Originally posted by morgan101
Well, I think the graphics are really good. 

And it's easy to dance to.

Sorry, American Bandstand reference.

LoL gw2 did not even make it past the first round. Looks like mass effect 3 won.

Originally posted by erictlewis

LoL gw2 did not even make it past the first round. Looks like mass effect 3 won.

yes it did

Originally posted by cloud8521

Originally posted by erictlewis

LoL gw2 did not even make it past the first round. Looks like mass effect 3 won.

yes it did

Strange because when I checked it out Far Cry 3 had won overall.

Horrible poll.  They are asking you to choose between two completely different genres.  A 3rd person shooter vs fantasy MMO?  Might as well ask which is better, Star Wars Episode IV or Cheesecake?

Originally posted by taziar

Horrible poll.  They are asking you to choose between two completely different genres.  A 3rd person shooter vs fantasy MMO?  Might as well ask which is better, Star Wars Episode IV or Cheesecake?

What kind of Cheesecake?

Originally posted by miguksaram

Originally posted by cloud8521

Originally posted by erictlewis

LoL gw2 did not even make it past the first round. Looks like mass effect 3 won.

yes it did

Strange because when I checked it out Far Cry 3 had won overall.

funny because i was tlaking about making it though the first round

Originally posted by Serelisk

Originally posted by taziar

Horrible poll.  They are asking you to choose between two completely different genres.  A 3rd person shooter vs fantasy MMO?  Might as well ask which is better, Star Wars Episode IV or Cheesecake?

What kind of Cheesecake?

Any kind of cheescake is better than anything corny SW has ever done! :)

Originally posted by KingJiggly

Originally posted by issling
I wouldn't vote for our genre, I don't want people to think this is what it has to offer.

Voting would equal new people and new ideas. There is a reason why this genre hasnt changed in 7 years, it is becuase the community hasnt. 

In part the stagnation of the genre is a result of "new blood."  Back when mmorpgs were much smaller in terms of people, games like UO and EQ had complex systems, great in-game communities and devs always looking to push the genre a bit futher.  WoW brought in a huge influx of players which wrecked communities and reduced players to just another number.  The vast majority of this "new blood" wasn't necessarily tech savy or familiar with rpgs, and didn't want complex systems or long terms goals.  These new players wanted fast progress, fewer rules to learn, less intricate encounters and lots of shines.  

Devs responded by providing stale content that people put on "farm" to get their shines, with an exp bar that showed rapid advancement, so players could feel a sense of accomplishment.  Gone were the days in which mmorpgs were worlds, and players were part of a community, now the days of grind and anonymity rose.

The new blood didn't want their fun in the form of imagination, freedom and friendship, they wanted goals/activities that could be shown in gear or numbers.

Honestly the best thing that could happen to the genre is too contract sharply.  Get rid of the people who are only here to stroke their egos and "win", and let those looking for worlds reclaim the genre.  

As long as studios can throw together some shoddy game that feeds the stats/shines crew long enough to make a profit, we won't see any serious progress or improvement.

Originally posted by augustgrace

Originally posted by KingJiggly

Originally posted by issling
I wouldn't vote for our genre, I don't want people to think this is what it has to offer.

Voting would equal new people and new ideas. There is a reason why this genre hasnt changed in 7 years, it is becuase the community hasnt. 

In part the stagnation of the genre is a result of "new blood."  Back when mmorpgs were much smaller in terms of people, games like UO and EQ had complex systems, great in-game communities and devs always looking to push the genre a bit futher.  WoW brought in a huge influx of players which wrecked communities and reduced players to just another number.  The vast majority of this "new blood" wasn't necessarily tech savy or familiar with rpgs, and didn't want complex systems or long terms goals.  These new players wanted fast progress, fewer rules to learn, less intricate encounters and lots of shines.  

Devs responded by providing stale content that people put on "farm" to get their shines, with an exp bar that showed rapid advancement, so players could feel a sense of accomplishment.  Gone were the days in which mmorpgs were worlds, and players were part of a community, now the days of grind and anonymity rose.

The new blood didn't want their fun in the form of imagination, freedom and friendship, they wanted goals/activities that could be shown in gear or numbers.

Honestly the best thing that could happen to the genre is too contract sharply.  Get rid of the people who are only here to stroke their egos and "win", and let those looking for worlds reclaim the genre.  

As long as studios can throw together some shoddy game that feeds the stats/shines crew long enough to make a profit, we won't see any serious progress or improvement.

+1

Well said.