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  Methos12

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/05/08
Posts: 1200

Its better to be quiet and perceived as stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

12/30/12 10:24:14 AM#21
Originally posted by Heretique
I'll check it out if it's F2P.

I'd settle for B2P.

Nature without Technology is little more than animals running about.
Nature without Magic is without wonder or miracle.
.........
Magic without Technology is fantasy.
Magic without Nature is formless and useless.
.........
Technology without Nature is application without understanding.
Technology without Magic is repetitious and uninventive.

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/30/12 10:29:20 AM#22
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

For those saying NCSoft is on the "do not buy list" due to game closures... 

 

SOE - closed down the following major games

Star Wars Galaxies

EverQuest Online Adventures

The Matrix Online

 

NCSoft -  closed down the following major games

Tabula Rasa

City of Heros

 

EA - I can't be bothered to list games closed by EA. This is something they are simply known for. They've even closed down servers for games shortly after launch. They have yet to do so with an MMO, but SWTOR looks like it will be added to that list shortly. Other than SWTOR, the only MMO's they have are Warhammer, UO and DAoC. UO and DAoC have a healthy following and have since their respective launches. Thats the only reason they are still going. Warhammer has been losing servers on a regular basis and looks like it will receive the axe as well. 

EA has a history of closing games down. So... 

 

 

 

Whats that leave us with? 

 

Funcom and a bunch of f2p publishers? 

 

I saw your weasel word... ^^ NCsofts total is rather more than just those two.  But I guess the other three or four aren't "major" games?... ^^

I totally agree that EA is the worst of the lot.  Start with Earth and Beyond and go from there. 

As for Funcom... You do remember that Anarchy Online had one of THE worst launches of any of the "major" MMO's? Then of course there was Age of Conan...(face palm).

But NCsoft tends to stand out, because they tend to close western games, at a much earlier time, than eastern games.  I suspect its because of their CEO.

Only time will tell if Carbine, and their players will regret their choice of NCsoft as their publisher.

I actually opted to use "Major" because EA, SOE and NCSoft all had pretty high closing numbers lol. Was simply easier to address the more popular games. 

 

I wasn't advocating funcom, I was simply saying if we rule out those that have closed down games thats what we are left with lol. 

 

In the end, I personally feel any developer not self publishing should regret their choice of publisher. In todays age there not as overly needed as they were in days past. With digital distribution being such a big thing now and advertising for gaming being an easy thing to accomplish there isn't a great need for publishers. There is still need, but it isn't as great as it once was. 

 

  Four0Six

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Joined: 12/18/11
Posts: 1091

12/30/12 10:31:59 AM#23

I am a capitalist. If you so choose search my post history, you will find this is a common theme.

Being such, I choose to "vote with my wallet". I was eager to see how Wildstar developed, but after NC shut down CIty with such careless disrespect, I will not.

Many share my feeling on this.

Sorry NC.

 

Edit: Let me jsut add, I have zero issue paying a sub, If the game and company are quality enough.

  Icewhite

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Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

12/30/12 10:45:04 AM#24

Gamer Communities tend to react poorly to corporate control.

Remember Bobby Kotick and B.net+Facebook+Privacy Issues?  From a public relations standpoint, botched completely from day one.  And easily the longest-running thread in WoW General (historically the home of enormous firestorms) History.

Resulting in "outing" of several Blizzard employees (including Kotick's family) to personal abuses from angry gamers on the internet.

 

The forum/internet culture may simply have degenerated beyond any direct control less than a machiavellian police state.

The typical corporate responses may be exactly what you should be avoiding. An unusual amount of openness and honesty at the corporate level tends to make for a happy forum.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Tuchaka

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/14/10
Posts: 458

12/30/12 1:21:24 PM#25
deffinately wanna check this game out , i really like what the blizzard spin-off companies are doing in general but ya i wish someone other than NCSoft was backing it but ohh well i won't let that stop me from checking it out.
  Gnitepracdlo

Novice Member

Joined: 10/11/06
Posts: 4

12/30/12 2:41:46 PM#26

 

NCSoft -  closed down the following major games

Tabula Rasa

City of Heros

 

you forgot auto assault

 
  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/30/12 2:58:07 PM#27
Originally posted by Gnitepracdlo

 

NCSoft -  closed down the following major games

Tabula Rasa

City of Heros

 

you forgot auto assault

 

I was just sticking to major games. Listing all the minor games shutdown from each company would become a project on it's own. 

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5668

12/30/12 3:04:10 PM#28
Originally posted by Methos12
Originally posted by Heretique
I'll check it out if it's F2P.

I'd settle for B2P.

Me too.  I've been following the game and will likely purchase it if it's B2P.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Ice-Queen

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Joined: 1/02/08
Posts: 2434

"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

12/30/12 4:14:55 PM#29

Hope it ends up being a good game and I hope it has a monthly subscription fee. I'd really rather not play another crap B2P or FtP mmorpg with cash shops, if I can help it. I'm very interested in the housing system for Wildstar.

The more I watch about WildStar the more worried I get. It seems more and more like handholding you through the gameplay, sadly.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  rommello

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Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 204

hallo ~_~

12/30/12 4:59:50 PM#30

they shut down exteel

never play another game by them again

hallo ~_~

  Alberel

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Joined: 12/02/09
Posts: 1121

12/30/12 5:08:31 PM#31
Originally posted by Xstatic912
So there is a hate out on NCsoft, and as such some won't give the game a chance..
I didn't see that when GW2 hype was building..

Sad times we live in.

That's because ANet always said that despite being published by NCSoft they were given free reign with development, which was true up until release. Post-release the direction of the game suddenly changed and I don't think many can deny that NCSoft had started interfering with development.

Many people didn't trust NCSoft before GW2 and a lot more will refuse to trust them now.

  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3565

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

12/30/12 6:13:04 PM#32
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Xstatic912
So there is a hate out on NCsoft, and as such some won't give the game a chance..
I didn't see that when GW2 hype was building..

Sad times we live in.

That's because ANet always said that despite being published by NCSoft they were given free reign with development, which was true up until release. Post-release the direction of the game suddenly changed and I don't think many can deny that NCSoft had started interfering with development.

Many people didn't trust NCSoft before GW2 and a lot more will refuse to trust them now.

I'm not quite certain what game the NCsoft CEO is playing at this point.  Having spent some time in Korea, I suspect I know at least part of the problem, but without having met him, I can't be certain.  What I do know is that any western studio that picks NCsoft as a publisher, given its past history, is either ignorant or desperate (or both).  Neither bode well for the studio or its players.

Especially not now that Nexon is NCsofts largest share holder.  Nexon makes NCsoft look saintly.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-08/nexon-buys-685-million-stake-in-ncsoft-becomes-biggest-holder.html

  BartDaCat

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Posts: 817

Gamer Forums, where "First World Problems" are our specialty!

12/31/12 2:56:11 AM#33
Originally posted by rommello

they shut down exteel

never play another game by them again

Exteel, Dungeon Runners, City of Heroes/City of Villains... I'm surprised GW1 lasted as long as it did.  I hope the folks at Carbine know what they're getting themselves into.  Nexon... *shudder*

  Silverbranch

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Joined: 10/31/10
Posts: 183

Wherever you go, there you are.

12/31/12 6:06:18 AM#34

Ah, the Evils of Living on Credit . . . being beholden to another.

 

Company, organization, or individual, the potential trap is the same.

Wherever you go, there you are.

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