It may be a sandbox, it may have a large world, it may very well have the largest city in any game ever made, it may have housing, it may have a player economy, it may have good crafting...it doesnt have a good story nor does it have great gameplay.

The two things not being spoken about...the story and the actual gameplay. Much like the much touted "dodge" in Tera combat, the combat in AoW is a one trick poney that doesnt really do anything to enhance gameplay...added to a story that doesnt mean a thing, like Teras, AoW is not going to hold many people in Western nations...especially when you throw in that it isnt bringing anything new to the genre, nor doing any one thing better than other MMORPGs.

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Torvaldr

I never said anything about tricking.  It's a simple question.  The game is in soft launch.  Will the free play system remain as it is with time restrictions or will it be different?  What is the payment system going to be like?  What will be accessible and what will be restricted?

You know, for answers that are just one click away no one seems to be able to answer my question.  You can imagine the frustration I'm sure.

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2628

Thank you.  I will keep watching this.

Originally posted by jtcgs

It may be a sandbox, it may have a large world, it may very well have the largest city in any game ever made, it may have housing, it may have a player economy, it may have good crafting...it doesnt have a good story nor does it have great gameplay.

The two things not being spoken about...the story and the actual gameplay. Much like the much touted "dodge" in Tera combat, the combat in AoW is a one trick poney that doesnt really do anything to enhance gameplay...added to a story that doesnt mean a thing, like Teras, AoW is not going to hold many people in Western nations...especially when you throw in that it isnt bringing anything new to the genre, nor doing any one thing better than other MMORPGs.

Will it break records in the west? nope.  But then its not a COD, instant gratification, hand holding, or a solo everything affair so for those reasons alone it will be niche in the western market.  EVE is niche and it is doing just fine and I expect AoW will be just fine as well.  Word of mouth on the whole is positive and cash shops are becoming common place.

Originally posted by elocke
Just like I said on the Massively article. the game has massive potential and all the right features, but again, it fails in the UI/Control department so much that I can't consider it a good game.  If those things change, and I would be glad to try the game out once they do, then I'll change my tune.  Until then, it's another easter F2P that doesn't get the control/UI character feedback that the west craves.

Control? Whats wrong with it? Flying and doing acrobatic tricks is awesome, no issues here

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by elocke
Just like I said on the Massively article. the game has massive potential and all the right features, but again, it fails in the UI/Control department so much that I can't consider it a good game.  If those things change, and I would be glad to try the game out once they do, then I'll change my tune.  Until then, it's another easter F2P that doesn't get the control/UI character feedback that the west craves.

Control? Whats wrong with it? Flying and doing acrobatic tricks is awesome, no issues here

It's how you do it, not the actual tricks and acrobats.  It's the clicking a button to make them happen as opposed to just hitting space a few times in succession.  It ends up making me fumble with the controls and isn't familiar at all and from what I can tell so far, unchangeable in the settings.

After I got to... 

Cash shop catastrophe, part one and Cash shop catastrophe, part deux

in the article I lost any and all interest... 

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by elocke
Just like I said on the Massively article. the game has massive potential and all the right features, but again, it fails in the UI/Control department so much that I can't consider it a good game.  If those things change, and I would be glad to try the game out once they do, then I'll change my tune.  Until then, it's another easter F2P that doesn't get the control/UI character feedback that the west craves.

Control? Whats wrong with it? Flying and doing acrobatic tricks is awesome, no issues here

It's how you do it, not the actual tricks and acrobats.  It's the clicking a button to make them happen as opposed to just hitting space a few times in succession.  It ends up making me fumble with the controls and isn't familiar at all and from what I can tell so far, unchangeable in the settings.

wait what? Hitting space a few times in succession is exactly how you do it,

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by elocke
Just like I said on the Massively article. the game has massive potential and all the right features, but again, it fails in the UI/Control department so much that I can't consider it a good game.  If those things change, and I would be glad to try the game out once they do, then I'll change my tune.  Until then, it's another easter F2P that doesn't get the control/UI character feedback that the west craves.

Control? Whats wrong with it? Flying and doing acrobatic tricks is awesome, no issues here

It's how you do it, not the actual tricks and acrobats.  It's the clicking a button to make them happen as opposed to just hitting space a few times in succession.  It ends up making me fumble with the controls and isn't familiar at all and from what I can tell so far, unchangeable in the settings.

wait what? Hitting space a few times in succession is exactly how you do it,

For the first couple skills anyways.

But really space + space = double jump. space + space + space = double jump into whirlwind jump

space + double tap and hold direction (wasd) = jump and dash in that direction

From there shift and control become the modifiers for everything else, and yes, you can press esc and change the keybinds.

but how is this game sandboxy?

you dont loose anything when you die, sure you can pk ppl like in any other game and you get red name nothing more

this doesnt make it a sandbox

Originally posted by saurus123

but how is this game sandboxy?

 

you dont loose anything when you die, sure you can pk ppl like in any other game and you get red name nothing more

this doesnt make it a sandbox

Do you even know what a Sandbox game is?

the reason you listed dont make a sandbox game.  Open world PVP, no classes, no levels, no direction, player economy, player houseing, indepth crafting those are main sandbox characteristics. Don't troll b/c you don't like that game.

Originally posted by jtcgs

It may be a sandbox, it may have a large world, it may very well have the largest city in any game ever made, it may have housing, it may have a player economy, it may have good crafting...it doesnt have a good story nor does it have great gameplay.

The two things not being spoken about...the story and the actual gameplay. Much like the much touted "dodge" in Tera combat, the combat in AoW is a one trick poney that doesnt really do anything to enhance gameplay...added to a story that doesnt mean a thing, like Teras, AoW is not going to hold many people in Western nations...especially when you throw in that it isnt bringing anything new to the genre, nor doing any one thing better than other MMORPGs.

A lot of people are not interested in story in their MMOs. They want a world where they can build their own story and don't feel restrained by what some dev thought was a cool "you're the hero of awesome" storyline. They don't like having to run errands for NPCs and grind stupid mobs to advance.

One of the recent major trainwrecks of MMO history (SWTOR) proves that a heavy focus on story is detrimental for the long-time health of an MMO. A virtual world-style game primarily needs multiple tools for meaningful player interaction, not hours of scripted story content that isolates the player from the rest of the world.

AoW is not about story, it's about interacting with other players and participating in the player-run world. You can of course play it like a generic PvE game too if you like since there are thousands of quests. You'll miss the major attractions of the game but it's certainly possible.

As for the gameplay, it may not appeal to everyone but that's not necessarily a problem. Martial arts combat with flying skills is a unique and pretty addicting playstyle once you get into it. Together with the oPvP and overall depth/complexity of the game, it will attract and hold a commmited niche playerbase, much like EVE. Thank god for that, we don't want the WoW hordes and content locusts around anyway.

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by elocke
Just like I said on the Massively article. the game has massive potential and all the right features, but again, it fails in the UI/Control department so much that I can't consider it a good game.  If those things change, and I would be glad to try the game out once they do, then I'll change my tune.  Until then, it's another easter F2P that doesn't get the control/UI character feedback that the west craves.

Control? Whats wrong with it? Flying and doing acrobatic tricks is awesome, no issues here

It's how you do it, not the actual tricks and acrobats.  It's the clicking a button to make them happen as opposed to just hitting space a few times in succession.  It ends up making me fumble with the controls and isn't familiar at all and from what I can tell so far, unchangeable in the settings.

wait what? Hitting space a few times in succession is exactly how you do it,

Yeah i thought that myself but the fact is he hasn't even played the game lol. When someone comments on a game they have not played how can we take them seriously.

Have you notice he didn't reply to your post lol.

Originally posted by Walic

Originally posted by saurus123

but how is this game sandboxy?

 

you dont loose anything when you die, sure you can pk ppl like in any other game and you get red name nothing more

this doesnt make it a sandbox

Do you even know what a Sandbox game is?

 

the reason you listed dont make a sandbox game.  Open world PVP, no classes, no levels, no direction, player economy, player houseing, indepth crafting those are main sandbox characteristics. Don't troll b/c you don't like that game.

It's missing an important defining feature of a true sandbox. Thus some of us will deny calling it a sandbox.

Not everyone is a troll for having his own opinion. You'll have to live with it.

Originally posted by StarI

Originally posted by Walic

Originally posted by saurus123

but how is this game sandboxy?

 

you dont loose anything when you die, sure you can pk ppl like in any other game and you get red name nothing more

this doesnt make it a sandbox

Do you even know what a Sandbox game is?

 

the reason you listed dont make a sandbox game.  Open world PVP, no classes, no levels, no direction, player economy, player houseing, indepth crafting those are main sandbox characteristics. Don't troll b/c you don't like that game.

 

It's missing an important defining feature of a true sandbox. Thus some of us will deny calling it a sandbox.

Not everyone is a troll for having his own opinion. You'll have to live with it.

And what is that feature?

Anyway Age Of Wushu is a hybrid mmo just like ArcheAge and Vanguard, it's not a totally sandbox but its close.