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  evilized

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 565

12/28/12 10:17:39 AM#41
Originally posted by expresso

I wonder how many people on this thread talking about how bad they think D3 is have.....

  1. Even the played the game to begin with or are simply on the Blizz hate bandwagon
  2. Know about the changes and additions that have been made\added post launch
  3. Stuck in the year 2000 and think games should not evolve past that time frame
  4. Even know how the RMHA works or indeed how it will NOT effect them 1 little bit
  5. Think D3 was designed as a single player game with always on DRM added later
Here are my answers
 
  1. 50%
  2. 20%
  3. 10%
  4. 20%
  5. 60%
 

 

1. played it, beat it, bored within 15 hours.

2. yes, too little too late and really didn't change much as the real issues are with the core design of the game and not just "i need more MF!"

3. i think some companies should take a hard look at that time frame to be honest, they seem to have forgotten quite a bit in the last 10-15 years.

4. AH/RMAH only helped ruin D3. it added nothing to the game, only detracted from users interacting with one another. trading and barter was one of the biggest if not the biggest meta game within the diablo franchise; dead in D3 due to AH/RMAH.

5. diablo 3 should have remained a single player game at its core, with multiplayer options. there was absolutely no reason to make the game 100% online past blizzard wanting people to have to click past the RMAH every time they went into a new game.

 
 
*the prevailing thought these days in game design seems to be "how can we milk every user for all they are worth" rather than "how can we create a game that is so much fun that everyone will want to play it?" Yes, the first option is the safest in investor's minds, but how many games made with that mindset have made it past the 3 month mark with a majority of their customer base still in-tact? exactly none.
 
  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5212

12/28/12 10:29:32 AM#42
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  evilized

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 565

12/28/12 10:34:11 AM#43
Originally posted by zymurgeist
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

And why did Bliz sell so many copies? Name recognition. The game is bad and 11-12 million people know it.

 

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5212

12/28/12 10:40:33 AM#44
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

And why did Bliz sell so many copies? Name recognition. The game is bad and 11-12 million people know it.

 

 Care to explain how you can speak for every person who bought the game?

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  evilized

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 565

12/28/12 10:43:13 AM#45
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

And why did Bliz sell so many copies? Name recognition. The game is bad and 11-12 million people know it.

 

 Care to explain how you can speak for every person who bought the game?

I don't have to, go read the (non IGN) reviews. Also log in and look at the amount of people playing, then imagine how many of those are actually just bots used for selling stuff on the RMAH. I'll give you a hint: a lot.

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5212

12/28/12 10:51:39 AM#46
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

And why did Bliz sell so many copies? Name recognition. The game is bad and 11-12 million people know it.

 

 Care to explain how you can speak for every person who bought the game?

I don't have to, go read the (non IGN) reviews. Also log in and look at the amount of people playing, then imagine how many of those are actually just bots used for selling stuff on the RMAH. I'll give you a hint: a lot.

 Yeah thought you wouldn't be able to. The gold rush at the RMAH is basically dead. The game has been selling well for a long time now. It's not just name recognition any more. This PvP announcement won't help sales but it probably won't hurt them either. People buying now just want to play the game.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  evilized

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 565

12/28/12 1:29:07 PM#47
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by evilized
Originally posted by zymurgeist
News Flash. PC game "everyone" hates sells between 11 and 12 million copies in nine months. Yeah it must be a really bad game to be so popular. PoE and TL2 will be lucky to sell half that many combined. Honestly I think even Blizzard is overestimating the importance of PvP to what is essentially a single player game.

And why did Bliz sell so many copies? Name recognition. The game is bad and 11-12 million people know it.

 

 Care to explain how you can speak for every person who bought the game?

I don't have to, go read the (non IGN) reviews. Also log in and look at the amount of people playing, then imagine how many of those are actually just bots used for selling stuff on the RMAH. I'll give you a hint: a lot.

 Yeah thought you wouldn't be able to. The gold rush at the RMAH is basically dead. The game has been selling well for a long time now. It's not just name recognition any more. This PvP announcement won't help sales but it probably won't hurt them either. People buying now just want to play the game.

I was pointing out that I don't have to because they are speaking for themselves. Anyway it seems that you are one of the tens of people still playing the game and enjoying it. Good for you I guess.

  Dauzqul

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Joined: 2/10/12
Posts: 1318

12/28/12 4:47:13 PM#48
Diablo 1 and 2 were ahead of their time. Diablo 3 is so far behind. There really is nothing innovative about it.... other than a few days of D1/D2 nostalgia.
  tocsix

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Joined: 11/06/12
Posts: 10

12/28/12 8:29:45 PM#49

I am playing Diablo 3 again but only because i have a friend who im currently enjoying messing around in the game with.

I think with thew addition of paragon levels, ubers and loot being adjusted with items that are supposed to be powerful actually being just that,  they have fixed some broken elements that made me not care to play.with monster levels some of the bosses can be made into real badasses and are quite fun to beat. Without a really good pvp system though i do feel like chasing that epic gear really is a waste of time and there is no real carrot on the stick to try deck out a character to the max unless you can smash live players.Dueling will be fun but it just doesnt cut it.

 

I still have hope for this game and i enjoy it in my spare time for what it is anyways.

 

 

 

  Szkieletor

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Joined: 9/17/09
Posts: 36

12/29/12 12:13:56 PM#50

Blizzard just lost it.

 

They are not capable of making good games anymore, it is just going to be more of the same. So, if you liked WoW, Diablo3, SC2 singleplayer, then just wait for a similar game with a new name from them ;]

  Sukiyaki

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Joined: 8/14/09
Posts: 1348

12/29/12 12:49:34 PM#51

Dont worry knowing Blizzard without carrying roseyed googles, I am sure this is not the end yet.

Maybe 2014 when the game is borderline dead even in the US they will announce their"when its done" PvP for freee

And then a paid D3 expansion that will by design force everyone to move to PvP grounds exclusive  to expansion owner... forcing you to buy the expansion out of your free will if you dont want to play gimped.

And it will be horribly bugged and exploitable, so they can push back real content to later dates and fill some months with "balance" patches.

  Volmok

Novice Member

Joined: 6/22/12
Posts: 64

12/30/12 3:04:06 AM#52

Blizzard has lost (or fired) their skilled staff.

D3 is he result of average game designers and devs that think way too much for themselves; working in this area I see it way to often and it saddens me every time.

 

I think Blizzard would be better if they associate with EA .... the hunger for money is great for both of them :)

  FrodoFragins

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Joined: 4/29/10
Posts: 2804

12/30/12 4:33:31 AM#53
I don't understand how Jay Wilson still has his job.  Sure the game sold a lot of copies, but that was thanks to the Diablo franchise and there being literally no competition in the genre.
  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 1160

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/30/12 4:39:49 AM#54
People want to add pvp to single player games and take it out of mmorpg's........... i just dont understand this community at all these days.
  expresso

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Joined: 3/10/10
Posts: 2178

1/03/13 4:03:10 PM#55
If they do go the root of MOBA style PvP I think it will work really well in the D3 engine, the combat in D3 is very responsive and viseral I can see my barb leaping at a group of creeps, cleaving then backing out.
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