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General Discussion  » MMORPG.COM should remove WAR Z Graphic

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  Terranah

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OP  12/25/12 1:24:14 PM#1

MMORPG.com prides itself on respecting the intellectual property of others, hence the reason emulators are not discussed.  But as has already been pointed out, the graphic next to the forum description is a copyright infringement of The Walking Dead.  It should be removed.

 

  Roxtarr

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Joined: 7/17/12
Posts: 929

12/25/12 1:28:19 PM#2
There has been no copyright claim.  Only a person who noticed the source of their artwork.  

If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.

  DMKano

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12/25/12 1:35:13 PM#3
Originally posted by Roxtarr
There has been no copyright claim.  Only a person who noticed the source of their artwork.  

Mmorpg should remove WarZ period, it is a scam product made by get rich quick scam team.

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/25/12 1:39:22 PM#4
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Roxtarr
There has been no copyright claim.  Only a person who noticed the source of their artwork.  

Mmorpg should remove WarZ period, it is a scam product made by get rich quick scam team.

I never bought the game. Simple reason they were releasing it in alpha stage. How is that a scam because people cant read? They clearly stated this, just so many people didnt read that and thought it was going to be a complete and functional game. They wanted the game now and didnt want to wait.

And no im not a fanboi, i dont own it. Just common sense to research before you buy lol.

 

  Roxtarr

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12/25/12 1:42:04 PM#5
This topic was a concern regarding the artwork being copyright infringement, which it is not.  The WarZ has plenty of other issues to deal with, but this one is pretty minor in comparison.

If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
Posts: 1052

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/25/12 1:44:25 PM#6
Just curious, i havent kept up with this. But did they ask TWD to use the graphics? Or maybe the artist? Just seems t me TWD crew would be all over this if they actualy stole this stuff. Again not trying to create conflict just curious. Is WarZ totaly at fault?
  Painlezz

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12/25/12 1:44:36 PM#7
Originally posted by Roxtarr
This topic was a concern regarding the artwork being copyright infringement, which it is not.  The WarZ has plenty of other issues to deal with, but this one is pretty minor in comparison.

Confused...

First you say the artwork is not an issue...  A few words later you say it's only minor in comparison.

So, is the artwork stolen or is it not?

  Terranah

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OP  12/25/12 1:45:54 PM#8

It absolutely is copyright infringement.  You don't need to make a claim of ownership for it to infringe upon the owner of the original image.  War Z already acknowledged it was copyright infringement, fired the artist, and pulled the image. 

 

I believe it's continued use here has simply been an oversight.

  Wickedjelly

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The Dude abides

12/25/12 1:49:43 PM#9
Originally posted by Roxtarr
This topic was a concern regarding the artwork being copyright infringement, which it is not.  The WarZ has plenty of other issues to deal with, but this one is pretty minor in comparison.

Pretty sure you can't just go around using other people's photos for their marketing campaign as your own.

We'll find out soon enough. Would imagine after the holidays this will probably be brought more into question. Doubt AMC was even aware of this until recently. If they even are yet.

Could get mighty interesting considering I wouldn't be surprised if Valve is considering all their options too.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Onomas

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Joined: 7/05/11
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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/25/12 1:51:01 PM#10
Originally posted by Terranah

It absolutely is copyright infringement.  You don't need to make a claim of ownership for it to infringe upon the owner of the original image.  War Z already acknowledged it was copyright infringement, fired the artist, and pulled the image. 

 

I believe it's continued use here has simply been an oversight.

I see, that is bad. Yes should be removed.

But its the holidays you might not see that happen for awhile.

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 1299

12/25/12 1:53:07 PM#11
Originally posted by Onomas
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Roxtarr
There has been no copyright claim.  Only a person who noticed the source of their artwork.  

Mmorpg should remove WarZ period, it is a scam product made by get rich quick scam team.

I never bought the game. Simple reason they were releasing it in alpha stage. How is that a scam because people cant read? They clearly stated this, just so many people didnt read that and thought it was going to be a complete and functional game. They wanted the game now and didnt want to wait.

And no im not a fanboi, i dont own it. Just common sense to research before you buy lol.

 

The game was hastily coded over a period of 6 months - the devs claim it was in development for years, complete lies.

The game is a blatant ripoff of DayZ, even the name is made to be so close to DayZ that many erroneously buy it just due to name similarity.

Devs lied about the features, it got them pulled off Steam.

All of the above are indicators of a scam product, furthermore if you look into the dev history you will find other scam games they previously released (Big Rigs.....)

ScamZ -sad reality

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 3910

12/25/12 1:54:15 PM#12
Its sort of fitting in a way, with so much of the game, including its EULA copied from other games. Totalbiscuit pretty much says it all on his youtube vids, think anyone even considering buying this game, should watch it before going ahead with the purchase, so that they can at least make an 'informed' choice.. that is.. if the game is still even for sale.
  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5062

The Dude abides

12/25/12 1:55:28 PM#13
Originally posted by Phry
Its sort of fitting in a way, with so much of the game, including its EULA copied from other games. Totalbiscuit pretty much says it all on his youtube vids, think anyone even considering buying this game, should watch it before going ahead with the purchase, so that they can at least make an 'informed' choice.. that is.. if the game is still even for sale.

Of course it is...

They've seen a 25% increase in sales thanks to all the free publicity!

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Terranah

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Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 3508

 
OP  12/25/12 2:01:44 PM#14

I posted an image in the initial post to clear up any confusion.  As was mentioned it's Christmas, so I'm sure most people including the moderators are enjoying it with their families and won't get around to it till after the holidays.

 

  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 4233

12/25/12 2:02:48 PM#15
They stole their ad art? Geez how much extra is it to get a couple people in zombie makeup. Better yet draw some zombies

DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees.

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 1299

12/25/12 2:06:18 PM#16
Originally posted by bcbully
They stole their ad art? Geez how much extra is it to get a couple people in zombie makeup. Better yet draw some zombies

When your modus operandi is to make a quick buck no matter what, is it really that surprising?

  Wickedjelly

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Posts: 5062

The Dude abides

12/25/12 2:13:01 PM#17
Originally posted by Terranah

I posted an image in the initial post to clear up any confusion.  As was mentioned it's Christmas, so I'm sure most people including the moderators are enjoying it with their families and won't get around to it till after the holidays.

 

They could always go the Vanilla Ice route and claim it is unique since they photo shopped some hair on them.

>_>

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  erictlewis

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Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 2979

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

12/25/12 2:13:33 PM#18


Originally posted by bcbully
They stole their ad art?

Geez how much extra is it to get a couple people in zombie makeup. Better yet draw some zombies


It was easier to scan it in and use some touch up software. The funny thing is the already have a court order to stop using the name War Z, in the next week there will be another copyright infringement case. This time over stealing and using photos without permission. So yes this site should pull the War Z adds and Logo before it becomes a problem for them.

I wonder why they not yet change the name of the forums since there already been a copyright judgement and a cease and desist order on the name.

  aleos

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Joined: 1/02/07
Posts: 1839

Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality.

12/25/12 2:16:18 PM#19
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Roxtarr
There has been no copyright claim.  Only a person who noticed the source of their artwork.  

Mmorpg should remove WarZ period, it is a scam product made by get rich quick scam team.

if thats the case. most games should be removed from this site.

  Swanea

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2288

12/25/12 2:17:37 PM#20
Totally obvious...Gosh that's terrible.  I understand influences, but this is almost a cut and paste....
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