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  SEANMCAD

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12/21/12 1:31:05 PM#41
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Correlation does not imply causation

  Justin9820

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Joined: 10/08/09
Posts: 51

12/21/12 1:33:26 PM#42
Its funny, OP gave up on this after being completely ignorant to the other side of the argument. Why make a thread if you dont want to hear the answer you dont want to?
  Badaboom

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Posts: 2389

12/21/12 1:37:16 PM#43
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

  SEANMCAD

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5322

12/21/12 1:41:56 PM#44
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

Why put in a feature that the vast majortiy of your players are not intrested in? I am not sure how long you were in the darkfall community but I was in for a long time and from the start, the vast majority of players wouldnt be all that intrested in chat bubbles and a good amount of them might have even decided not to play because of them so why bother with the dev time?

 

AV wanted people to be in battles, combat, running around and exploring. Not sitting around chatting. Is it common that people sit around in chat to gather groups and trade? sure. Is it an expression of VAST inexperience to think that there isnt also a lot of simple social chit chat going on as well? yes

 

Correlation does not imply causation

  hcoelho

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Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 523

 
OP  12/21/12 1:43:48 PM#45
Originally posted by Justin9820
Its funny, OP gave up on this after being completely ignorant to the other side of the argument. Why make a thread if you dont want to hear the answer you dont want to?

I gave up dealing with the insane guy.  Yes i did

 you can talk against it as much as you want to, but as a toggleable feature, there is not much to go against it, you use it if you want to. 

I'm up to discussion, no point being here otherwise.

  hcoelho

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Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 523

 
OP  12/21/12 1:44:27 PM#46
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

Why put in a feature that the vast majortiy of your players are not intrested in? I am not sure how long you were in the darkfall community but I was in for a long time and from the start, the vast majority of players wouldnt be all that intrested in chat bubbles and a good amount of them might have even decided not to play because of them so why bother with the dev time?

 

AV wanted people to be in battles, combat, running around and exploring. Not sitting around chatting. Is it common that people sit around in chat to gather groups and trade? sure. Is it an expression of VAST inexperience to think that there isnt also a lot of simple social chit chat going on as well? yes

Explain FUN HULKS, then.

 

edit: maybe i didn't, this guy is a gem lol

  SEANMCAD

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Posts: 5322

12/21/12 1:46:41 PM#47
Originally posted by Elandir90

Explain FUN HULKS, then.

I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say 'nothing explains fun hulks or the limited use of them other than they most likely had an intern on the job who was working for free'

Correlation does not imply causation

  youngkg

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Joined: 1/06/08
Posts: 364

12/21/12 1:47:24 PM#48
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

Quite simply you'd be an idiot for using it in DF...So not many would use it....So why bother?

 

chat bubbles?...really?, Who the f&^# cares.

 

 

  hcoelho

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 523

 
OP  12/21/12 1:48:17 PM#49
Originally posted by youngkg
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

Quite simply you'd be an idiot for using it in DF...So not many would use it....So why bother?

 

chat bubbles?...really?, Who the f&^# cares.

 

 

The OP does !!!!

  SEANMCAD

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5322

12/21/12 1:48:56 PM#50
Originally posted by Elandir90
Originally posted by Justin9820
Its funny, OP gave up on this after being completely ignorant to the other side of the argument. Why make a thread if you dont want to hear the answer you dont want to?

I gave up dealing with the insane guy.  Yes i did

 you can talk against it as much as you want to, but as a toggleable feature, there is not much to go against it, you use it if you want to. 

I'm up to discussion, no point being here otherwise.

I could agree that a toggleable option could be on the table. One would have to make sure there wouldnt be any exploitable advantage to it. HOWEVER, with that said, like creating a voice chat engine in a game, if you player base isnt going to use it does it make sense to make?

not sure the advantage is there on chat bubbles in fact I know for a FACT that you would lose some players although in all fairness you might also gain some

Correlation does not imply causation

  Wizlock23

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Joined: 10/10/09
Posts: 113

12/21/12 1:49:37 PM#51

Sorry but i have to report for NDA, as ur commenting on features in a game that is under NDA still.

 

Edit: specific to the OP posting info that could only be found by playing beta, thus related directly to an ingame feature that is under NDA -

 

 Thanks ,

 

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2389

12/21/12 1:51:00 PM#52
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Kabaal
As long as they are off by default and don't indicate a persons location then i also dont see a problem, but i also dont see why theyre such a big deal.

This is why: (Pretty neat eh?!)

 

 

I think at its core this is a good visual of exactly what AV wanted to change about an MMO. Not just the fact of all the chat but the fact that everyone is sitting down not doing anything in game other than chatting

Invalid argument.  Some people are sitting around doing nothing.  Other people are trading, finding groups. 

and talking is also 'doing something'

venture to suggest you knew what I am really saying?

Your English is not the best so no, I don't always understand what you're trying to say.

Name one valid arguement for not putting in toggleable chat bubbles.  If you don't want them, uncheck them and BOOM, normal Darkfall.

Why put in a feature that the vast majortiy of your players are not intrested in? I am not sure how long you were in the darkfall community but I was in for a long time and from the start, the vast majority of players wouldnt be all that intrested in chat bubbles and a good amount of them might have even decided not to play because of them so why bother with the dev time?

 

AV wanted people to be in battles, combat, running around and exploring. Not sitting around chatting. Is it common that people sit around in chat to gather groups and trade? sure. Is it an expression of VAST inexperience to think that there isnt also a lot of simple social chit chat going on as well? yes

 

Like my example, I turn off all the chat windows and am in vent.  If there was a chat bubble I would be able to see what they are saying.  The problrm with a chat box is you dont know where the person is.  A lot of people want chat bubbles in Darkfall and there is no reason not to give it to them as long as they are toggleable/optional.

  hcoelho

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Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 523

 
OP  12/21/12 1:58:53 PM#53
Originally posted by Wizlock23

Sorry but i have to report for NDA, as ur commenting on features in a game that is under NDA still.

 

Edit: specific to the OP posting info that could only be found by playing beta, thus related directly to an ingame feature that is under NDA -

 

 Thanks ,

 

care to quote ?

  SEANMCAD

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12/21/12 1:59:08 PM#54
Originally posted by Badaboom

 

Like my example, I turn off all the chat windows and am in vent.  If there was a chat bubble I would be able to see what they are saying.  The problrm with a chat box is you dont know where the person is.  A lot of people want chat bubbles in Darkfall and there is no reason not to give it to them as long as they are toggleable/optional.

I dispute that many people in darkfall want chat bubbles. I know when I played the vast majority of people I played with would have laughed at such a suggestion. I also know that public chat was not very busy because most people were on vent, but maybe I am wrong.

 

never the less, I vote no for chat bubbles pending no personal detailed review on how it could be exploited to ones pvp advantage.

Correlation does not imply causation

  Yamota

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12/21/12 2:01:26 PM#55
Originally posted by Justin9820
OMG did you really just blame your lack of socializing on a lack of chat bubbles????

Yeah, so? Would not the lack of tongue or ears hinder socializing? Same thing with chat bubbles, its a means of communicating which is far better than a stupid chat box hidden in the corner.

  Latronus

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12/21/12 2:01:58 PM#56
Originally posted by Wizlock23

Sorry but i have to report for NDA, as ur commenting on features in a game that is under NDA still.

 

Edit: specific to the OP posting info that could only be found by playing beta, thus related directly to an ingame feature that is under NDA -

 

 Thanks ,

 

Party pooper!   Just kidding, but to the topic, I want play a game that has chat bubbles.  I have no problem using a chat window.

  Badaboom

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12/21/12 2:03:37 PM#57
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom

 

I dispute that many people in darkfall want chat bubbles. I know when I played the vast majority of people I played with would have laughed at such a suggestion. I also know that public chat was not very busy because most people were on vent, but maybe I am wrong.

 

never the less, I vote no for chat bubbles pending no personal detailed review on how it could be exploited to ones pvp advantage.

It could not be exploited because it would be optional. 

  Latronus

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12/21/12 2:04:46 PM#58
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Justin9820
OMG did you really just blame your lack of socializing on a lack of chat bubbles????

Yeah, so? Would not the lack of tongue or ears hinder socializing? Same thing with chat bubbles, its a means of communicating which is far better than a stupid chat box hidden in the corner.

I totally disagree.  Stupid chat bubbles popping up looks crude, amateurish, and low budget design to me.  We just have opposite likes it appears.

  Justin9820

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12/21/12 2:04:52 PM#59
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Badaboom

 

I dispute that many people in darkfall want chat bubbles. I know when I played the vast majority of people I played with would have laughed at such a suggestion. I also know that public chat was not very busy because most people were on vent, but maybe I am wrong.

 

never the less, I vote no for chat bubbles pending no personal detailed review on how it could be exploited to ones pvp advantage.

It could not be exploited because it would be optional. 

not exploitable, but chat bubbles would give an advantage to the people with them on.

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12/21/12 2:05:10 PM#60
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Justin9820
OMG did you really just blame your lack of socializing on a lack of chat bubbles????

Yeah, so? Would not the lack of tongue or ears hinder socializing? Same thing with chat bubbles, its a means of communicating which is far better than a stupid chat box hidden in the corner.

I guess my adversion to it outside of the fact that I personally cant stand them is that I fear it gives way to a different direction for Darkfall which I suspect is already happening anyway.

 

I mean, from what I have seen on the videos they have already given up on one of their main tentants which was 'no targeting systems target just like you would in real life!'

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