Originally posted by Asheram

good luck in your endeavors and I hope your game prospers but it wont be on my dime.

Wait,

They gave you everything demanded and your still not happy?

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Asheram

good luck in your endeavors and I hope your game prospers but it wont be on my dime.

Wait,

They gave you everything demanded and your still not happy?

wait you cant stand not having the last word.?

You must be damage control because I doubt anyone would be so tenacious about this.

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

They actually addressed this issue,

people will be getting the mount. No refunds needed over the pony. The deleted chracter no item transfer is considered valid at the moment.

The deleted character problem, if they were to allow players from deleting and re-creating a new character wouldnt this be prone to abuse if the benefits are easily transfered to another character and I get unlimited benefits by repeating this.

The problem is they did not have a safety mechanism to prevent this from happening.

Originally posted by Cetra

yeah one major reason holding me back from this game is you have to delete your char to join another school. To me, it like having only 1 class to play in a MMO.

and you lose all yr stuff too.

I love this in an mmorpg...and i think all games called mmorpgs should have this rule.

I JUST realized what mount situation you guys were talking about. I'm an elite member. 

Just to put things in perspective, I've venderd 2 or 3 horse because of full bags. They give you give bags throughout the day just for being online. You get horse in those gift bags. No one will ever be w/o a horse...

The delete your toon, make a new one, but perks not carring over is iffy, agreed. I get it, you made a choice, this is what you live with. It is not what people are used to though in this age of leveling alts over and over. Get to level cap, then do it again. That time of game play is for the birds imo.

edit - just logged in, guess what? I got another horse. This time it can hold 2 people! pretty cool.

Originally posted by Cetra

yeah one major reason holding me back from this game is you have to delete your char to join another school. To me, it like having only 1 class to play in a MMO.

and you lose all yr stuff too.

they could fix this by implementing a betrayal / transfer system. You could betray your school and join a different school. If you leave a good-side school and join an evil-side school or viceversa you are marked as a betrayer and have a temporary debuff or some mechanic like this one to actually give some value to do transfer or betrayals and not just some generic faction swap. If you join a new school within the same side (good, evil, neutral) you could file for a transfer. Same for the neutral side. Any transfer / betrayal can have benefit / consequences to your own character.

one can only dream..... :(  great idea tho.

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Cetra

yeah one major reason holding me back from this game is you have to delete your char to join another school. To me, it like having only 1 class to play in a MMO.

and you lose all yr stuff too.

they could fix this by implementing a betrayal / transfer system. You could betray your school and join a different school. If you leave a good-side school and join an evil-side school or viceversa you are marked as a betrayer and have a temporary debuff or some mechanic like this one to actually give some value to do transfer or betrayals and not just some generic faction swap. If you join a new school within the same side (good, evil, neutral) you could file for a transfer. Same for the neutral side. Any transfer / betrayal can have benefit / consequences to your own character.

 

one can only dream..... :(  great idea tho.

Great idea. 

correct me if i'm wrong but... isn't it still in closed beta so all characters will be wiped and everyone who rejoins the game will be reawarded the deluxe items at launch anyways?

@ The one school complaint

Honestly all games should be this way... there is no solid community building reason someone should be able to be both factions or all the factions if more existed. That's preposterous, unfortunately communities of modern day MMOs and the games themselves have been so meaningless in the community facet that this trend has also died but with each Sandbox companies try to bring it back only to be thwarted by multiple copy purchasers. 

Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM

correct me if i'm wrong but... isn't it still in closed beta so all characters will be wiped and everyone who rejoins the game will be reawarded the deluxe items at launch anyways?

 

@ The one school complaint

 

Honestly all games should be this way... there is no solid community building reason someone should be able to be both factions or all the factions if more existed. That's preposterous, unfortunately communities of modern day MMOs and the games themselves have been so meaningless in the community facet that this trend has also died but with each Sandbox companies try to bring it back only to be thwarted by multiple copy purchasers. 

No wipe this beta.  I'm kinda torn on the idea. While I'm happy because I'm playing now, knowing that this counts, I'm not used to no wipes. 

Originally posted by Siveria
If this game was f2p i'd probally play it, but I am pretty much done buying random mmo's because they are almost always a letdown.

correct me if im wrong. THis game is Free to Play. You can buy acces to beta by buying like a founder pack or something, but the game will be free at launch, no need to buy a client. I dont like buying beta access so ill wait for launch.

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Siveria
If this game was f2p i'd probally play it, but I am pretty much done buying random mmo's because they are almost always a letdown.

correct me if im wrong. THis game is Free to Play. You can buy acces to beta by buying like a founder pack or something, but the game will be free at launch, no need to buy a client. I dont like buying beta access so ill wait for launch.

Ahh cool, yeah I'm gonna just wait for release then, the game seems kinda intersting.

Originally posted by Siveria

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Siveria
If this game was f2p i'd probally play it, but I am pretty much done buying random mmo's because they are almost always a letdown.

correct me if im wrong. THis game is Free to Play. You can buy acces to beta by buying like a founder pack or something, but the game will be free at launch, no need to buy a client. I dont like buying beta access so ill wait for launch.

Ahh cool, yeah I'm gonna just wait for release then, the game seems kinda intersting.

indeed. Also, you can try the beta for free for a limited 10 hours (1 hour per day).... lol

ill just wait for launch to avoid spoiling my experience

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Cetra

yeah one major reason holding me back from this game is you have to delete your char to join another school. To me, it like having only 1 class to play in a MMO.

and you lose all yr stuff too.

they could fix this by implementing a betrayal / transfer system. You could betray your school and join a different school. If you leave a good-side school and join an evil-side school or viceversa you are marked as a betrayer and have a temporary debuff or some mechanic like this one to actually give some value to do transfer or betrayals and not just some generic faction swap. If you join a new school within the same side (good, evil, neutral) you could file for a transfer. Same for the neutral side. Any transfer / betrayal can have benefit / consequences to your own character.

 

one can only dream..... :(  great idea tho.

Great idea. 

One of the reasons a sandbox can get away with one character (Eve or Wushu) is because you can eventually get all the skills of another school...theoretically, by stealing the skills. There is also nothing stopping you from going to the other schools to see the content (visually) in fact a large part of the "daily's" can be going  to spy on the other school grounds.

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Cetra

yeah one major reason holding me back from this game is you have to delete your char to join another school. To me, it like having only 1 class to play in a MMO.

and you lose all yr stuff too.

they could fix this by implementing a betrayal / transfer system. You could betray your school and join a different school. If you leave a good-side school and join an evil-side school or viceversa you are marked as a betrayer and have a temporary debuff or some mechanic like this one to actually give some value to do transfer or betrayals and not just some generic faction swap. If you join a new school within the same side (good, evil, neutral) you could file for a transfer. Same for the neutral side. Any transfer / betrayal can have benefit / consequences to your own character.

 

one can only dream..... :(  great idea tho.

Great idea. 

 

One of the reasons a sandbox can get away with one character (Eve or Wushu) is because you can eventually get all the skills of another school...theoretically, by stealing the skills. There is also nothing stopping you from going to the other schools to see the content (visually) in fact a large part of the "daily's" can be going  to spy on the other school grounds.

 

I have no problems the way the system is. In fact I like it. I know it's a hard pill to swallow for some though.