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  Jianyu

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12/24/12 8:55:08 PM#41
Originally posted by SunYam

Uhhh, go read what Deluxe was suppose to get. It states "Special events and sweeptakes just for Deluxe members". Now it's being said that Elite gets that too. So the one thing we got as a bonus for spending $20 isn't an exclusive to us anymore. So we lost something that was ours only, so shouldn't we be given something for that in return?

I don't mind that Elite got more but I think how much they got for $9.99 compaired to what we got for $19.99 is way unfair. Considering Elite also now gets our exclusive. They could offer us something like extra VIP, or a perm mount or more Gold.

I already responded to you about this claim on the official forums. For the sake of providing a rebuttal to another user's response there, just because Deluxe users didn't read the thread stating that Elite users were receiving all the benefits of the Deluxe edition, a statement which was issued the same day that Deluxe was made available, doesn't mean that they were cheated or that Snail Games pulled a bait-and-switch.

The fact that Deluxe users weren't aware that their "exclusive" wasn't as exclusive as they thought, when the information was there to be read, is a far cry from actually having a promised element of your package revoked. And, like on the official forums, I'm now pulling out of discussing this particular subject.

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  OMGr8573

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12/24/12 9:04:31 PM#42
Originally posted by Jianyu
Originally posted by SunYam

Uhhh, go read what Deluxe was suppose to get. It states "Special events and sweeptakes just for Deluxe members". Now it's being said that Elite gets that too. So the one thing we got as a bonus for spending $20 isn't an exclusive to us anymore. So we lost something that was ours only, so shouldn't we be given something for that in return?

I don't mind that Elite got more but I think how much they got for $9.99 compaired to what we got for $19.99 is way unfair. Considering Elite also now gets our exclusive. They could offer us something like extra VIP, or a perm mount or more Gold.

I already responded to you about this claim on the official forums. For the sake of providing a rebuttal to another user's response there, just because Deluxe users didn't read the thread stating that Elite users were receiving all the benefits of the Deluxe edition, a statement which was issued the same day that Deluxe was made available, doesn't mean that they were cheated or that Snail Games pulled a bait-and-switch.

The fact that Deluxe users weren't aware that their "exclusive" wasn't as exclusive as they thought, when the information was there to be read, is a far cry from actually having a promised element of your package revoked. And, like on the official forums, I'm now pulling out of discussing this particular subject.

Doesn't matter what the post says. The main page talking about what Deluxe gets states that it is "Just for Deluxe" if they turn around and give it to Elite also it's no longer "Just for Deluxe". The one exclusive thing we got is not exclusive.

If you paid someone for something exclusive, they handed it to you and said "This is just for you!!" Then right in front of your face they turned around had handed the same thing to someone else... how would that make you feel, mainly if you paid twice as much as the other person?

If Elite gets our exclusive then Deluxe should get Elites exclusive. Fair is fair. Not sure how true it is but I read on the forums yesterday that both Elite and Deluxe was suppose to get the perm mount. If that's true then where's our perm mount?

  st4t1ck

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Joined: 7/24/10
Posts: 584

12/24/12 9:25:32 PM#43
Originally posted by SunYam
Originally posted by Jianyu
Originally posted by SunYam

Uhhh, go read what Deluxe was suppose to get. It states "Special events and sweeptakes just for Deluxe members". Now it's being said that Elite gets that too. So the one thing we got as a bonus for spending $20 isn't an exclusive to us anymore. So we lost something that was ours only, so shouldn't we be given something for that in return?

I don't mind that Elite got more but I think how much they got for $9.99 compaired to what we got for $19.99 is way unfair. Considering Elite also now gets our exclusive. They could offer us something like extra VIP, or a perm mount or more Gold.

I already responded to you about this claim on the official forums. For the sake of providing a rebuttal to another user's response there, just because Deluxe users didn't read the thread stating that Elite users were receiving all the benefits of the Deluxe edition, a statement which was issued the same day that Deluxe was made available, doesn't mean that they were cheated or that Snail Games pulled a bait-and-switch.

The fact that Deluxe users weren't aware that their "exclusive" wasn't as exclusive as they thought, when the information was there to be read, is a far cry from actually having a promised element of your package revoked. And, like on the official forums, I'm now pulling out of discussing this particular subject.

Doesn't matter what the post says. The main page talking about what Deluxe gets states that it is "Just for Deluxe" if they turn around and give it to Elite also it's no longer "Just for Deluxe". The one exclusive thing we got is not exclusive.

If you paid someone for something exclusive, they handed it to you and said "This is just for you!!" Then right in front of your face they turned around had handed the same thing to someone else... how would that make you feel, mainly if you paid twice as much as the other person?

If Elite gets our exclusive then Deluxe should get Elites exclusive. Fair is fair. Not sure how true it is but I read on the forums yesterday that both Elite and Deluxe was suppose to get the perm mount. If that's true then where's our perm mount?

i dont know where you read deleux exlusive though, as soon as i seen the post on there website about selling deleux edition it stated clearly that elite edition gets what deleux got

  OMGr8573

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Joined: 5/29/07
Posts: 96

12/24/12 9:35:17 PM#44
Originally posted by st4t1ck
Originally posted by SunYam

Doesn't matter what the post says. The main page talking about what Deluxe gets states that it is "Just for Deluxe" if they turn around and give it to Elite also it's no longer "Just for Deluxe". The one exclusive thing we got is not exclusive.

If you paid someone for something exclusive, they handed it to you and said "This is just for you!!" Then right in front of your face they turned around had handed the same thing to someone else... how would that make you feel, mainly if you paid twice as much as the other person?

If Elite gets our exclusive then Deluxe should get Elites exclusive. Fair is fair. Not sure how true it is but I read on the forums yesterday that both Elite and Deluxe was suppose to get the perm mount. If that's true then where's our perm mount?

i dont know where you read deleux exlusive though, as soon as i seen the post on there website about selling deleux edition it stated clearly that elite edition gets what deleux got

Front page of Age of Wushu. It clearly states under what Deluxe gets. It clearly states "Special events and sweeptakes JUST for Deluxe members."

Think it's sad that Elite gets what Deluxe gets plus more and at half the price. We paid $19.99, Elite paid $9.99, if anything it should've been the other way around. They should've said "Deluxe cost more so they'll get Elite plus more!" But they should at least offer Deluxe member something extra.

  HeroEvermore

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12/24/12 9:39:32 PM#45
Wasted 20$ on this garbage game. I will never play anything from snail games in my life. My first true boycott of a company. They flip flop, they scam, they abuse there player base and the games combat is 1999 (its horrible). You think they care about you? Not even close. Game will get shut down by 2015.

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  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7324

12/24/12 10:05:57 PM#46

All I know is that as an elite player, I've gotten about 7 horses since start of cb2.... I've vendered 2-3 for bag space. 

 

As far as w/e other perks, I do not even know what I'm supposed to get, but I know I get a gift bag almost every hour. I have so many of these "perks" (which are given to every player after a couple days of playing) I need to either sell or vendor them for bag space.

 

As far as the guy above. I'm sorry this is not the game for you. Hope you find one. Just curious what did you do while you played?

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Biskop

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Joined: 10/06/11
Posts: 731

12/25/12 1:45:13 AM#47
God, the whining never ends.

[mod edit]

Sorry but the customer isn't always right and the world doesn't revolve around you and your pathetic twenty bucks. Move on and live with the fact that you spent your money unwisely. Who knows, you might just learn something in the process.
  Opapanax

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Joined: 10/29/11
Posts: 983

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12/25/12 4:54:10 AM#48

It's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. Plus they have compensated in many other areas. Areas that are directly effected by how much cash you put into the game. They got a good heaping of gold. Which can be turned into in-game currency at a fair rate.

Plus from what is the word now, they actually got their Permanant mounts back. I hope people give this game a chance. I don't know about the company and their policies like that (I'm not out to get cheated either believe that), but as far as the game itself. There shouldn't be tons of complaints there, they've got an impressive sandbox pvp game on their hands.

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  LadyEuphei

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Joined: 4/16/12
Posts: 226

 
OP  12/25/12 7:45:53 AM#49
Originally posted by Opapanax

It's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. Plus they have compensated in many other areas. Areas that are directly effected by how much cash you put into the game. They got a good heaping of gold. Which can be turned into in-game currency at a fair rate.

Plus from what is the word now, they actually got their Permanant mounts back. I hope people give this game a chance. I don't know about the company and their policies like that (I'm not out to get cheated either believe that), but as far as the game itself. There shouldn't be tons of complaints there, they've got an impressive sandbox pvp game on their hands.

This is not about the elite perma horse debacle. This is more about how virtual property feels cheapened when another package is increased in value. This is about how the deluxe uys feel riped off. We are more talking about the gap that has just formed and the people that are trying to fight to be at the top (the deluxe) and the people fighting to keep everyone else down (The elite) and your thoughts on it. The deluxe get 15 gold not the 105 gold the elite get, so not so much a heap as a trickle. LOL :P

  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7324

12/25/12 7:50:49 AM#50
Originally posted by LadyEuphei
Originally posted by Opapanax

It's really not as bad as people are making it out to be. Plus they have compensated in many other areas. Areas that are directly effected by how much cash you put into the game. They got a good heaping of gold. Which can be turned into in-game currency at a fair rate.

Plus from what is the word now, they actually got their Permanant mounts back. I hope people give this game a chance. I don't know about the company and their policies like that (I'm not out to get cheated either believe that), but as far as the game itself. There shouldn't be tons of complaints there, they've got an impressive sandbox pvp game on their hands.

This is not about the elite perma horse debacle. This is more about how virtual property feels cheapened when another package is increased in value. This is about how the deluxe uys feel riped off. We are more talking about the gap that has just formed and the people that are trying to fight to be at the top (the deluxe) and the people fighting to keep everyone else down (The elite) and your thoughts on it. The deluxe get 15 gold not the 105 gold the elite get, so not so much a heap as a trickle. LOL :P

Do you like the game? 

You know the elite player is CB1 right, and that delux was released after CB1, right? So the earliest supporters get less than the new supporters? W/e really. Idk if they gave the new guys 200g 500g. It doesn't really matter.

 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  LadyEuphei

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Joined: 4/16/12
Posts: 226

 
OP  12/25/12 7:51:10 AM#51
Originally posted by Biskop
God, the whining never ends.

[mod edit]

Sorry but the customer isn't always right and the world doesn't revolve around you and your pathetic twenty bucks. Move on and live with the fact that you spent your money unwisely. Who knows, you might just learn something in the process.

Your kinda angry and obviously not an american lol. I believe the deluxe have a good reason to complain, just as the elite did. The elite protested (if I was angry I would call it whining) when their package was cheapened, and now the deluxe is protesting when their package was cheapened in comparison. You should jolly up friend, you may not be from a place where it is christmas time but I wish you a good holiday and everyone else too.

  imagina

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12/25/12 7:52:27 AM#52

When do players have to pay to play on a beta ?

I don't even need to go further than that first problem to, not do it.

  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
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12/25/12 7:58:01 AM#53
Originally posted by LadyEuphei
Originally posted by Biskop
God, the whining never ends.

[mod edit]

Sorry but the customer isn't always right and the world doesn't revolve around you and your pathetic twenty bucks. Move on and live with the fact that you spent your money unwisely. Who knows, you might just learn something in the process.

Your kinda angry and obviously not an american lol. I believe the deluxe have a good reason to complain, just as the elite did. The elite protested (if I was angry I would call it whining) when their package was cheapened, and now the deluxe is protesting when their package was cheapened in comparison. You should jolly up friend, you may not be from a place where it is christmas time but I wish you a good holiday and everyone else too.

I will ask you again. Do you like the game?

and 

How much do you need to feel good?

 

edit - merry christmas! I'm just trying to get where you are coming from. I have not heard anyone complain about any of this in game. Forgive me if I'm coming off wrong.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  bcbully

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12/25/12 8:03:45 AM#54
Originally posted by imagina

When do players have to pay to play on a beta ?

I don't even need to go further than that first problem to, not do it.

You don't. You will get a 1 hour time limit after your first 10 hours though. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Biskop

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Joined: 10/06/11
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12/25/12 9:06:36 AM#55
@ Lady Euphei

I'm not angry, just a bit sick of things like this being blown out of proportion by people who seem to think they should have some special treatment just because they spent their money. It would have been different if there was some kind of scam or shady business involved here, but the offer was very clear and straightforward, so these people have no one but themselves to blame if they feel they haven't got their money's worth.


All goods may eventually lose their value, and deals come and go. This includes virtual goods. Crying about it won't change a thing, it just makes the crying person look like a moron for not investigating the deal before spending money.


Oh, and a merry christmas to you too btw. : ) Some of us do celebrate it here in the barbarian lands beyond the US borders.
  svandy

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12/25/12 11:16:08 AM#56
Entitlement will kill mmo gaming I am sure of it. I don't know the specifics but the elite package was a special 1 month offer right? So if I am a savy shopper and hit a back Friday sale at gamestop they owe that price to everyone?

Im a deluxe edition guy and I am completely satisfied if bummed that I missed out

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  lantesh1

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12/25/12 11:29:08 AM#57
Originally posted by Biskop
@ Lady Euphei

I'm not angry, just a bit sick of things like this being blown out of proportion by people who seem to think they should have some special treatment just because they spent their money. It would have been different if there was some kind of scam or shady business involved here, but the offer was very clear and straightforward, so these people have no one but themselves to blame if they feel they haven't got their money's worth.


All goods may eventually lose their value, and deals come and go. This includes virtual goods. Crying about it won't change a thing, it just makes the crying person look like a moron for not investigating the deal before spending money.


Oh, and a merry christmas to you too btw. : ) Some of us do celebrate it here in the barbarian lands beyond the US borders.

 

Honestly, I've been seeing a lot of that over on the forum. Not just regarding the elite/deluxe deals (which while my understanding of the situation is slim as I don't care to get into it, seems to be an inability to wrap ones head around the idea that a deal available at one time at one price doesn't mean the same deal will be available later) but in regards to pretty much everything. Lots of people throwing fits on the forum and acting like the company should be licking their heel because they bought some gold. As it stands, I don't like their F2P model (rental items need to go, and people are already buying their way to power with cultivation boosts...) but I don't think I would play at this point even if they did fix it because of the kind of community/people the game is attracting. Seems like the same old F2P crowd with all the bigotry, entitlement, and other BS that comes with it.

 

  bcbully

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7324

12/25/12 12:02:25 PM#58
Originally posted by lantesh1
Originally posted by Biskop
@ Lady Euphei

I'm not angry, just a bit sick of things like this being blown out of proportion by people who seem to think they should have some special treatment just because they spent their money. It would have been different if there was some kind of scam or shady business involved here, but the offer was very clear and straightforward, so these people have no one but themselves to blame if they feel they haven't got their money's worth.


All goods may eventually lose their value, and deals come and go. This includes virtual goods. Crying about it won't change a thing, it just makes the crying person look like a moron for not investigating the deal before spending money.


Oh, and a merry christmas to you too btw. : ) Some of us do celebrate it here in the barbarian lands beyond the US borders.

 

Honestly, I've been seeing a lot of that over on the forum. Not just regarding the elite/deluxe deals (which while my understanding of the situation is slim as I don't care to get into it, seems to be an inability to wrap ones head around the idea that a deal available at one time at one price doesn't mean the same deal will be available later) but in regards to pretty much everything. Lots of people throwing fits on the forum and acting like the company should be licking their heel because they bought some gold. As it stands, I don't like their F2P model (rental items need to go, and people are already buying their way to power with cultivation boosts...) but I don't think I would play at this point even if they did fix it because of the kind of community/people the game is attracting. Seems like the same old F2P crowd with all the bigotry, entitlement, and other BS that comes with it.

 

The forums looks strange to me... I would not be surprised if it's about 10 people raising hell. In game the community is pretty cool. The game is very social, people are helpfull, even funny. The forums look like a different world. Idk.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Panther2103

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2084

12/25/12 12:08:07 PM#59
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by lantesh1
Originally posted by Biskop
@ Lady Euphei

I'm not angry, just a bit sick of things like this being blown out of proportion by people who seem to think they should have some special treatment just because they spent their money. It would have been different if there was some kind of scam or shady business involved here, but the offer was very clear and straightforward, so these people have no one but themselves to blame if they feel they haven't got their money's worth.


All goods may eventually lose their value, and deals come and go. This includes virtual goods. Crying about it won't change a thing, it just makes the crying person look like a moron for not investigating the deal before spending money.


Oh, and a merry christmas to you too btw. : ) Some of us do celebrate it here in the barbarian lands beyond the US borders.

 

Honestly, I've been seeing a lot of that over on the forum. Not just regarding the elite/deluxe deals (which while my understanding of the situation is slim as I don't care to get into it, seems to be an inability to wrap ones head around the idea that a deal available at one time at one price doesn't mean the same deal will be available later) but in regards to pretty much everything. Lots of people throwing fits on the forum and acting like the company should be licking their heel because they bought some gold. As it stands, I don't like their F2P model (rental items need to go, and people are already buying their way to power with cultivation boosts...) but I don't think I would play at this point even if they did fix it because of the kind of community/people the game is attracting. Seems like the same old F2P crowd with all the bigotry, entitlement, and other BS that comes with it.

 

The forums looks strange to me... I would not be surprised if it's about 10 people raising hell. In game the community is pretty cool. The game is very social, people are helpfull, even funny. The forums look like a different world. Idk.

It's because there is a difference. People usually do not go to forums to praise a game, unless they are fanboys. The people that go to the forums tend to be the people who have something to complain about. So in game you see all the people actually enjoying the game, but the second you step out you see the vocal minority in the forums.

  Wankyudo

Novice Member

Joined: 1/17/04
Posts: 145

12/25/12 1:46:20 PM#60
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by lantesh1
Originally posted by Biskop
@ Lady Euphei

I'm not angry, just a bit sick of things like this being blown out of proportion by people who seem to think they should have some special treatment just because they spent their money. It would have been different if there was some kind of scam or shady business involved here, but the offer was very clear and straightforward, so these people have no one but themselves to blame if they feel they haven't got their money's worth.


All goods may eventually lose their value, and deals come and go. This includes virtual goods. Crying about it won't change a thing, it just makes the crying person look like a moron for not investigating the deal before spending money.


Oh, and a merry christmas to you too btw. : ) Some of us do celebrate it here in the barbarian lands beyond the US borders.

 

Honestly, I've been seeing a lot of that over on the forum. Not just regarding the elite/deluxe deals (which while my understanding of the situation is slim as I don't care to get into it, seems to be an inability to wrap ones head around the idea that a deal available at one time at one price doesn't mean the same deal will be available later) but in regards to pretty much everything. Lots of people throwing fits on the forum and acting like the company should be licking their heel because they bought some gold. As it stands, I don't like their F2P model (rental items need to go, and people are already buying their way to power with cultivation boosts...) but I don't think I would play at this point even if they did fix it because of the kind of community/people the game is attracting. Seems like the same old F2P crowd with all the bigotry, entitlement, and other BS that comes with it.

 

The forums looks strange to me... I would not be surprised if it's about 10 people raising hell. In game the community is pretty cool. The game is very social, people are helpfull, even funny. The forums look like a different world. Idk.

Funny enough, it is around 10 people doing that.  Five-six of them in particular literally go to every single thread that they can, talking about the deluxe vs elite or how Snails is bad, and we shouldn't play this, and etc. and etc.  At this point I remembered why I didn't like forums in the first place and just went back to enjoying my game.

 

On another note, Merry Christmas everyone

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