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  DAOWAce

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Joined: 10/12/03
Posts: 114

I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter.

12/26/12 12:51:02 PM#21

My first impressions of the F2P release are horrible.  Bugs, bugs, bugs and bad design decisions.  So much of them I had to record a video of them.

http://www.twitch.tv/daowace/b/349351689  (shoddy quality, used Xfire to stream it, pardon)

 

Needless to say, I've quit until they fix the game.  Considering how long it's been since the Dawn patch, I'd expect things to be resolved in about half a year.

I know the team is small, but honestly, I've been seeing patches that include things that I expect in brand new game releases.. and this game has been out for nearly 3 years.

Can't wait to see all the complaining on the Steam forums once the game gets greenlit..

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  Lahuzer

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12/26/12 12:57:32 PM#22
Originally posted by Rlechot
Originally posted by Vonatar
Originally posted by Rlechot
Three days of work and some guy can just steal all my money? I get that this is supposed to be a realistic sandbox MMO, but in real life, people don't come up to me an steal all my cash while I am standing in Walmart. And if it did happen, there would be legal repercussions. In this game he stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.

How is that not realistic? You don't walk around with $10,000 in your pocket, you put your money in the bank. Where it's safe. If you didn't put it in the bank and walked around with that amount of cash you would be taking a risk of losing it.

And there are repercussions in MO, you just didn't know about them. The guy that pickpocketed you would have gone from blue to grey, meaning you could have targeted him and called the guards to kill him and loot your money from him. Point is you let him get away.

I know it's rough on new players, and that's why picpockets hang out in Fabernum, but it's a full loot open pvp game so that should tell you it's going to be about survival.

Yes I totally agree with you. But like i said, going to the bank all the time just because I am scared I will get robbed constantly, just isn't my play style. And even if I would have had a small amount of money, I still would have gotten robbed the smaller amount of money. I just felt violated, no matter what the amount was.

I get people enjoying this game 100%. I was totally into it briefly. I see how people can lose themselves in MO. I have a lot of respect for this game. It in so many ways allows amazing freedom in an MMO that I have never experienced before. I have total respect for all people's play style.  It's just not for me is all I am saying. I just need more security then MO offers. Guess I will just go back to Pac-Man.

But the thing is. If you just watch your back, and be cautious, you won´t have to loose anything. I haven´t been stolen from for over a year. Cause if someone comes to close, I just push them away. Or keep on moving. There are easy ways to avoid thieves in MO.

  Jakdstripper

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12/26/12 1:09:58 PM#23
Originally posted by Lahuzer
Originally posted by Rlechot
 

But the thing is. If you just watch your back, and be cautious, you won´t have to loose anything. I haven´t been stolen from for over a year. Cause if someone comes to close, I just push them away. Or keep on moving. There are easy ways to avoid thieves in MO.

 mechanics, mechanics, mechanics.

in a FFA full loot mmo you've GOT to know how the mechanics work if you want to enjoy the game. Yes, thiefing is annoying when you start out but when you learn how and what thiefs can do they wont steal anything of value from you anymore.

 

carry only silver! and never carry less than a few hunderd in a stack. anything over 100 in a stack is too much for thiefs to steal regardless of what it is.

besides coin the only other useful things a thief can steal (and try resell) are weappons and mount receipt.

Equip your weappons, as they cannot steal what you have equipped. If you can't equip them then put them in your horse's bags or bank them asap.

alwasy put your back against a wall when at the bank, NPC vendors or mail. That is the most likely place where thiefs will try and steal from you.

If you see a naked elf, he is probably a thief. target him and keep an eye on him.

If someone steals from you, and you get the chat message that he stole from you, you can kill him inside of towns as they are local gray to you.

 

 

  Shubawkss

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12/26/12 2:07:24 PM#24
So, is there a tl;dr version of this post - is the game good or bad, or at least worth a try?
  Lahuzer

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12/26/12 2:48:19 PM#25
Originally posted by Shubawkss
So, is there a tl;dr version of this post - is the game good or bad, or at least worth a try?

If you have time to spare, and nothing else to do, and are interested in a full loot PVP game, in a sandbox setting, then why not. It´s F2P after all. Try it out. Just prepare to run into bugs and die alot at first. ;) But beyond that there is fun to be had for some that likes all that jazz.

  MadnessRealm

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12/26/12 3:22:51 PM#26

I tried to play the game a few weeks back when it first announced it was going F2P but the game wouldn't run past character creation (if not simply crash while character was being created) so I sort of gave up. I did play back when it had some free period in 2011 and it was alright, but didn't hook me up at all.

Will try giving it another shot out of curiosity but my hopes aren't too high. Just booted the launcher and got an error :s

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  wowclones

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12/26/12 6:15:57 PM#27
George is being modest, graphics suck , abuse of the unreal engine. Start zone has a few tree models, yes 3, two color terrain. Ugh so ugly. I stopped playing. Funny how these games go f2p when most of the subs leave.
  Darkcrystal

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12/26/12 8:04:18 PM#28
Originally posted by cronius77
isnt this game just about dead in the water and forced to go free to play because no one hardly plays it? with people thieving in safe zones in even a full loot pvp game i can see why its dying. Too bad to because I would of tried it until i read this. Going to a bank every 5 mins isnt realistic its simply stupid and carrot on a stick just like any gear chasing game out there because its a sink . I miss shadowbane...

What are you talking about its far from dying game, the market  is going more  F2P because of the amount of games out today, and most players TODAY perfer to be held by there hand, which I do not , this is a niche style game, it is not for everyone its HARDCORE, thats why you guys have games like WOW, so I don't get why people whi get upset by these games because players like me get upset by games like WOW where it takes no brains to play.. I perfer to think when I play, I like the rush of someone trying to kill me, I like the challenge of playing VS another player, I'm tired of endless games playign against the AI, ZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZ.

 

Snozze fest, we have our games, and you have yours, so I don't get why people get upset by games and say things that are wrong about a game, this review as usually is once again incomplete, I don't understand why people who gives reviews even bother , because you should play the game for more then 20 mins, I seen the Asheron call one and I wanted to laugh and throw up... Anyways if  to the person getting all the money  taken, there is something in chat thet says such an such is snooping, so you are warned you choice to ignore it... Do some of you  people read anything about a game before you play it??? I guess not....

 

These are Hardcore games and have some awesome features this game has its issues because of bugs and being a lower budget team which is an Indie team, but a AAA company would never make a game like this because games like this are Niche meaning gamers today rather have there hand held through the whole thing, but we do have a fair amount who do not.

 

This is why we have our games  like Darkfall, EOC, Mortal online and more....

  Darkcrystal

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12/26/12 8:06:44 PM#29
Originally posted by wowclones
George is being modest, graphics suck , abuse of the unreal engine. Start zone has a few tree models, yes 3, two color terrain. Ugh so ugly. I stopped playing. Funny how these games go f2p when most of the subs leave.
 

Nothing wrong with the Unreal Engine, Unreal is one of the best engines out there, and its used by 80% of the industry, so I love when gamers think they know what they are talking about... When they don't.. By the way The terrain in MO was not built by Unreal so before you bash it, get some facts. Unreal does not have a great terrain builder so most model there own, or use some form of a program, or what not.

 

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  Lethal920

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12/26/12 8:23:43 PM#30
A game that has been out for 2 years should have much fewer bugs, that's rediculous.

  Rlechot

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Joined: 8/27/12
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12/26/12 9:18:23 PM#31
Personally, I thought the graphics were fantastic. I loved the graphics. Yes the program was a little buggy, but not enough to keep someone from playing it. For me this game is for the "hardcore" gamer. And if that's your style, this is your game.
  Thebozz

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Posts: 117

12/26/12 10:57:34 PM#32
I can't believe this game went F2P.  Don't they know they could have withheld updates for a year+ and then released a new version of the game after turning the old servers off.  Only instead of releasing pushed back and sold preorders so people could beta test the new version that only had a few days of work left.  The nerve of some companies.
  Cursedsei

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12/26/12 11:20:10 PM#33
Originally posted by Darkcrystal
Originally posted by cronius77
isnt this game just about dead in the water and forced to go free to play because no one hardly plays it? with people thieving in safe zones in even a full loot pvp game i can see why its dying. Too bad to because I would of tried it until i read this. Going to a bank every 5 mins isnt realistic its simply stupid and carrot on a stick just like any gear chasing game out there because its a sink . I miss shadowbane...

What are you talking about its far from dying game, the market  is going more  F2P because of the amount of games out today, and most players TODAY perfer to be held by there hand, which I do not , this is a niche style game, it is not for everyone its HARDCORE, thats why you guys have games like WOW, so I don't get why people whi get upset by these games because players like me get upset by games like WOW where it takes no brains to play.. I perfer to think when I play, I like the rush of someone trying to kill me, I like the challenge of playing VS another player, I'm tired of endless games playign against the AI, ZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZ.

 -snip-

This is why we have our games  like Darkfall, EOC, Mortal online and more....

Yep, and out of all those, this is the only one that is going Free to Play.

 

Your logic is completely flawed and off-base, and is ignoring the simple fact that Mortal Online and its developers have consistently put themselves in over their heads on everything, and have underperformed consistently. If the market is so full of "no brain" games like WoW, as you ignorantly state. Then I must ask this.

 

Why hasn't every other game you listed gone free to play besides Mortal Online? And simply put I can answer that. The team is amatuerish at best, and have struggled to even get the game this far in the first place.

  umcorian

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12/26/12 11:22:40 PM#34
Originally posted by Vonatar
Originally posted by Rlechot
Three days of work and some guy can just steal all my money? I get that this is supposed to be a realistic sandbox MMO, but in real life, people don't come up to me an steal all my cash while I am standing in Walmart. And if it did happen, there would be legal repercussions. In this game he stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.

How is that not realistic? You don't walk around with $10,000 in your pocket, you put your money in the bank. Where it's safe. If you didn't put it in the bank and walked around with that amount of cash you would be taking a risk of losing it.

And there are repercussions in MO, you just didn't know about them. The guy that pickpocketed you would have gone from blue to grey, meaning you could have targeted him and called the guards to kill him and loot your money from him. Point is you let him get away.

I know it's rough on new players, and that's why picpockets hang out in Fabernum, but it's a full loot open pvp game so that should tell you it's going to be about survival.

 

I think the idea is a thief shouldn't have been able to steal a fortune from you via pickpocketing ... just like that. 

 

Even in UO (the first full loot, PvP MMO), stealing more than a 100gp or so was extremely difficult. I believe anything over 10 "stones" was not possible to be lifted. Considering you could make 100gp in UO by killing a single monster or two, no one pickpocket could even make a dent in the amount of money you could make in 3 days.

 

If any idiot can come up to you and lift the MO equivilent of like 30,000 UO gp in a single grab, that's just bad game design. 

 

 
  Yamota

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12/27/12 3:14:08 AM#35
Originally posted by Rlechot
Originally posted by GimiZigi

 

Did they kill you first and still your money or was it some kind of pick-pocket trick?

He didn't kill me.

He just sat there at a vendor that was selling supplies. So while I was making a transaction with the vendor, he stole my money. The vendor told me that I didn't have enough money to make the transaction. I was like what the hell? How can that be? Then I went through the on screen log and found where it said "guys name" just stole all my money.

You had this in UO as well but there you could simply yell guards and they would come and kill the thief. Probably that is not possible in MO, go figures.

  Yamota

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12/27/12 3:16:06 AM#36
Originally posted by umcorian
Originally posted by Vonatar
Originally posted by Rlechot
Three days of work and some guy can just steal all my money? I get that this is supposed to be a realistic sandbox MMO, but in real life, people don't come up to me an steal all my cash while I am standing in Walmart. And if it did happen, there would be legal repercussions. In this game he stole my money and there was nothing I could do about it.

How is that not realistic? You don't walk around with $10,000 in your pocket, you put your money in the bank. Where it's safe. If you didn't put it in the bank and walked around with that amount of cash you would be taking a risk of losing it.

And there are repercussions in MO, you just didn't know about them. The guy that pickpocketed you would have gone from blue to grey, meaning you could have targeted him and called the guards to kill him and loot your money from him. Point is you let him get away.

I know it's rough on new players, and that's why picpockets hang out in Fabernum, but it's a full loot open pvp game so that should tell you it's going to be about survival.

 

I think the idea is a thief shouldn't have been able to steal a fortune from you via pickpocketing ... just like that. 

 

Even in UO (the first full loot, PvP MMO), stealing more than a 100gp or so was extremely difficult. I believe anything over 10 "stones" was not possible to be lifted. Considering you could make 100gp in UO by killing a single monster or two, no one pickpocket could even make a dent in the amount of money you could make in 3 days.

 

If any idiot can come up to you and lift the MO equivilent of like 30,000 UO gp in a single grab, that's just bad game design. 

 

 

Agreed. Hardcore has nothing to do with it as much as poor game design.

  Hodo

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12/27/12 9:48:29 AM#37

All this discussion about one guy getting robbed by a broken incomplete mechanic.   That has been that way since oh they put it in.   I made a thief once, it was horribly broken and easy to exploit.   I am sure its a bit better now /sarcasm.     I hated thieves so much I went red and just stayed in red towns it was safer.    Between the vulchures who hang around waiting for someone to get guard popped and then ninja loot the bag and run out of town before they get guarded.  

 

As for the combat system, its a joke.   It was actually better in Block B beta then it is now and thats sad.   Its all about the FOTM weapons.  

So much crap, so little quality.

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/27/12 10:09:43 AM#38
Originally posted by Darkcrystal
Originally posted by cronius77
isnt this game just about dead in the water and forced to go free to play because no one hardly plays it? with people thieving in safe zones in even a full loot pvp game i can see why its dying. Too bad to because I would of tried it until i read this. Going to a bank every 5 mins isnt realistic its simply stupid and carrot on a stick just like any gear chasing game out there because its a sink . I miss shadowbane...

What are you talking about its far from dying game, the market  is going more  F2P because of the amount of games out today, and most players TODAY perfer to be held by there hand, which I do not , this is a niche style game, it is not for everyone its HARDCORE, thats why you guys have games like WOW, so I don't get why people whi get upset by these games because players like me get upset by games like WOW where it takes no brains to play.. I perfer to think when I play, I like the rush of someone trying to kill me, I like the challenge of playing VS another player, I'm tired of endless games playign against the AI, ZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZ.

 

Snozze fest, we have our games, and you have yours, so I don't get why people get upset by games and say things that are wrong about a game, this review as usually is once again incomplete, I don't understand why people who gives reviews even bother , because you should play the game for more then 20 mins, I seen the Asheron call one and I wanted to laugh and throw up... Anyways if  to the person getting all the money  taken, there is something in chat thet says such an such is snooping, so you are warned you choice to ignore it... Do some of you  people read anything about a game before you play it??? I guess not....

 

These are Hardcore games and have some awesome features this game has its issues because of bugs and being a lower budget team which is an Indie team, but a AAA company would never make a game like this because games like this are Niche meaning gamers today rather have there hand held through the whole thing, but we do have a fair amount who do not.

 

This is why we have our games  like Darkfall, EOC, Mortal online and more....

Game that are doing well don't simply convert to the free to play model lol. MO, just like SWTOR and many others went free to play because they couldn't survive as a pay to play. Gamers simply didn't see the value in the monthly fee and thus they left lol. MO did not switch to free to play simply because lol. 

  Aethaeryn

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Joined: 2/14/10
Posts: 1897

12/27/12 11:16:10 AM#39
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by 3-4thElf

Realisticly in their world you should've been able to run him down, kill him, take your money back, and his head.

There's more options than asking for people to kiss your booboo.

 I thought if someone stole from you they turned grey and you could kill them

If he kills him in the city the guards will kill him on sight.

 

 

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  Lahuzer

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12/27/12 11:42:03 AM#40
Originally posted by Aethaeryn
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by 3-4thElf

Realisticly in their world you should've been able to run him down, kill him, take your money back, and his head.

There's more options than asking for people to kiss your booboo.

 I thought if someone stole from you they turned grey and you could kill them

If he kills him in the city the guards will kill him on sight.

 

 

He won´t go grey for killing a grey person. So guards won´t attack him.

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