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  RedJorge

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Joined: 1/07/11
Posts: 105

Sheldon Cooper: Leonard, be serious. We're playing a game here. (Big Bang Theory)

 
12/23/12 4:51:33 AM#1

A picture is worth a thousand words...(Graph credits to http://www.gw2spidy.com/gem)


Leonard: Penny, you are on fire.
Penny: Yes, so is Sheldon.
[laughs]
Sheldon: Okay, that's it. I don't know how, but she is cheating. No-one can be that attractive and this skilled at a video game.
[walks away]
Penny: Wait, wait. Sheldon. Come back, you forgot something.
Sheldon: What?
Penny: This plasma grenade.
[explosion]
Penny: [laughs] Look! It's raining you.
Sheldon: You laugh now. You just wait until you need tech support. (Big Bang Theory)

  Eluldor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/20/08
Posts: 985

12/23/12 5:05:45 AM#2

This isn't a picture, It is a chart with a bunch of text.

Ninja loot drop nerf thing didn't seem to do anything to stop me from lvling and gearing a couple characters to 80.

Back when 100 gems were 30-35 silver was nice though. Bought a bunch of bank space back then :)

  loki27

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Joined: 9/10/09
Posts: 20

12/23/12 5:07:26 AM#3

I have no idea what's with all that "huge ninja loot drop nerf"; I or my guildmates haven't noticed any loot nerf except for dyes lately (which of course doesn't mean it didn't happen but it looks like it's just people getting more desperate for a legendary that is still as far away as it was two months ago).

This being said, however, yes, it is now nearly impossible for a non-hardcore player to buy anything from the gem store for coin. I remember getting a bank expansion soon after release for some 1.5 gold, now it would cost around 12...

Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

  Swanea

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2282

12/23/12 5:14:00 AM#4
Did you expect them to make money from only box sales?
  RedJorge

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Joined: 1/07/11
Posts: 105

Sheldon Cooper: Leonard, be serious. We're playing a game here. (Big Bang Theory)

 
12/23/12 5:59:05 AM#5
Originally posted by Swanea
Did you expect them to make money from only box sales?

No.

 

I just expect ArenaNet to be honest about the ninja loot drop nerf but they keep lying to their player base as can be seen in the GW2 official forums.

Leonard: Penny, you are on fire.
Penny: Yes, so is Sheldon.
[laughs]
Sheldon: Okay, that's it. I don't know how, but she is cheating. No-one can be that attractive and this skilled at a video game.
[walks away]
Penny: Wait, wait. Sheldon. Come back, you forgot something.
Sheldon: What?
Penny: This plasma grenade.
[explosion]
Penny: [laughs] Look! It's raining you.
Sheldon: You laugh now. You just wait until you need tech support. (Big Bang Theory)

  Xsonic

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Joined: 11/07/04
Posts: 84

A mind without purpose will wander in dark places.

12/23/12 6:08:23 AM#6
Shady business. Me no likey.


EVE Online 21 days trial from me! In-game guidance just msg. me. For mature players only unless you can take the steepest learning curve and be able to get over losses.

  Pivotelite

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/19/12
Posts: 2111

12/23/12 6:12:22 AM#7
Originally posted by RedJorge
Originally posted by Swanea
Did you expect them to make money from only box sales?

No.

 

I just expect ArenaNet to be honest about the ninja loot drop nerf but they keep lying to their player base as can be seen in the GW2 official forums.

 I remember in that halloween maze there were those two bosses that once defeated dropped a chest, first few times after the event started it dropped good loot, exotics, etc, then Anet realized people were making money and they nerfed it into the ground without telling anyone and didn't respond on the forums.

 

I also like the diminishing returns on events, dungeons... just about everything. Also love the repair costs/siege prices in WvW, WvW costs you tons of money to actively play.

 

GW2 is just a cash cow, they went with the B2P model and as a result they need to find ways to encourage people to spend irl money and limiting ways to make gold is a very efficient one.

  RedJorge

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Joined: 1/07/11
Posts: 105

Sheldon Cooper: Leonard, be serious. We're playing a game here. (Big Bang Theory)

 
12/23/12 6:39:43 AM#8
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by RedJorge
Originally posted by Swanea
Did you expect them to make money from only box sales?

No.

 

I just expect ArenaNet to be honest about the ninja loot drop nerf but they keep lying to their player base as can be seen in the GW2 official forums.

 I remember in that halloween maze there were those two bosses that once defeated dropped a chest, first few times after the event started it dropped good loot, exotics, etc, then Anet realized people were making money and they nerfed it into the ground without telling anyone and didn't respond on the forums.

 

I also like the diminishing returns on events, dungeons... just about everything. Also love the repair costs/siege prices in WvW, WvW costs you tons of money to actively play.

 

GW2 is just a cash cow, they went with the B2P model and as a result they need to find ways to encourage people to spend irl money and limiting ways to make gold is a very efficient one.

Pivotelite,

 

Fully agree with you.

Actually, because the game has no guild features worth the name but it is a very efficient cash cow, I propose to change its name from Guild Wars 2 to Gold Wars 2.

Leonard: Penny, you are on fire.
Penny: Yes, so is Sheldon.
[laughs]
Sheldon: Okay, that's it. I don't know how, but she is cheating. No-one can be that attractive and this skilled at a video game.
[walks away]
Penny: Wait, wait. Sheldon. Come back, you forgot something.
Sheldon: What?
Penny: This plasma grenade.
[explosion]
Penny: [laughs] Look! It's raining you.
Sheldon: You laugh now. You just wait until you need tech support. (Big Bang Theory)

  saurus123

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 360

12/23/12 6:43:51 AM#9
Originally posted by RedJorge
Originally posted by Swanea
Did you expect them to make money from only box sales?

No.

 

I just expect ArenaNet to be honest about the ninja loot drop nerf but they keep lying to their player base as can be seen in the GW2 official forums.

theres no ninja loot drop nerf

you got unlucky streak thats all

or you hit DR becouse of non stop farming in same spot

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
Posts: 8718

EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :)

12/23/12 6:49:03 AM#10
Originally posted by Pivotelite

GW2 is just a cash cow, they went with the B2P model and as a result they need to find ways to encourage people to spend irl money and limiting ways to make gold is a very efficient one.

I don't think that term means what you think it means. However, I do not want to discourage any of the tinfoil hattery here, so please carry on.

filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community.

Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix?

filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding.

  Soraksis

Elite Member

Joined: 9/12/06
Posts: 222

12/23/12 6:52:08 AM#11

People will find some of the dumbest things to complain about.  OMG a company had to find a way to make money so people can play a AAA game with out subs and still have access to full content.  Those greedy bastards how dare they make a profit. 

  saurus123

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 360

12/23/12 6:56:00 AM#12
Originally posted by Pivotelite

 I remember in that halloween maze there were those two bosses that once defeated dropped a chest, first few times after the event started it dropped good loot, exotics, etc, then Anet realized people were making money and they nerfed it into the ground without telling anyone and didn't respond on the forums.

 

I also like the diminishing returns on events, dungeons... just about everything. Also love the repair costs/siege prices in WvW, WvW costs you tons of money to actively play.

 

GW2 is just a cash cow, they went with the B2P model and as a result they need to find ways to encourage people to spend irl money and limiting ways to make gold is a very efficient one.

halloween maze chest were bugged and ppl exploited it

you could just kill these bosses on one server logout, login and you land on an overflow server where you kill them again and loot the chests

this was bug that was fast fixed and there was no drop nerf you still got the same chance to get exotic just couldnt exploit it

 

as for the WvW costs seems you are just a bad player or entered with low lvl, you can make enough money and free siege eq

 

but in the end if you didnt get 1 rare in an hour then it must be ninja drop loot nerf

  Sciva

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/08/07
Posts: 241

12/23/12 6:57:34 AM#13
  Roxtarr

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/17/12
Posts: 910

12/23/12 7:02:51 AM#14
Looks to me like it's starting a downward trend.   This is good news, thanks OP for sharing this graph :D

If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.

  RedJorge

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/07/11
Posts: 105

Sheldon Cooper: Leonard, be serious. We're playing a game here. (Big Bang Theory)

 
12/23/12 12:06:15 PM#15
Originally posted by Roxtarr
Looks to me like it's starting a downward trend.   This is good news, thanks OP for sharing this graph :D

We will see what happens..:)

One thing I am sure, ArenaNet will never assume the ninja loot drop nerf.

Leonard: Penny, you are on fire.
Penny: Yes, so is Sheldon.
[laughs]
Sheldon: Okay, that's it. I don't know how, but she is cheating. No-one can be that attractive and this skilled at a video game.
[walks away]
Penny: Wait, wait. Sheldon. Come back, you forgot something.
Sheldon: What?
Penny: This plasma grenade.
[explosion]
Penny: [laughs] Look! It's raining you.
Sheldon: You laugh now. You just wait until you need tech support. (Big Bang Theory)

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 1714

12/23/12 12:49:11 PM#16

I'm not enterely sure what is the point of this thread.

If everyone is buying gems to trade for gold the VALUE OF GEMS SHOULD DECREASE.

What this tells me is PEOPLE HAVE MORE MONEY NOW.

GEMS are worth more gold now -> this mean there is more gold, not less.

To the pink arrow to be supported you need GEMS to lower in terms of gold.

So THE PINK ARROW ISN'T SUPPORTED BY THE DATA!

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  pedrostrik

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Joined: 4/07/10
Posts: 395

12/23/12 12:56:14 PM#17
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

I'm not interely sure what is the point of this thread.

If everyone is buying gems to trade for gold the VALUE OF GEMS SHOULD DECREASE.

What this tells me is PEOPLE HAVE MORE MONEY NOW.

So THE PINK ARROW ISN'T SUPPORTED BY THE DATA!

i was wondering about that either, kind'a odd if people buys so many Gems with RM why in the hell gems are so expensive in gold from game?

and about that nerf , still theres ways to get gold, take more time and we must give more effort to get it, but if we still farm nods and some diferent instances by day we can still get our pocket full of in game gold.

I know people with more than 2000 gold and didnt spend RM in a single gem.

  Kyleran

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12/23/12 1:10:06 PM#18
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

I'm not enterely sure what is the point of this thread.

If everyone is buying gems to trade for gold the VALUE OF GEMS SHOULD DECREASE.

What this tells me is PEOPLE HAVE MORE MONEY NOW.

GEMS are worth more gold now -> this mean there is more gold, not less.

To the pink arrow to be supported you need GEMS to lower in terms of gold.

So THE PINK ARROW ISN'T SUPPORTED BY THE DATA!

The point of this thread is the OP can't get over the fact ANET won't admit do to something they probably didn't do.

Peoples imaginations really seem to run wild these days when observing statistical data..

 

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  Eir_S

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12/23/12 1:13:37 PM#19
Is the sky STILL falling? 

no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled

  QSatu

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Joined: 10/14/06
Posts: 1710

12/23/12 1:16:20 PM#20
The more money people have in game the more gems they could buy. I seriously doubt the supply of gems increases over time. So the price of gems increasing is a logical thing. But i GUESS op has problems with logical thinking and is one of those sheep posters which repeat after everyone else the same thing. Go on and have a fun time with tin foil hat.
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