laugh. If you haven't noticed by now, every game copies things from other games...For some reason people like to bash Blizzard when they do it, but when Anet does it they're gods? Anet stole the idea for DOTA...didn't see anyone say that when that was announced... google "Double Standard" XD DOTA stole it from Aeons of Strife back in Starcraft...it's how things are done. You take what someone's done, put your own spin or improve upon it. It's one of the reasons why mankind has been so successful in our short history. "Well, there was a time when I was quick to judge others based on what little I'd heard. But... traveling with even the worst, slimiest, smelliest of tieflings and no-honor tree-worshipping elves has taught me some of them are all right." -Khelgar Ironfist |
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1/05/13 12:40:03 AM#111
Originally posted by Gravarg I know where do people get off giving ANet the credit like that? I mean they treat them as though they were actually there creating Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo, and WoW. Jeez how crazy. The current Blizz devs deserve all the credit for that, right? That was sarcasm by the way. But snark aside, you do get my point I hope. |
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1/05/13 1:02:47 AM#112
Ermm Anet founders was the guys behind Warcraft 3, Which spawned DOTA, which was reintroduce by Anet, and now fans of Blizz are claiming Anet is copying them??? Pot-Kettle-Black Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language :) |
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azzamasin
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Joined: 6/06/12
We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality. |
1/05/13 3:36:30 AM#113
WoW still trys and fails. Still no player Housing. Still only 1 Hero Class. Still no content designed with solo'ers in mind. Still lacks cahracter progression above and beyond item/stat inflation and still refuses to accept casuals make up the bulk of their player base and do anything to promote their limited game time.
If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
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1/05/13 5:29:06 AM#114
Computer games are an iterative business if it were not we all be playing Pong by Atari in 2013. Some of the ANet guys did work at blizzard about 10 years ago, learning from the pro's between sweeping the floors, running out to starbucks to get Mike Morhaime coffee, they clearly were not good enough to stay beyond what they were contracted to do and so were let go and replaced with more skilled staff.
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1/05/13 6:02:46 AM#115
Originally posted by expresso So that's why blizzard is using MPQ format file (short for Mike O'Brien Pack, named after its creator, who is president of ArenaNet) for 16 years now. That makes perfect sense, thanks for whiteknighting blizzard. Seriously, blizzard just realised that MOBA's are popular and could help their sinking pandatanic. It's the same relation as DayZ is to WarZ. WarZ is just moneywhoring based on popularity of DayZ, same as MOBA in wow is moneywhoring based on popularity of LoL/DotA. The only difference is that WarZ was made by random noname developer so attempt of charging people for eating shit simply didn't work. I suppose that with WoW it will be exactly opposite because blizzard fanboys will eat ALL the shit blizzards serves them, no matter how stinky and expensive it is. |
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1/05/13 6:06:37 AM#116
Originally posted by KhinRunite as i said, it won't be dota if it's not the same combat. WoW combat is stale,require no aiming, no skill etc.
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1/05/13 6:11:19 AM#117
Originally posted by Chrisbox 10 million doesn't say anything about the quality of the game or how much it innovates. WoW is like Justin Bieber, shallow and fake.
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1/05/13 6:21:30 AM#118
Originally posted by Gravarg I dislike Blizzard because WoW is an old mmorpg that doesn't innovate, it's the same old, release same type of content and the gameplay is stale and boring. People get infected like mindless zombies, and as fast as another developer release a new innovative feature Blizzard does something simillar in their game that's not as good as in the other gam but it keep their players playing the same old boring game with the same mindless gameplay for years. Then the WoW fanboys can say other game developers copy Blizzard and not the other way around. Blizzard are immature and ignorant towards their fanbase and players, i've seen a few of their interviews and i know what they're doing. When Titan release, most of those 10 millions WoW players will move to Titan, which is a pretty good strategy but they don't care about anyone else, it's all about the money, no pride, nothing. Shallow and fake.
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1/05/13 10:21:49 AM#119
Originally posted by Myrdynn The word innovation derives from the Latin word innovates, which is the noun form of innovare "to renew or change," By definition of the word Anet did much to innovate the MMO world. They changed the concept of combat through more action oriented style with a dodge mechanic. They removed and changed the questing hub system that was standard in almost every MMO before them by adding in dynamic events and completely removing the need for traditional questing hubs where you ran back and forth to for quests. They created an MMO world where almost every zone feels alive and lived in through npc placement, random voice chit chat and aminations/sounds. This alone is missing in so many other MMO worlds where you go outside a zone and see massive amounts of creatures to grind on. Anet made griefing in a gome over resources, bosses, and kills non-existent. No more fighting over a kill or resource. Anet made many innovative changes to the way MMOs function and play. Just because they didn't "rock your world" does not mean they didn't try new things or change ones we are familiar with. Blank-man |
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1/05/13 1:20:54 PM#120
Originally posted by InFlamestwo what was that supposed to be? going for the most useless comment here? "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!" |
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