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12/21/12 1:59:13 PM#41
Originally posted by Nitth 2) Loot rolls. Need/Greed crap. 3) But GW2 doesn't say "sorry mate you killed them but I'vent told you so so you get no reward. If you want the reward go kill them again". 4) Get tedious - you will be spamming it. FPS have a comfortable way of spamming in the left mouse key. I'll most likely have 2 builders in TSW so I can't really remap it to the left mouse button and I'll be losing other stuff anyway. GW2 ability to set the auto attack on the spammer is much better IMO. 5) Or just like your character has no motor problems plus the fact of spamming the builders. 6) The world of GW2 isn't a question of perception - stuff is happening, groups of mobs come and wage war, NPCs roam, including traders when they feel the need to go explore a mysterious lab, restock their supply of dolyak meat or just go drop a bomb on skritt thieves. Or maybe the NPCs just need a dolyak caravan and send a courier pidgeon and a few minutes a caravan approaches. The vicinity can be half the map away. The world of TSW is cardboard and the only life are the players. 7) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EatEqHF7w -> lets open the arms as if I have wings and glide... 1) It might be subjective but one is winning prizes (including public choices) the other isn't. One sells over 2 million copies the other sells under 200K. People like different things but there are things that aren't a matter of opinion and that is why improving combat animations have been one of the focus of TSW devs. Currently playing: GW2 |
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12/21/12 2:30:35 PM#42
If your game places emphasis on loot, and follows an rng system. Then you need a system that will distribute that fairly. Personally Guildwars 2's system of "everyone gets the loot" is unrealistic. However convenient for a certain crow of players. Both systems are plausible for games imo. If an event isnt happening you don't get rewarded retrospectively. Initialization of an event is the same as an initialization of a mission.
Still requires repetitive activation of an ability. Except in gw2's case its automated hidden. I could make the case that its lazy to use auto attacks but whats the point, The systems are what they are love it or loath them. Not quite sure what you mean by "motor problems" bu the spaming of builders has been discussed above. As a thief, I can spam my first ability so that all the dots an such are applied to the target while i wait for initiative to build. or i could assign auto attack to automate the process. Like i said above tsw is not so different, Your still waiting for resources to come up, repetitive actions happening in between. Its all an illusion they are on scripted paths the npcs your talking about. Both games employ a LARGE number of static npcs. In fact i would wager that most npcs in gw2 are static. On TSW: Does the train master need to move around agartha? I suppose he could but his job is welcome new agents into Agatha. Could sheriff andy move around the kingsmouth police station? sure. Is it just as believable that hes posted on top of the building? yep. I think they key thing here is, in guild wars 2 your saying that to get your connection with the npcs you see them walk around and they make the world believable. TSW uses cut scenes to portray the connection to the characters and the world. I think tsw gives a deeper level of complexity to npcs and world that gw2 does imo. even if it does take some imagination. If were going by lore were conduits of anima having extra human strength like falling vast distances aswell as jumping quite high. I dont see anything wrong with the animation providing you invision that your character operates with a different lvl of physics.
Doest make it the better game. Hype, Marketing, Popularity all comes into play. TSW was greet with great asteem when it first came out, and gammers hailed its "uniqueness".
The animations imo are fine, Considering its not an fps but and basicly your throwing numbers at people instead of bullets. However it they think they can gain more profit from making the animations more inline with what crics want. more power to them.
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12/21/12 2:45:54 PM#43
My opinion is GW2 is well worth the money. Its not the be all end all of MMOs but overall its a fun, well developed game. I personally am taking a break to play TSW ( which IMO is a great game also ), but I feel GW2 was money well spent . Even if I never played it again the many hours of entertainment was worth it. Will it be for you? I dunno. My suggestion is read up on it, make an informed decision if that what you want to buy ( or not ) and go with it. If your strapped and $60 is not worth spending on a game you may ( may not ) like then pass until you KNOW you have found something worth buying.
My 2cp
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JoeyMMO
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Joined: 10/09/11
To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug* |
12/21/12 3:18:29 PM#44
Originally posted by Renton81 You missed the free trial, but the game is worth getting and playing if you're into where they're going what they're doing with the game. It's quite refreshing for more casual players that don't want to organize their real life around a holy video game.   |
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12/21/12 3:23:41 PM#45
GW2 is worth getting because you get quite a bit for the money. It's not the greatest game ever, but I got like 3 weeks out of it before getting bored at launch, then a couple months go by and now I hopped back in and have been playing for a bit over a week and enjoying myself a good bit again. You may enjoy it for more or less time than I did, but I personally think it's worth the money, whether or not it has the most compelling gameplay or not. I find it doesn't really excel at any one aspect, but it's kinda like a MMO-of-all-trades: nothing amazing, but nothing truly terrible, either. |
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12/21/12 3:29:08 PM#46
The same handful of super rabid GW2 fans are leading so many people down the hype and dissapointment road.
"1000 hours played and I haven't even scratched the surface of what this game has to offer!"
Yeah... okay then, you go back to your dream world where GW2 somehow magically filled itself full of fun meaningful content.
Anyways, if you hated GW1, GW2 is an entirely different game...personally I feel it's worse. So I don't know how that would relate with you.
If in GW2 you want PvP with no purpose, gear with no purpose, no community aspect and zerg events with bot friends from 1-69 then a zerg in a typical zombie infested wasteland until 80 only to realize you can do all the content in the game with the gear you dinged 80 in...then you're in luck! Also once your character hits level 40, expect nothing to change from level 40-80, literally, no skill, character or trait development, they just added those 40 levels because... I honestly have no idea. Maybe they didn't feel there were enough centaurs in the game, so they had to add two more zones full of only centaurs, talk about repetitive mobs.
Also there's no mounts, it's heavily instanced and you can instantly teleport anywhere on the map with the click of a button once you've been there before.
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12/21/12 3:43:27 PM#47
If you have to question a game that has won multiple Game of the Year awards, RPG of the year awards, MMORPG of the year awards, etc. than why would you come here for information? Do you honestly think that you'll get unbias opinions and not a slew of troll posts?
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick. |
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12/21/12 4:23:23 PM#48
Originally posted by eyelolled I can almost consider some of the GW2 fanboys posts to be troll posts, especially ones who think "game of the year" means anything, especially when opinions are subjective and even after some sites posted that it is game of the year they then posted articles critisizing the various flaws with the game.
Or the guy whos said "after 1000 hours played I havent even scratched the surface on what to do in this MMO".... after 1000 hours played I could have every class at 80 in full exotics and rank 10 in PvP with 5 100% map completions and 500g. That post was just a downright lie.
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12/21/12 4:34:08 PM#49
Originally posted by Pivotelite I think that's what that poster meant. Was talking about the fans and not getting an honest review / evaluation from them because of bias. (Hence why GW2 won those awards instead of more deserving games)
Or thats how I read it anyways. Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History" |
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12/21/12 4:36:04 PM#50
Originally posted by Pivotelite Your 1000 hours may mean somethign different, mine 300 hours in spvp and roughly 300 or a bit more in WvW, and 70 ish in PvE.
So please try to think out side of the box before you just start you know.... well nvm carry on |
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12/21/12 4:49:14 PM#51
Originally posted by Pivotelite My feelings exactly. It's not the worst game, but hardly worth getting |
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12/21/12 4:51:15 PM#52
Originally posted by Renton81 If you are still reading this thread, you should have easily noticed a couple of things:
Ultimately, its up to you how you proceed. I tried it and wished I hadn't spent the $60. It was pretty, but it was an over-hyped, shallow, grindfest and the combat mechanics and classes did not agree with me at all. Content for me is not running around a map to look at every corner just because there isn't much else to do, or grind for cosmetic gear skins. Its not substantive. It is pretty, but there are much better games out there worth investing into if you want any semblance of depth.
But, all that is my opinion. If you want to try it, do. Maybe you'll love it, maybe you won't. |
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12/21/12 5:07:49 PM#53
Originally posted by Telondariel Nah so far the only rabid attacks and outlandish posts have come from a few haters that still troll these forums. A lot seem to be TSW fans which is sad. No idea why some can't let go of the fact that TSW didn't perform as well as GW2 did at launch. It's not the end of the world. GW2 being worth a buy is a hard thing to argue against. It's a AAA MMO with a great deal of polish and a ton of content for that $60. For the record I've even gotten on board behind TSW since it's conversion to buy to play, it wasn't worth a sub but as a buy to play the value is there.
No reason to attack fans simply because you don't agree with them :) |
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12/21/12 5:44:03 PM#54
And how exactly did we get on the topic of TSW vs GW2? same culprits everytime.
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12/21/12 5:49:26 PM#55
for the first 2 weeks of playing , yes , but after that its boring and nothing fun about it
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12/21/12 5:53:08 PM#56
Originally posted by Telondariel The red part is absolute troll: guys that left the game are all great human beings; guys that challenge them are evil fanboys. Over-hyped doesn't reduce the quality of the product. Shallow why? Grindfest in a game people can reach level cap and have max stats items in 100 hours? Lie. (Ascended items changed it a bit but there is only rings and backslots but those are recent additions). The green is a valid and honest argument. It is a shame that people don't then give examples what real content is or what amazing MMORPGs are out there much better than GW2 and with so much more depth and just stay on generalaties. Currently playing: GW2 |
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12/21/12 5:55:58 PM#57
Originally posted by Pivotelite Now wait a minute Pivot, lets not be so harsh about the erhmmm relevant GOTY awards that GW2 has been awarded , i mean afterall it did beat out FTL and Hotline Miami , soooo ....... LOL most people dont even no what those two games are thats how relevant IGN competiton is amongst others ... even these review sites become like sheep feeling they need to give GW2 cred or they will lose cred .... |
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12/21/12 5:58:57 PM#58
Originally posted by Nitth That was you. With the following post. Originally posted by Nitth Sure you can run around but those game are worse for the people that enjoy GW2. And I gave you some reasons why GW2 is imo better than TSW. Why TSW? Because I play it and you play it as well. It is not my fault that I feel those things when I play TSW and apparently many other think of it as well - vide the gamespot videos about the 2012 awards or many other material published by media, where people time and again talk on how playing other games after GW2 keep thinking "why couldn't this be like in GW2". Currently playing: GW2 |
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12/21/12 6:00:54 PM#59
Where. Show me where i incited a TSW vs Gw2 debate?
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12/21/12 6:01:29 PM#60
Originally posted by Scorchien Wait wait it also beat AC3, ME3, CODBLOPS2, D3, XCOM:EU amongst other heavy hitters. But it is funny GW2 wins because it was overhyped so the media runs along with it, but then less hyped great games are nominated over much better known titles and people still complain about it Currently playing: GW2 |
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