Originally posted by Rthuth434

Originally posted by mymmo

Originally posted by Rthuth434
i've played TSW off and on ultimately giving it up. everyone keeps saying how it's new and fresh, but i never saw how. mind explaining that? hopefully you're all not just talking about the setting.

The setting, the detective quests, the lore and the horizontel grinding :)

New stuff in other words :)

the quests while not all new were my most obvious thing that was implemented somewhat  differently. the "grinding" is completely linear and standard(vertical). the zone progression is the same. you can only go where you gear permits really, and the gear determines your level. the character level is more "omitted" than non-existent. this aspect of TSW functions exactly the same as world of warcraft.

the lore is patchwork from century old recycled stories, different names plugged in.

Originally posted by KingofHartz
If you never played D2 then D 3 probably isn't bad

I still play Diablo 2, complete with two level 99 hardcore Amazons. ;)

Originally posted by KingofHartz
If you never played D2 then D 3 probably isn't bad

That is very true. I think the majority of complaints about D3 is that it isn't D2. 

I like Suzie's list. It's the best list so for from the MMORPG staff.

At least Suzie's list made a lot more since than a couple of the other list that we saw. I got to still disagree with swtor being the best of 2012. but hey thats me. Diablo 3 was ok it lasted me 3 months.

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by KingofHartz
If you never played D2 then D 3 probably isn't bad

 

That is very true. I think the majority of complaints about D3 is that it isn't D2. 

I like Suzie's list. It's the best list so for from the MMORPG staff.

The list is ok. The sad part is that is consists of 4 themeparks and 3 games which are not even MMOs. I wished a more sandboxish game would have made it into that list. Unfortunately I also see no sandbox in 2012 which would deserve it.

Finally a list that makes SOME sense.

I came here thinking "oh gawd pwease say GW2!!!" and of course it delivered.  That stinker gets so much more praise than it deserves.

But at least you picked D3, ME3, and TL2, along with the only one so far that picked Rift if I'm not mistaken. 

I'm confused. You're comparing RPG to MMORPGs on a MMORPG website. Based on what you wrote, it's clear the MMORPG genre no longer appeals to you. Why even list MMORPGs?

Are you trying to imply all games are included in your best? Then why not include console, FPS, RTS or facebook games if this article is purely "Suzie's Best of 2012."

If you only play a game because "it's your job" obviously you're not going to like it as much as the types of games you like. So don't muddy the waters and only list the games you like...

Originally posted by Suntastic

I'm confused. You're comparing RPG to MMORPGs on a MMORPG website. Based on what you wrote, it's clear the MMORPG genre no longer appeals to you. Why even list MMORPGs?

 

Are you trying to imply all games are included in your best? Then why not include console, FPS, RTS or facebook games if this article is purely "Suzie's Best of 2012."

 

If you only play a game because "it's your job" obviously you're not going to like it as much as the types of games you like. So don't muddy the waters and only list the games you like...

I love MMOs, lots of them. In fact, my list included 4 that I initially started playing as a function of my job but grew to love enough to play when I had time. 

The whole purpose of this list (and the other 4) was to write what our favorites, hence the ones we "like", for the year.

Originally posted by Suntastic

So don't muddy the waters and only list the games you like...

But that IS what these lists are about. MMORPG.com is following the format pushed by many websites such as GiantBomb where each staffs lists their favorite games of the year. It's a purely subjective lists of 'my bests games of the year" like any member of this forum could post.

So, I really don't see the issue with the staffs writing about the games they liked when that's the whole purpose of the column...

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

Glad to see RIFT in there. I don't play it because it's not exactly my type of game (although I did beta test it and recently tried their free lv 1-20 trial), Trion is a company that, without a doubt, deserve a lot of praise for the insane pace at which they develop content. They're the only company so far to make the $15 a month seem worth it because they're delivering new content on a nearly monthly basis, unlike certain other games...

Surprised they didn't get more mention than that this year however. (Although Storm Legion did get them an award)

 With this in mind, I don't understand why people are so negative, and/or apathetic about Trion's next MMO Defiance?  Is it because people hate Syfy? (Although I don't understand that either). Seriously, I am looking forward to this game/show more than anything else next year due largely to the involvement of Trion and the writer of Farscape. The lack of love for this title baffles me.

I guess the problem with D3 for me was that I was so looking forward to it as a long time D2 player.  Blizzard did about everything wrong they could do with it.  Horrible itemization.  300 hours in the game and no legendary drops at all.  Now that is pathetic.  Even the yellow drops were horrible.  I just detest having to buy equipment, but the stuff I find is rarely of any use and I am not that picky.  I just finally stopped playing it, games are supposed to be fun, not frustrating.

As to SWTOR, SWG in any form was far superior.  Played it for a month and regretted the decision to buy it.  The game was all fluff and no substance.

The rest of your list are good choices, all decent games.

About the only games I find myself playing these days are Eve and occassionally Lotro.  I have not found any of these current games to hold my interest very long at all.

Because of Trion's rep though, I am looking forward to giving Defiance a try.  

Originally posted by Senadina

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

Glad to see RIFT in there. I don't play it because it's not exactly my type of game (although I did beta test it and recently tried their free lv 1-20 trial), Trion is a company that, without a doubt, deserve a lot of praise for the insane pace at which they develop content. They're the only company so far to make the $15 a month seem worth it because they're delivering new content on a nearly monthly basis, unlike certain other games...

Surprised they didn't get more mention than that this year however. (Although Storm Legion did get them an award)

 With this in mind, I don't understand why people are so negative, and/or apathetic about Trion's next MMO Defiance?  Is it because people hate Syfy? (Although I don't understand that either). Seriously, I am looking forward to this game/show more than anything else next year due largely to the involvement of Trion and the writer of Farscape. The lack of love for this title baffles me.

I think it's because of how different it is from the rest of the MMO genre. There still isn't that much love for MMOFPS (or TPS) on this forum (with PS2 as more or less of an exception) and despite what the more vocal part of this community says, I'd say most members are pretty content with the more traditionnal MMORPG gameplay and Defiance would conflict with their interest.

Add TERA and remove SWTOR, then  I'd be good with the list.

Unless it deserves honorable mention for most money spent...  on what I'm not sure.

Pretty surprised you chose D3 as one of your games it has to be said, think I played it for 3 hours and I've not touched it since and probably never will.

2012 was an interesting year in gaming.  It was, without a doubt, one of the most hyped up years.  SWTOR (okay late 2011, early 2012), GW2, Tera, D3, TSW - lots of stuff to look forward to.

I'm not sure what people were expecting on D3 but there are still millions of people playing it so i'm assuming it delivered on the funfactor - and thats really what counts the most.

Anyways, cheers to 2013!