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  SBFord

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OP  12/26/12 6:18:33 PM#1

Every game deserves a chance at an 'official' review, The War Z included. Even with its troubles of late, it's still a released game. We have a few thoughts to share about the upcoming review and want to get some of your input as well. Read on before leaving your thoughts in the comments.

This is a tricky situation.  I firmly believe that the ideas for The War Z put forth by Hammerpoint (the features they aspire to on their official website) are interesting and solid on paper.  But the fact of the matter is that the game is simply nowhere near what it presents itself as being in that feature list.  Normally, in alpha/beta stages, we can turn a blind eye towards some of a game’s faults because we know it’s in the testing phase and all we are seeing is a preview of things to come.  In The War Z’ case, the preview of things to come, when all that’s happened is considered, is not a promising harbinger of any sort.  And what’s more than that? Hammerpoint is considering their game now released in its “foundation” state.  The company that makes the zombie shooter MMO itself claims the game is “launched” but not final. What does that mean? Well, for us her at MMORPG.com, it means we’re obligated to put it through its paces and review the thing. 

Read more of Bill Murphy's The War Z: Review Forthcoming.

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  Terranah

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12/27/12 11:10:58 AM#2

No mention of the trademark suspension, no mention of the fact your forum graphic is copyright infringed and stolen from the TV show Walking Dead, no mention of the fraud perpetrated on Steam.

 

Way to look out for your readers.

 

 

  BillMurphy

Managing Editor

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12/27/12 11:24:16 AM#3
The review will cover all that Terranah. That's kind of the point. ;) And we did news each and every one of those things in editorials and general news posts.

  Ryowulf

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12/27/12 11:24:24 AM#4
This isn't the actual review. They have a post about Steam, etc all ready.  Its a review of the game, not Hammerpoint.
  Zalmon

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12/27/12 11:28:42 AM#5
Yeah why to mention all that in detail? it is review of the game and not about screw ups of devs. WAR Z should get its score on basis of its gameplay, feature etc and not according to bad decision of the company.
  cowo

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12/27/12 11:38:47 AM#6
Originally posted by Ryowulf
This isn't the actual review. They have a post about Steam, etc all ready.  Its a review of the game, not Hammerpoint.

+1 sir, good game with shity dev and bad marketing

  Talonsin

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12/27/12 1:29:36 PM#7
I hope your review covers statements made by the developer that proved to be false, such as the game being unhackable and later after several statements indicating the game HAD some form of hack prevention, mentioning later that it did NOT.
  Thardmann

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12/27/12 1:53:32 PM#8

Anyone have a guest pass to spare?

Wanna see what all the fus is about! :D

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  Furanku

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12/27/12 1:58:12 PM#9
I still think it is funny how people are all cranky about it. Regardless of the imperfections they have in their so called "Founders Release" Aka. Alpha v.2.0.9 The game has a great chance to change MMO-FPS-Horror-Survival. I think it is shitty that they attempted to sell the game on steam not even nearly completed, shit The Community Function is rough, the option to use the rented servers is not up yet either.  As a LGD (Lead Game Desiner) I believe that the leadership of the development needs to bring in a businessmen to explain how to make a profitable game instead of their invsioned perfect gamed. (which usually never sells)    However, I am not going to go too indepth. -_- I'm just laz. (ignore the wall of text)
  erictlewis

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

12/27/12 2:26:46 PM#10

So what happens if The War Z and other sites don't follow the court ordered cease and desist letter. Looks like nobody is taking it seriously. I wonder what paramount's next step will be.

  Kabaal

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12/27/12 2:37:12 PM#11
Originally posted by Furanku
I still think it is funny how people are all cranky about it. Regardless of the imperfections they have in their so called "Founders Release" Aka. Alpha v.2.0.9 The game has a great chance to change MMO-FPS-Horror-Survival. I think it is shitty that they attempted to sell the game on steam not even nearly completed, shit The Community Function is rough, the option to use the rented servers is not up yet either.  As a LGD (Lead Game Desiner) I believe that the leadership of the development needs to bring in a businessmen to explain how to make a profitable game instead of their invsioned perfect gamed. (which usually never sells)    However, I am not going to go too indepth. -_- I'm just laz. (ignore the wall of text)

It has a great chance to do.. nothing. By summer mid year they'll have moved on to the next project and abandoned War Z (like they've done with every previous project), they've already done the financial moves for it in preparation.

The only profitability from this game was the genius move of getting Steam to sell it to begin with, under false pretenses. Without that it would have been nothing, they were lucky and the consumers unlucky they got that far.

  xBarachielx

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12/27/12 3:08:58 PM#12

All forms of promotion for this game should be seen as immoral at this point.

There's no defending this gigantic scam.

  Devastator_x

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12/27/12 3:13:52 PM#13

Bill, you are calling their ideas solid. Do you want them to be implemented into the game? I definitely do. Yes, they are somewhat misleading people calling the game launched and released but it's better to release the working core of the game and build on it further, listening to players' ideas and feedback than to keep working for three-five years, run a six month beta and still release some crap of the game. Is the War Z a paid beta? Of course it is! But still some players want to pay for it and help to implement their ideas to life. Because then it will be a unique game, the one we are excited to play after years of Everquests, WoWs, Guild Wars, Rifts and dozens more that made me tired and bored after 7 years of MMORPG gaming to the point that I consider Guild Wars 2 as a boring copycat of several other games, ideas and characters from books, movies and even some board games. But it's not the game, It's probably me.


Do not let the rage and disappointment take over you. Don't publish the review or don't put a score. That'll give the game some chance for the future.


P.S. 15$? really? consider it a donation, like on kickstart.

  Battlerock

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12/27/12 3:28:01 PM#14
Holy Moly..... Cut him some slack. I can see that they have some solid ideas too. I think everyone still has thier hate goggles on because of all the launch issues and the obvious rush to beat DayZ. Also I doubt anyone at mmorpg really wanted to review this anyhow, so he was kind of stuck with it.
  Raventree

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12/27/12 5:30:05 PM#15
These guys should have called it a paid beta or something since they were clearly not finished.  They also seriously need some better judgement regarding some of their comments toward their players.  I am all for the idea of the game, but the devs come off as being opportunistic scam artists, which is not doing them any favors if they want to keep developing games.

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  Poachinator

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12/27/12 5:37:28 PM#16
I threw down $15 on the game, for what its worth I think its fun. The only concern I have is the hackers. The game is not fun when you get killed by a hacker. Why not address this and start banning some folks? The rest of the game can come as it needs to as far as I am concerned. Its not like we have to Sub to it, and its pretty damn cheap!
  FromHell

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12/27/12 10:37:51 PM#17

so much hate over 13$ ?

 

MMO players today, hopelessly broke and impatient, always waiting for the next hate train?

that would be an interesting column

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  DioKlahsK

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12/28/12 3:20:25 AM#18

Developers a lot of things I hide. To make game for short terms, to deceive users and quickly to sell the not a ready-made product is a small part not logical actions.

- Recently, at game forums - messages of people who bought game simply are removed. Developers in every possible way try to hide similar indignations.

On mine, them will close soon, or will suggest to be closed...

  Quizzical

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12/28/12 3:26:22 AM#19

We haven't had a good scandal of an MMORPG going down in flames in such a creative and outlandish fashion since Stargate Worlds.  So at least Hammerpoint managed to deliver that.

But like most such scandals, it's funnier if it happens to someone else, and not if you were actually going to play it.

  moguy2

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Wish I had something positive to say =(

12/28/12 6:59:58 AM#20
Originally posted by Terranah

No mention of the trademark suspension, no mention of the fact your forum graphic is copyright infringed and stolen from the TV show Walking Dead, no mention of the fraud perpetrated on Steam.

 

Way to look out for your readers.

 

 

There is always that one person that has to go negative before positive and you mam get it today!! God made Debbie downers for a reason, was this it?

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