I'm just following the news trend...

My best of 2012?

NOTHING

Theme Parks, Theme Parks, and more Theme Parks. Battlegrounds, Arenas, Warzones, or whatever else you want to call them - all the same stuff. Rangers, Archers, Fletchers, Snipers, Riflemen... all the same stuff. Games are literally so boring and redundant now that people are refusing to pay subscription costs. It's obvious that most of a game's budget is spent on advertising.

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Originally posted by Rydeson
OP.. I think most of us are feeling that way with today's junk and I fear it wont' change anytime soon..

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Therefor, MMO creators will keep following the same trend. Until they stop selling millions of copies at, or before, release. Money talks. Message board posts do not :)

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 

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Originally posted by Rydeson
OP.. I think most of us are feeling that way with today's junk and I fear it wont' change anytime soon..

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Unfortunately, your "most of us" equates to a "few of us." Why do I say this? Because just about every new MMO released sells millions of copies (many times pre-release), thus keeping the trend alive. If "most of us" truly felt that MMOs suck at this time, these MMOs would be failing left and right, not selling millions of copies.

 

Therefor, MMO creators will keep following the same trend. Until they stop selling millions of copies at, or before, release. Money talks. Message board posts do not :)

I disagree.

Most of the flops that have released came from WoW's Golden Era. WoW was doing well. Most of the games we all hate started development during the peak of WoW.

Investors want profit and lots of it. They want longevity. Other than initial box sales, they bring home very little....while still having to maintain employees, server fees, etc.

People aren't buying these Theme Parks because they are Theme Parks. They buy them because there isn't anything else to do in the genre.

Sorry about the lateness of the reply. I just got Dawnguard and Hearthfire for Skyrim and have been busy :) This plus nothing on the MMO horizon trips my trigger...

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Originally posted by mmoDAD

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Originally posted by AlBQuirky

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Originally posted by Rydeson
OP.. I think most of us are feeling that way with today's junk and I fear it wont' change anytime soon..

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Unfortunately, your "most of us" equates to a "few of us." Why do I say this? Because just about every new MMO released sells millions of copies (many times pre-release), thus keeping the trend alive. If "most of us" truly felt that MMOs suck at this time, these MMOs would be failing left and right, not selling millions of copies.

Therefor, MMO creators will keep following the same trend. Until they stop selling millions of copies at, or before, release. Money talks. Message board posts do not :)

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I disagree.

Most of the flops that have released came from WoW's Golden Era. WoW was doing well. Most of the games we all hate started development during the peak of WoW.

Investors want profit and lots of it. They want longevity. Other than initial box sales, they bring home very little....while still having to maintain employees, server fees, etc.

People aren't buying these Theme Parks because they are Theme Parks. They buy them because there isn't anything else to do in the genre.

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Originally posted by mmoDAD

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 

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Originally posted by Rydeson
OP.. I think most of us are feeling that way with today's junk and I fear it wont' change anytime soon..

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Unfortunately, your "most of us" equates to a "few of us." Why do I say this? Because just about every new MMO released sells millions of copies (many times pre-release), thus keeping the trend alive. If "most of us" truly felt that MMOs suck at this time, these MMOs would be failing left and right, not selling millions of copies.

 

Therefor, MMO creators will keep following the same trend. Until they stop selling millions of copies at, or before, release. Money talks. Message board posts do not :)

I disagree.

Most of the flops that have released came from WoW's Golden Era. WoW was doing well. Most of the games we all hate started development during the peak of WoW.

Investors want profit and lots of it. They want longevity. Other than initial box sales, they bring home very little....while still having to maintain employees, server fees, etc.

People aren't buying these Theme Parks because they are Theme Parks. They buy them because there isn't anything else to do in the genre.

Really? What is forcing these people to buy these games you hate so much? If people truly hated these games then why are they buying them? It is called voting with your wallet. No one forces ANYONE to buy a game. If people really did not like these oh so evil "themepark" games do you really think they would spend good money on them? I go to a diner to eat and I get hit in the head with a brick each time I am going to stop eating there. I certainly am not going to continue eating at that diner only because all the other diners hit me in the head with a brick as well...

FFS...

You can't really say that NO mmo was the best this last year, of course there was the best, but it was a contest of which turd smells the least like shit.

They all smelt like shit, but one of them smelt a little better.

The reason people keep buying these games is so simple, a little story will now follow..

I am an MMO gamer, started in roughly 2000, it was my genre, I loved it. For the next 4 years I was completely happy, no issues with current games I had lots to try, lots to wait for, everything was going very well for me. Then I started to pine for a good sandbox and waited, I delt with several failures, big ones, slowly but surely 2009 slowly slteathed its merry way up on me, and I became jaded, Mortal Online had just fallen flat on its face and I began.. the long wait.. Which most others on here are currently sitting through.

Unfortunately to the kid whos never played WoW, his first time logging in no doubt blows his mind. Then he hears about free to play games, and all over again his tiny brain is blown. For the next four years, he'll support all these new games coming out, he'll sample many, he'll eventually enter the long wait like the rest of us, but the pattern will always repeat its self, MMOs will always acrew new subscribers growing into the genre, because it is EPIC, it's mind blowing the first time you see hundreds of other players all at once in a virtual world.

There is a light on the horizon, the long wait crew, us, or those of us who head up development studios are finally getting to make their MMOs to combat the current crop of what they consider garbage MMOs, within the next few years we'll begin to see significant divergence in the MMO market, finally.

Originally posted by mmoDAD
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Theme Parks, Theme Parks, and more Theme Parks. Battlegrounds, Arenas, Warzones, or whatever else you want to call them - all the same stuff. Rangers, Archers, Fletchers, Snipers, Riflemen... all the same stuff. Games are literally so boring and redundant now that people are refusing to pay subscription costs. It's obvious that most of a game's budget is spent on advertising.

I've been reluctant to pay subscription for any game, because none of them have been worth it, really. And most of game's budget is not spent on advertising. Whatever your tantrum is about, it is a poor excuse to make up facts. But then again, it has not stopped you in the past.

I can't help but think that many of the more adamant bittervets have caused their displeasure themselves by being overly idealistic, unrealistic and still living in the past refusing to change. Then they've fed their bad mood with false facts, gross over-exaggeration, speculation and general "tinfoil hattery". Its a vicious spiral to be sure. I wonder if there is a cure?

Originally posted by mmoDAD

I'm just following the news trend...

 

My best of 2012?

 

NOTHING

 

 

Theme Parks, Theme Parks, and more Theme Parks. Battlegrounds, Arenas, Warzones, or whatever else you want to call them - all the same stuff. Rangers, Archers, Fletchers, Snipers, Riflemen... all the same stuff. Games are literally so boring and redundant now that people are refusing to pay subscription costs. It's obvious that most of a game's budget is spent on advertising.

That is the same as me. Everything released and done (MMO-wise) in 2012 was pathetic

I'm still waiting for everyone to tell me how great warZ is.

I remember a few month ago everyone says how great dayZ is and if some developer just follow that formula. 

Originally posted by mmoDAD

I'm just following the news trend...

 

My best of 2012?

 

NOTHING

 

 

Theme Parks, Theme Parks, and more Theme Parks. Battlegrounds, Arenas, Warzones, or whatever else you want to call them - all the same stuff. Rangers, Archers, Fletchers, Snipers, Riflemen... all the same stuff. Games are literally so boring and redundant now that people are refusing to pay subscription costs. It's obvious that most of a game's budget is spent on advertising.

Thanks for NOTHING!

What a useless thread.

I enjoyed every game that I played in 2012. They all had qualities that made them fun.

If you're looking for a game to replace your RL, you will always be disappointed. Games can't do that. If you're playing a game that you don't like, or feel the need to complain about a game that you no longer play, then it's time to move on.

Enjoy games for what they are, not for what they aren't. That way, you won't get so emotional when a game doesn't meet your unreachable expectations.