Definately not holding my breath for this one. Seems they've gone from a confused mess of a game to a straight up WoW clone based in a Final Fantasy world.

Hopefully they'll prove me wrong. My inner Nostalgian cries that the Final Fantasy franchise has gone so downhill in recent years. 

Originally posted by umcorian

Definately not holding my breath for this one. Seems they've gone from a confused mess of a game to a straight up WoW clone based in a Final Fantasy world.

Hopefully they'll prove me wrong. My inner Nostalgian cries that the Final Fantasy franchise has gone so downhill in recent years. 

Incorperating elements of standard (or WoW if you like) mmos was what players wanted after the alien state of XIV at launch, but there are a lot of elements that are not WoW like. If it still turns out to be too much WoW for some, its a price they have to pay to prevent a repeat of last time.

This isnt like the makers of Rift or SWTOR that played it too safe with 2 or 3 WoW elements too many, even for many WoW fans, Yoshida and his team are learning from scratch in an out-of-touch culture and need a solid mainstream base to work off.

Originally posted by Epic1oots

Originally posted by atticusbc
cool. so mid 2013 release then. i'm looking foward to arr mostly to see if they can pull it off.

Highly doubt its gonna be mid 2013. At most probably late march.

I would not expect this game before E3. Logically speaking that is the perfect launch for US and EU. Beta phase 1 only starts in mid Feb and could last 4 weeks. So I beleve earliest launch by that roadmap would be Late April early May. And I would not expect that. Yoshi-P will take his time with the release to make sure everything is absolutly correct!

Originally posted by Majin_Jubei

Originally posted by Phrame

I'm curious: what's so exciting about level sync?

Phase 4 being an Open Beta is good I guess, people will get to try the game out before deciding to purchase.

Makes finding/making parties a bit easier as people outside your level range (ie those who are higher than you, or in some cases lower if you wish) can still group with you. 

Driven: It's 8 character slots per server not 6.

OH crap my bad lol.

Originally posted by zevni78

Originally posted by umcorian

Definately not holding my breath for this one. Seems they've gone from a confused mess of a game to a straight up WoW clone based in a Final Fantasy world.

Hopefully they'll prove me wrong. My inner Nostalgian cries that the Final Fantasy franchise has gone so downhill in recent years. 

Incorperating elements of standard (or WoW if you like) mmos was what players wanted after the alien state of XIV at launch, but there are a lot of elements that are not WoW like. If it still turns out to be too much WoW for some, its a price they have to pay to prevent a repeat of last time.

 

This isnt like the makers of Rift or SWTOR that played it too safe with 2 or 3 WoW elements too many, even for many WoW fans, Yoshida and his team are learning from scratch in an out-of-touch culture and need a solid mainstream base to work off.

Thing is, most WoW clones have done pretty poorly. To call Rift a success is probably overselling it and SWTOR was nothing short of a catastrophic flop that lost EA millions (last I heard, it was about 400 million to produce/market). 

The fact this is a WoW clone after factoring in the cost of redevelopment is probably going to cost  Square Enix so much they'll never think of developing an MMO again.  

Originally posted by umcorian

Originally posted by zevni78

Originally posted by umcorian

Definately not holding my breath for this one. Seems they've gone from a confused mess of a game to a straight up WoW clone based in a Final Fantasy world.

Hopefully they'll prove me wrong. My inner Nostalgian cries that the Final Fantasy franchise has gone so downhill in recent years. 

Incorperating elements of standard (or WoW if you like) mmos was what players wanted after the alien state of XIV at launch, but there are a lot of elements that are not WoW like. If it still turns out to be too much WoW for some, its a price they have to pay to prevent a repeat of last time.

 

This isnt like the makers of Rift or SWTOR that played it too safe with 2 or 3 WoW elements too many, even for many WoW fans, Yoshida and his team are learning from scratch in an out-of-touch culture and need a solid mainstream base to work off.

 

Thing is, most WoW clones have done pretty poorly. To call Rift a success is probably overselling it and SWTOR was nothing short of a catastrophic flop that lost EA millions (last I heard, it was about 400 million to produce/market). 

The fact this is a WoW clone after factoring in the cost of redevelopment is probably going to cost  Square Enix so much they'll never think of developing an MMO again.  

 

As many have said alot of swotors and other games short comings were of their own making lack of endgame, voice acting on ever single quest and you can't skip it, buggs that stuck around long after release etc . So I have to disagree and to me as long as they have enough subs to make money they are a success

Originally posted by atticusbc
cool. so mid 2013 release then. i'm looking foward to arr mostly to see if they can pull it off.

They have no choice but to pull it off. Or else they can forget about AAR and foucs on ARR... A Reputation Restored.