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  Theocritus

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12/27/12 6:56:12 PM#21
    You know you have a bad game if you cant make money in Japan or Korea....The Asians usually love their gaming.
  Pivotelite

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12/27/12 7:02:18 PM#22
Originally posted by Theocritus
    You know you have a bad game if you cant make money in Japan or Korea....The Asians usually love their gaming.

  That's an odd assumption. Considering theres very successful games in NA that are complete flops in Korea, different markets. Not to mention LoL is doing the same thing in Korea as it is here... completely consuming everything.

  Sukiyaki

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12/27/12 7:05:03 PM#23
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
So many server do they have left in Korea/Japan? Any mergers announced? All I know is they went below 2% share in the Korean (M)MORPG market, but right now I cant find the serverlist on the Korean site. Thats below multiple complete no-name grinder title.
 

 Eh, TERA is still in the top 6 most played MMOs from the Korean sites i've recently browsed. 18th game overall last week for players.

 

But both Japan and Koreas F2P test servers were so successful they couldnt help but pursue the model to its fullest extent.

TERA is last place of of the 10 most played Korean MMOs and that doesnt even include action MOGs and it popped out of the top 20 online games already months ago... thats after that super successfull F2P test... when was that "recently"? A year ago? It allready on par with overhyped superflop Star Craft 2.

I was asking for their servernumbers and existing schedules, not some made up offworld stuff you would love to believe.

http://www.gamenote.com/rank_ongame/?search_mode=weekly

 

TERA just dropped to 20 from 18 last week, well see where it ends up after F2P goes live January 10th. I said test servers for a reason, KTERA launched one server with moderate restrictions and capped at level 58, the server is usually mid/high population so it has spurred them to go full force F2P.

 

That list is weekly average and is pushing down current no.8 nd 9 which replaced Tera. Still even by your own list its not 6th and Tera not even close to the 6th place not just by place but total of marketshare. Most MMORPG spots have difference of +100-200% to the next one. And even in your list it barely popped back to the 20s again for whatever reasons.

  Pivotelite

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12/27/12 7:06:47 PM#24
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
So many server do they have left in Korea/Japan? Any mergers announced? All I know is they went below 2% share in the Korean (M)MORPG market, but right now I cant find the serverlist on the Korean site. Thats below multiple complete no-name grinder title.
 

 Eh, TERA is still in the top 6 most played MMOs from the Korean sites i've recently browsed. 18th game overall last week for players.

 

But both Japan and Koreas F2P test servers were so successful they couldnt help but pursue the model to its fullest extent.

TERA is last place of of the 10 most played Korean MMOs and that doesnt even include action MOGs and it popped out of the top 20 online games already months ago... thats after that super successfull F2P test... when was that "recently"? A year ago? It allready on par with overhyped superflop Star Craft 2.

I was asking for their servernumbers and existing schedules, not some made up offworld stuff you would love to believe.

http://www.gamenote.com/rank_ongame/?search_mode=weekly

 

TERA just dropped to 20 from 18 last week, well see where it ends up after F2P goes live January 10th. I said test servers for a reason, KTERA launched one server with moderate restrictions and capped at level 58, the server is usually mid/high population so it has spurred them to go full force F2P.

 

That list is weekly average and is pushing down current no.8 nd 9 which replaced Tera. Still even by your own list its not 6th and Tera not even close to the 6th place not just by place but total of marketshare. Most MMORPG spots have difference of +100-200% to the next one.

 You said it dropped out of the top 20 months ago, I just pointed out it didn't. And yes the gap between MMO playerbases in korea is large, but it's large here as well, does that mean every MMO after WoW/GW2 is dead/garbage? Obviously not.

  User Deleted
12/27/12 7:11:34 PM#25
Originally posted by Theocritus
    You know you have a bad game if you cant make money in Japan or Korea....The Asians usually love their gaming.

The market is saturated, especially in South Korea with its 50 million inhabitants. 

From what I can remember, without looking how things are as of today...Aion was the Big Kahuna in S-Korea with +/- 50% of the online gaming market cornered but around the time of Blade & Soul dropped to half of what it used to have (too tired to Googlefu this right now).

What I'm trying to say is it's sink or swim for many titles over there (elsewhere too nowadays...) There are plenty of games to choose from and many don't have to put up with slow patches, shitty customer service, crappy content etc. etc.

So it doesn't have to mean that the game is "bad."

  Sukiyaki

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12/27/12 7:27:56 PM#26
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
So many server do they have left in Korea/Japan? Any mergers announced? All I know is they went below 2% share in the Korean (M)MORPG market, but right now I cant find the serverlist on the Korean site. Thats below multiple complete no-name grinder title.
 

 Eh, TERA is still in the top 6 most played MMOs from the Korean sites i've recently browsed. 18th game overall last week for players.

 

But both Japan and Koreas F2P test servers were so successful they couldnt help but pursue the model to its fullest extent.

TERA is last place of of the 10 most played Korean MMOs and that doesnt even include action MOGs and it popped out of the top 20 online games already months ago... thats after that super successfull F2P test... when was that "recently"? A year ago? It allready on par with overhyped superflop Star Craft 2.

I was asking for their servernumbers and existing schedules, not some made up offworld stuff you would love to believe.

http://www.gamenote.com/rank_ongame/?search_mode=weekly

 

TERA just dropped to 20 from 18 last week, well see where it ends up after F2P goes live January 10th. I said test servers for a reason, KTERA launched one server with moderate restrictions and capped at level 58, the server is usually mid/high population so it has spurred them to go full force F2P.

 

That list is weekly average and is pushing down current no.8 nd 9 which replaced Tera. Still even by your own list its not 6th and Tera not even close to the 6th place not just by place but total of marketshare. Most MMORPG spots have difference of +100-200% to the next one.

 You said it dropped out of the top 20 months ago, I just pointed out it didn't. And yes the gap between MMO playerbases in korea is large, but it's large here as well, does that mean every MMO after WoW/GW2 is dead/garbage? Obviously not.

It did drop out months ago by both netimo.net metrics and pcbang/gamemetics.com it never even temproarely peaked into the top 20 in the last week unlike according to your site which places still current top 9 and 8 somewhere at 60 right now. (You site is not wrong, actually its the most likely "right" one anywhere, but the averages including downtimes skew the individual daily rankings)

The difference between Tera and Blade & Soul is about as much as WoW and Star Trek Online, and later makes games like Aion and SWToR look like giant cashcows in the West. I dont even bother about the gap more than about the level of the drop since launch which closes to SC2 or SWtoR tanking.

Thats why I was asking for server counts and potential merge schedules from the very beginning not just some delusional dreams about an immensly successfull F2P switch of TERA..

  moosecatlol

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12/27/12 7:31:07 PM#27
To be fair, the game had poor balance and shallow content, the kind of content that feels that it was simply created to keep players grinding.
  Vorch

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12/28/12 2:04:27 AM#28

TERA felt worth the box price, just not the subscription.

 

I would play it alongside GW2 if it went F2P with a GOOD payment model.

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  kevjards

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12/28/12 4:36:23 AM#29
i would prefer if they just halved the sub price..i like tera even though they are mostly kill x amount of things..those BAM'S make you feel like  a god when you down them..especially when you do  em at the right lvl.the combat is fantastic imo.but what ever they decide i will occasionally log in
  Br3akingDawn

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12/28/12 4:45:58 AM#30
Figure they go this route eventually, too many B2P, F2P games thats deeper and almost better than Tera for them to stick with their Sub route. And with some upcoming releases/rereleases, they would for sure lose more player base anyways. Better go F2P/P2W now and win win on the cash shop now than nothing later.

  Purutzil

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12/28/12 5:12:43 AM#31
I do hope it goes F2P in a way. Easily the best combat in an MMO persistant world (action combat wise) just seemed to be lacking in other areas I do hope it can pick up on. Not to likely it will be well recieved though here (people tend to have the xenophobic "its an asian game" deal) though it should hopefully get enough attention to go for f2p.
  JudgeUK

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12/28/12 5:18:40 AM#32
Originally posted by Vorch

TERA felt worth the box price, just not the subscription.

 

I would play it alongside GW2 if it went F2P with a GOOD payment model.

The payment model(s) will be the critical thing here. Not sure about En Masse's reputation with ftp models. Will have to see what Gameforge comes up with over here.

As for how well Tera is doing in Korea/Japan etc etc. Suggest all bets are off until the ftp model (with new content) is up and running over there.

 
  dimnikar

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12/28/12 5:35:25 AM#33

I'm playing the unlimited trial (lvl 28 max) with my GF and we're both enjoying it. I played it during beta and loved it back then. Not subworthy, however, mostly due to time constraints.

 

This is good news, I plan to play this.

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  mysticaluna

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12/28/12 5:45:23 AM#34

I need to see Tera... I'm just to busy on other games all the time (  If it was free it would be great, because like said I need access to pay for extras like expansions and cash shop items, I'm fully willing to buy unlocks if they are permanent, but I hate swtors temporary weekly passes... Anything that supports casual instead of hardcore grinding would be great, lol... 

 

  mysticaluna

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12/28/12 5:47:17 AM#35
Subscriptions are a pain because once the sub is out you're unable to log in period... No matter if you already paid a thousand dollars on it or not for several years lol... Buy to play however would be better , if you could keep a cash shop ala Guild Wars 2 but not force restrictions on people, i'd be fully willing to pay $40 or $60 on buy to play to avoid restriction locks and subs... 
  ZombieKen

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12/28/12 6:09:51 AM#36

I'm anxious to see how this plays out for NA / EU.  If box to play works well for TSW, I could see it being considered.

 

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  bbbb42

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12/31/12 10:01:15 AM#37
:/ nice game, but felt way to shallow

  Ozmodan

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12/31/12 10:21:19 AM#38
This game should have been either b2p or f2p from the start, it never had even close to enough content to be a subscription game.  Of course Enmasse might have had to make it so because of it's contract with bluehole.  Hard to say, but definitely the wrong funding method here in the west.
  Xiaoki

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12/31/12 10:13:30 PM#39


Originally posted by XAPGames
I'm anxious to see how this plays out for NA / EU.  If box to play works well for TSW, I could see it being considered.

 



TSW also has constant updates which you have to buy, Tera's updates come much less consistently.


Tera will be Free to play with cash shop. Just hope they dont go the Freemium route of Free to play extended trial with heavy restrictions and $15 a month Premium to not suck.


If the Free to play model is good then I would definitely return.

  Novusod

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1/01/13 6:25:30 AM#40
Originally posted by Ozmodan
This game should have been either b2p or f2p from the start, it never had even close to enough content to be a subscription game.  Of course Enmasse might have had to make it so because of it's contract with bluehole.  Hard to say, but definitely the wrong funding method here in the west.

This is 100% true. TERA should have been Free 2 Play from the start.

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