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1/03/13 3:38:16 PM#61
Originally posted by Torvaldr You are correct sir. They are known to rip off idea and they rarely innovate. But for some reason people think Blizzard ripped off Anet, because it make them feel better I guess. When in actuality a more plausible assumption is they ripped off LoL. The same people Anet are ripping off as well. |
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1/03/13 3:40:30 PM#62
Originally posted by Nevulus They are reacting to GW, LoL, and DoTA. GW1 was a wildly successful esport and GW2 I think is very popular and Blizz wants to keep players focused on what they offer. |
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1/03/13 3:40:41 PM#63
Originally posted by Nevulus If it makes you feel better to say they ripped off LoL when they decided to put an MOBA mode in an MMO then I can accept that lol. At least we are agreeing they ripped off someone even if we can't agree with whom they ripped off. |
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1/03/13 3:41:42 PM#64
Originally posted by Nevulus LoL is the worst MOBA that exist. HoN, Dota and Bloodline Champions are the only ones worth mentioning.
Edit: Yes they are ripping off Anet by adding a dota style gamemode to their PvP. ArenaNet announced they are working on one about 1 year ago or maybe longer. All blizzard do is competing with other games and adding similar types of content to keep their players interested and so they can say other developers rip off their features.
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1/03/13 3:41:56 PM#65
Originally posted by Nevulus Actualy they're all ripping me off, I thought of MOBA's was before it became a MOD for WC3, true and no one can say otherwise.
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1/03/13 3:49:51 PM#66
Originally posted by Rusque I don't know why some of you guys are ripping on that comment. It is true - Blizzard IS milking everything out of the cashcow.
He didn't say whether it is good or bad or justified or not; just stating the fact that they are milking it, which THEY ARE.
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1/03/13 3:53:53 PM#67
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG You're right WoW has had a good run, with only 8 million or so active subscribers there's not much point in supporting the game any more, might has well throw out some half assed content and milk it quickly cus it will probably be shutting down in a month or two. Blizzard are not milking WoW, they are supporting their producted with content patches and expansions.
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1/03/13 3:56:43 PM#68
Originally posted by Torvaldr Yes because Blizzard does not already have control one of the biggest if not the biggest Esport game. GW1 was mildly successful at best.
The fact of the matter is Blizzard made a map editor with SC and WC3 that did not come with most good RTS of the time, not even speaking of the stolen models names and item mechnics, that DOTA and AoS benefited from. Do you truly believe it would have been as easy to make DOTA without Blizzard?
I don't like alot of the things that Blizzard has done lately, but they did not steal anything from ArenaNet. Lets talk about game mechanics that Anet is stealing.
Siege PvP - Countless Games. Dynamic Events - Funny how this happened after rift, strickly speaking Trion did say it first, and sense you wanted to say Blizzard copied this Idea from them then, well there you go. Guild Wars 2 did do DEs with more grace. Player Driven Story - Oh goddd this has been done by everyone. Well, just about anything Guild Wars 2 does has been done, its just wrapped up and made to look pretty. It is no better then Blizzard after all ArenaNets management is all ex-Blizzard. |
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1/03/13 4:09:48 PM#69
Originally posted by expresso Adding fluffs and expansions ARE the definition of milking it, lol... especially if they are charging additional money for it. It is same as the fact that Peter Jackson is milking the crap out of The Hobbit by making what can be told in 1 movie into 3 and Lucasarts was milking the crap out of the Star Wars franchise by making a whole series of very average Star Wars based games.
Again not saying it is right or wrong, just saying it is what it is.
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1/03/13 4:11:41 PM#70
Did I miss something here? The footage shows landscape stills (not even an active world) of nothing more than what you see in WoW already. I see no indication that this is anything other than a fly-by still footage of landscapes. If they are adding a MOBA style play to WoW........ great for them. It took them long enough to try something different in PvP. It only took WoW around 3-4 years to add AoE looting into the game after a few other MMOs successfully used it in their games. Blizzard as a whole has only seemed to dissapoint me over the years with their approach to gaming. If others are happy with status-quo then that is great, but this gamer has left the Blizz bus a while back and does not see any reason to support the company so far. Blank-man |
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1/03/13 4:35:33 PM#71
This is great if true. I've been itching for some dota action when playing wow bgs. I even searched for private servers with this mod.
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1/03/13 4:57:01 PM#72
Originally posted by ichihaifu Seems very mature. I don't like it any longer... So I want it to just die off. Nice. Wow being around isn't hurting anything at all. Developers are free to make what the wish... You can't just blame Warcraft for lazy ass game developers. I'm playing wow after 8 years on and off and still having fun. Don't just assume because you don't lie something, no one else likes it. All of these games are a mat of taste. |
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Lionexx
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Joined: 5/18/04
Alphen arms dealer rijin? No one can pronounce that Kyle! I can''t speak African.. |
1/03/13 5:06:00 PM#73
Originally posted by GeekieDave As you have been told more then once, Warcraft was not a MOBA(Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) Warcraft started off as RTS(Real-time strategy) Then in Warcraft 3 a mod was made AKA Dota, Which spwaned MOBAs from...
The more you know..... Playing: Everthing |
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Lionexx
Novice Member
Joined: 5/18/04
Alphen arms dealer rijin? No one can pronounce that Kyle! I can''t speak African.. |
1/03/13 5:15:48 PM#74
Originally posted by Serenes
Do some research please, Blizzard had copyed game's workshop to start with (AKA Warhammer) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_Workshop(1975) Vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment (1991) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle (1983?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000 (1987?) But really when it comes down to it Games workshop got there influance from Tolkin and prior writers.
If you dig deeper you would know that warcraft would NEVER exist if game's workshop and blizzard didn't ever team up to make a video game to begin with. Just do some research, you might find a lot. :) Playing: Everthing |
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1/03/13 5:24:38 PM#75
what I get from this ANet announced they are gonna do something Blizzard said good idea ANet years later still working on it allegedly Blizzard has the system in place. Everything in the MMO universe is copied from something. Im not a huge Blizzard fan, but I will say they still have the best combat engine (response time is instant) , and are the best at implementing and perfecting ideas Guild Wars 2 has does absolutely NOTHING innovative, not 1 thing
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1/03/13 5:25:06 PM#76
Originally posted by Lionexx Did anything I said lead you to believe I did not already know this? I know Blizzard benefited from other companies work. That is my point that Blizzard is no more a copy cat then any other game company, a good idea is a good idea.
Does it make you feel smart to say "Do research" when the research you told me to do had nothing to do with the topic in which I was talking about? If it was related it was obscure.
But as far as I can see I did not say "BLIZZARD COPIED NO ONE ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHER WISE IS A LIAR AND A NITT WITT." No what I said is Blizzard is no more guilty of coping then ArenaNet/Riot/Bioware/etc/etc. I do defend WoW but I defend it on factual evidence of the game, I have no plans to deny WoW has copied endless amounts of mechanics but if you can blame one without seeing the others then they are blind and ignorant and all I wanted to do was educate them on the fact, that everyone does it. |
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1/03/13 5:31:55 PM#77
WoW was in esport, it just stopped at a certain point because of various reasons. GW2 MIGHT be an esport when they will be able to add all the content that is missing in PvP. GW1 wasn't an esport whatsoever, sure it had some tournaments with cash prizes and some ladder on ESL, but it was never an esport. I've never seen someone getting paid to play GW1. If people playing the game aren't paid professional, then the game is not an esport.
LoL is actually the biggest esport on the planet. Sure its still the easiest MOBA compared to DOTA or HoN but you can't deny the fact that its the most played game and the biggest esport. |
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Loktofeit
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Joined: 1/13/10
EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
1/03/13 6:16:23 PM#78
Originally posted by ichihaifu Actually, it's rather brilliant and something a lot of players probably want but don't know it yet. I'm not talking about DotA specifically, but the ability to have one login, one persistent stable of characters and a plethora of games to play with them. All the resources you've accumulated shared across each of the games. They could add plenty of games within World of Warcraft and most of them would have an equal or greater appeal than one someone would have to create a new login for, roll new characters for and pay extra for. muvfuxxin brilliant. To go to what's probably an extreme, think PlayStation Home with progression, or Steam with a 3D world for its client. filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
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1/03/13 6:21:35 PM#79
Originally posted by SirFubar It doesn't matter if it's big, Justin bieber is big and he's not a legend or a memoreable singer. LoL will be forgotten soon. Dota and HoN are the true mobas.
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1/03/13 6:23:00 PM#80
Originally posted by Myrdynn ArenaNet have innovated alot more with GW1 and GW2 than Blizzard have ever done with WoW. WoW's good innovations was dungeon finder and talent trees.
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