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12/26/12 4:04:12 PM#21
I have a problem with the idea of ignoring the developer comments. I mean this is where our money will be going. I don't want to give that person any money. It could be the best game ever, but I don't want a penny of my money going into this development team's pocket.
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12/26/12 4:09:41 PM#22
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath yup but it goes to say how far the development team will go to create their game, it goes to say how shady they are, and if they are willing to rip one thing off, is there any limit for what they will do? who are you going to believe, someone who has a history of stealing or someone who has a clean record? Gameplay wise how about them putting it up on steam saying all these features exist but actually don't and then have steam do what they rarely ever have done which is pull the game off their site. I work on games creating levels and gameplay on a daily basis and to say this game was created before DayZ is a joke. I would like to know where all time went towards cause all I see is a multiplayer death match, if I wanted a good Fps game I'd lean towards Bf3, Cod etc. |
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12/26/12 4:11:45 PM#23
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath lozl your funny, titoff even said himself that the game was not in development before dayz. and if it was...why is it so crappy? WarZ was not in development b 4 dayz im sorry but it wasnt you can believe watever u hear but titoff even said himself the game has only been in development for a few months.... THEY ALSO ripped WarZ off of War Inc. So they have 2 strikes agains them for copying...oh wait 3. LoL's terms were copy and paisted too... seriously this game needs to be shut down and everyone refunded there money back...and titoff titty face needs to be prosicuted at the full extent of the law for all his crimes he has commited.
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12/26/12 4:17:21 PM#24
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath Ehh No it wasn't |
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12/26/12 5:32:28 PM#25
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath
No, that's not true. The War Z has only been in development since around May of this year.
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12/27/12 12:27:24 AM#26
Originally posted by Talonsin The War Z started as quest progression multiplayer game based on the book "World War Z" (without permision of course) hence the name The War Z. When Day Z came out they decided to change the game from a multiplayer lobby type game to an MMO (not-really-a-MMO) type game Sergey Titov - IGN.COM So short answer – while we began developing our game before DayZ, we've been encouraged by fact that DayZ has become so popular. And yes, of course some of our latest design decisions were influenced by the DayZ community forums.
Originally posted by Starpower Anybody that has played both TWZ and DZ would know that (gameplay-wise) they are two completely different games and if TWZ did copy DZ they failed miserably. Day Z is a true survival horror game and The War Z is a survival of the fittest shooter.
Originally posted by UristMcDwarf I feel that many of you taken what I said out of context. I said "The War Z has been the works before you (Laross) knew Day Z existed". So the 2 terrible sources you provided mean precisely dick and the only way you can prove me wrong is to know when Laross knew Day Z existed. |
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12/27/12 2:21:20 PM#27
Originally posted by Ichmen I stopped reading after that. "I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live." |
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12/27/12 2:38:09 PM#28
Because its a con
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12/27/12 2:39:54 PM#29
War z is a quickly hacked mod to war inc. It's been in development for a few months.
It's designed to cash in on world war z and day z. |
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12/27/12 11:07:50 PM#30
I honestly wanted to give this game a try, but after the NUMEROUS horror stories about devs helping people cheat, the staff shitting on the playerbase, the game missing tons of what was promised. I elected to spend my money on something else. Maybe if it's still alive in 6 months I'll give it another go.
"Life is not judged by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." |
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12/28/12 4:42:10 PM#31
**In my post, I mention opinions shared by a large portion of the vocal internet community, and then I give my opinion underneath. I'll give you the truth about the game. I've been playing it since it was released for alpha months ago. Completely UNBIAS as I really don't give a rat's behind about this game, but I think the internet communities unjustly ruined any potential this game had. Not to say the developers didn't have a hand in tarnishing its own reputation. FACT: Titov was a developer on one of the worst games of all time, Big Rigs. Does that mean doom anything he releases in the future? Absolutely not, it means be vigilant, but the game should be rated on its own merits, not on the developer's past. OPINION: I've heard people continuously saying the cash shop is pay-to-win. I suppose in a way this is true since the objective is to survive the elements like hunger and thirst. So yes, you can buy food and drinks with money, but anyone who has played this game and actually looked at the cash shop knows the majority of items are either cosmetic or ammo/attachments. The only useful ammo is for the M107, people spending money on anything else just ends up losing it within the hour. There really isn't a point in buying the attachments either, unless its the blackwater long range scope. Nothing in that store is literally pay-to-win, there are no guns, you still need to go out and find those. FACT: The game is full of hackers. This is a REALLY HUGE PROBLEM. The game is literally filled with hackers, don't even bother playing on the 100 slots, you may as well jump off the highest mountain and save yourself the time and trouble. The game is enjoyable if you can find a low-pop server between 5-25 players. Even then, you're just as likely to have a hacker on the server, but you're chances of meeting one are lower. OPINION: The zombies are shitty. I was there at the beginning, and I have to say they really improved on the zombies. I remember when the zombies literally didn't move or ran in place and were invincible. Thats pretty game-breaking. Since then, they've made them hit harder, chase longer, react to bullet fire better, and they've added a crazy amount of them in major cities, so many infact that it pisses me off at times. Of course you can just try to out-run them, but I feel like they make it so you actually have to deal with them now, as opposed to just ignoring them in early versions. OPINION: This game is a direct copy of Day-Z I've played Day-Z... this is nothing like it except that it has the same theme, zombie survival. Day-Z has far more realism interweaved within the gameplay. This is like.. the Call of Duty version of Day-Z. It's really arcadey, things are much easier to find, and you can tell that the whole point of the game is to go out and shoot other players. Thats probably a design decision, they have a cash shop, they want you to die with your cash shop items so that you go out and buy more cash shop items. It's a business, they need to make their money some how. If you want realism stay with Day-Z, this has such a low skill entry point, but that's not necessarily a flaw, it's simply more accessible. Also, I'm almost positive this game was NOT in development before Day-Z, but that's a different story. OPINION: This is a clone of War-Inc Have you actually played War Inc? I did, its shit. I don't know why this keeps being mentioned, "It's War Inc. with zombies". It uses the same engine if thats what you mean? A lot of development studios reuse assets and engines/code. Do you know how much work goes into making assets especially for a relatively small company? It's a lot. The game is nothing like War Inc except that they look similar in some aspects, other than that they are completely different games. OPINION: This game is ugly Well it's certainly not Crysis. Generally the game doesn't look half bad, albeit there are weird water effects and some textures look atrocious. But overall, it's sufficient for what it does. FACT: Walking sucks. Walking sucks. But I've heard vehicles are eventually being added at some point, I have no idea how that aspect of the game is going to work. Pray they aren't reusing code from Big Rigs. FACT: They were removed from steam Yes. They royally screwed the pooch when they mentioned features that weren't in game and had screenshots depicting elements of the game that were not in the game at all. The image of the zombies climbing the fence.. yeah that doesn't happen. They aren't PERMANENTLY removed though, they still have a page up there, its just that they had their ability to sell the game on steam revoked until they meet the standards Steam approves. Not sure if they will ever meet that standard. OPINION: They blacklist people who ask for a refund, ban people who play the game alot/talk shit about it. What do people care if they are blacklisted by them. You didn't like the game enough to get a refund, so you don't really have a reason to buy anything from them. You didn't miss out on anything with your money back, be free of the torment. This business about people being banned for no reason or speaking out, if its absolutely true, its the shadiest of shades for a company, and I wouldn't risk buying a $50 pack on this game. That being said, I bought a legendary pack since alpha, and I'm still around today. If you don't feel safe with this company, don't buy in. Simple as that. They may very well be crooks, but I don't know enough about this issue to comment any further on it. FACT: They've been doing updates consistently since release of alpha. It's true. Coming from day one to now, they actually changed a significant amount of the game for the better. Whether or not they keep it up, only time can tell. They called their recent release a "foundation build", which I guess means its a stable version of the game with the basic elements that make up the play functional (zombies work, guns work, collision fixes, no flying up the side of buildings, cash shop basic stuff, clans, full map, 100 player servers). These things really are the foundation of the game, the most basic of the basic. Hopefully they keep adding like the skill-tree they said they would have and the npc's which protect against bandits, and private servers, cars, the new map California, etc. CONCLUSION: I think it was worth the money I put in, but I knew the risks and what the game had to offer intially. It's fun, it's not realistic or like Day-Z at all, its a time waster, don't take it too seriously. The people are murderers, there is a problem with hackers and the company may or may not be literally Hitler. I hope this overview of the game gives you all a better understanding of what the game actually has to offer. I'll answer any more questions people ask. |
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1/03/13 1:16:35 AM#32
My problems with the game: 1.) After all of the changes to the game, they still have not updated any of their "unofficial" FAQs on the game. It still calls War Z a "MMORPG", knowing that the only MMORPG-like aspect of this game is "experience" (xp unlocks other playable models - no other benefit at this time). They still reference quite a few older changes, such as 24 hour respawn times and that this game is close to unhackable, with the exception of a possible wall hack. Anybody with a half of a brain can search youtube and find a slew of hacks for this game. They need to put out a serious FAQ for people interested in the game, not something "unofficial" that does not reflect the current state of the game.
2.) The PvE element to this game is very thin. Kill generic-looking zombies that are horribly programmed. Its a challenge to do so with a melee weapon, but zombies become trivial with any firearm. They move slower than players, take (mostly) direct lines to reach you (I watched zombies run around short fences and curbs multiple times), and only take a shot to the head to drop. If you run from zombies (which is very easy to do), they stop chasing after you after you reach a safe distance, typically around 30 feet or so. After they stop chasing, they just stand there, frozen. At this point, they typically forget about their "pack mentality" and are easily picked off one by one.
3.) They above would be enough to hold my attention for a few hours, devising different ways to kill zombies (shooting them in the head, leading them off of cliffs, maybe a couple of hits with a candy cane) but the hackers come into play. Out of the time I did play, I did not die once to a legit player. My first death: I just fell over. With the camer panning around my body, I could watch me get riddled with bullets, but no gunshots or any other person nearby. My second death came to the hands a bit more devious - I slipped on a rock and fell about 6 feet... to my death. I think my character's heart was in his foot and I stepped on a needle or something. My third death was the most annoying: dying as I entered the game world. When the screen finished loading, I was already hurt and was dead within a second after that.
After reading on the forums (plus browsing youtube), I understand people are having the same issues - mostly rampant hacking. I can not recommend any game (or developer) that does not take its audience seriously. The hacks used are the same ones for WarInc - naturally since it runs on the same engine - yet they have not announced any preventative measure or even acknowledged that it even exists (or deny it, like their unofficial FAQ). |
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1/03/13 1:29:45 AM#33
Originally posted by TheScavenger I don't care about this game at all. First of all, I don't like it's name. War Z? Very low, ignorant looking name. In fact I don't know what this game is like, I haven't searched about this game, I just heared this "War Z" name a few times. I just don't like it, to begine with its immature name which implies game's contents must be immature also. That's why I dont't like this game even though I know nothing about this game at all. I kindly explained why I don't like this game, now it's time for you to say some appreciation to me for this precious knowledge. Next time you guys can make a better game than this garbage. |
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1/03/13 1:33:16 PM#34
Here are 75 reasons why I don't like The WarZ.......... because:
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1/03/13 1:35:19 PM#35
Originally posted by dollada06 Quoted for TRUTH. |
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1/03/13 1:44:26 PM#36
Originally posted by TheScavenger So lets see, you are asking if I can ignore... 1) The false advertising 2) The use of others work claiming it as their own 3) The threats made to players asking for refunds 4) The lieing after caught and blaming players and readers instead 5) The lieing about the state of the game "It's not in Alpha even though many screens in game tell you it's still in Alpha" 6) The constant double talk 7) The fact that I'd actually have to pay to play the Alpha version of the game 8) The assinine things they put on the cash shop
If I could ignore all of that, if none of that existed, whats keeping me from playing? Why NOTHING! I'd try it out in a heart beat. Which of course is why I'm looking forward to DayZ lol... |
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1/04/13 12:50:45 PM#37
Ah WarZ, so many reasons to love you. With all the issues with the game such as hacking, lack of content, lame zombies, Steam (need I say more?), the top priority for WarZ?..... Katanas... really, I can't make this crap up.
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Thank you WarZ. |
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1/05/13 8:54:05 AM#38
The game isn't in alpha, and at the time of your original post it wasn't in alpha, or beta. It's fully released now, with promises (potentially empty) of updates in the future. Also you can't just ignore how a company interacts with it's playerbase, because even if the game was good if the company closes down due to horrible relations with customers you would have wasted your money.
As others have stated already:
1)Hacking is rampant 2)Game is a PvP hack filled gank fest with little if any zombie interaction 3)Missing features that were promised. When they say "private servers, skills and levels" but they don't have those things, YOU misread it. 4) This: http://i.imgur.com/rmaZv.jpg 5)Complete rip off from Day Z trying to capitalize on their success. Nothing wrong with that specifically....but be honest about it. Don't lie and say the game was in development for years. There is even a post from one of their developers on another forum asking the readers if they would be interested in a full standalone zombie game like Day Z, because they had the resources to start working on one. That was in May of 2012. |
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1/05/13 1:53:47 PM#39
Forgot to mention this in my last post:
They can not figure out how to create or work an anti-cheat into their game. Their first attempt at an "anti-cheat" was to place marked items in sections where they felt players could not reach. Anybody that touched the item would eventually get banned. With this silly idea, a hacker would get the item and eventually die to a legit player, passing this item around the community. Legit players ended up getting banned for this. Also, some of the items that were marked were actually accessible to anybody without a cheat, leading to more players getting unjustly banned. Their second wave of "anti-cheat" is about the same right now. Lots of people on their support forums are banned permanently with no explanation. Players need to submit a ticket to review their case and then request a reason for their ban via e-mail.
Why can't they just hire a 3rd party to help them with this? They are already losing a significant amount of players to random bans on legit players. |
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1/05/13 2:01:31 PM#40
Because it's a cash grab game. It originally had nothing to do with zombies and was retrofitted to ride the Day Z wave. The developers are shams.
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