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12/21/12 6:42:04 AM#101
Originally posted by FARGIN_WAR GOOD SPOCK!!
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12/21/12 6:51:46 AM#102
This reminds me of my wife. If i tell her that her dress is ugly she wount believe me but if her friend tell he its ugly she'll change in a heartbeat.
Oh well what can you do.
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Normandy7
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Joined: 3/17/07
"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.” - Mordin Solus |
12/21/12 8:59:26 AM#103
Originally posted by rwyan Well compared to the other mmos that launched this year how could GW2 not win ? Ofcourse that isn't saying much for GW2 but someone has to win right ? I think.... |
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12/21/12 9:02:36 AM#104
Originally posted by xAPOCx Well mmorpg.com gain is gw2 forums loss because both creslin and korrigan are upto their usual antics over there and already getting insto same back and forth arguments which mirrored these forums. |
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12/21/12 9:05:22 AM#105
Originally posted by Zalmon let me show you my surprise face...
Please dont ban me lol. was just a joke =)
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12/21/12 9:05:57 AM#106
Originally posted by Normandy7 Why do publications even feel it's necessary to offer an MMO GOTY category for a genre that's had only a handful of releases in the last year? Maybe if some of these articles were clear on that aspect, that they're basically awarding mediocrity and have very little to choose from, I'd give them more credit for journalistic integrity. "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran) |
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12/21/12 9:11:30 AM#107
Originally posted by xAPOCx I do hope the people saying "good" and the like get a nice big lump of coal in their stockings this year. But...doubt it, TANFJ. |
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12/21/12 9:19:29 AM#108
Originally posted by Lawlmonster Remember, MMO's are the big budget games. X-Box, etc don't seem to be. This is the reason for the awards, I mean there are Oscoars and very few movies are new (many of them are remakes). There HAS to be awards for these games as the companies, even if you don't like the games, pour their hearts and souls into them. A.Net is very passionate about GW2 as it was with GW1.  "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." Abraham Lincoln |
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DeaconX
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Joined: 2/08/05
Stand up for what you believe; Even if you stand alone. |
12/21/12 9:22:53 AM#109
-Roles are horribly underexplained and unclear
Would have to agree I suppose - I mean, there are ROLES? It's mostly just people doing whatever they can/want to hehe. But that's actually something I like about it. There's great cohesion when you've got a group of friends playing who know how to work well together... otherwise it's a bunch of mavericks doing their best to survive.
-Dynamic events don't work in their role as quest replacements The game could really benefit from some decent, actual quest chains aside from the dynamic events - I'd especially love to see the 'stumble upon' type of quests that The Secret World has, which are triggered by items you find laying about in the world. -Area flow is problematic I haven't found this to be much of a problem for me. -Crafting is a freaking mess I've yet to find an MMORPG where I enjoy crafting. Guess I'm simply not the crafting type. -The story is weak ABSOLUTELY true. I'm so surprised by how much the stories of GW2 are NOT pulling me in. For all the talk of story, it's really quite unmemorable.
That being said, I still find it to be a great, fun game. However, if you're looking for awesome questing and GREAT, creative writing I'd urge you to give The Secret World a try. Many of the missions are very memorable :)  Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one. BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward. |
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12/21/12 9:26:07 AM#110
Originally posted by botrytis
Sounds like the "everyone's a winner" philosophy. I don't buy that. It's certainly possible to try hard at something and fail. It's also possible to work less than expected and succeed. |
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12/21/12 9:29:00 AM#111
My only real problem with Guild Wars 2 was that it was kind of boring.
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12/21/12 9:31:20 AM#112
Originally posted by Foomerang Understood, and this is where the article fails for me...
It is one thing to do a very in-depth overview of each of the game's systems, pointing out the negative and pointing out the postive. Highlighting where each feature fails and succeeds - especially if you are going to point out the game is in fact great, highly reccommended and very much deserving of "The" award.
What we have here is essentially a follow up review. The review after the review. And its contents lead me to beleive the author isn't exactly thrilled with the game. So was the M. Night Shyamalan twist at the end there for saving grace?
Its almost as if the author found out at the last hour that GW2 was awarded Game of Year by the very site he writes for.... and so.... left us with a very clumsy explanation as to why the game is "so great!" after just being told why it isn't so great.
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12/21/12 9:31:29 AM#113
Originally posted by red_cruiser How long have you played and what have you tried? There's plenty of different things to do. It's fully possible that it simply doesn't appeal to you however.
Have you done the Wintersday jumping puzzle yet? I find that one very nicely done. Oderint, dum metuant. |
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12/21/12 9:34:57 AM#114
Originally posted by botrytis This is referred to as rewarding mediocrity. There certainly doesn't have to be awards for these games every year, and whether or not a developer is passionate or works hard for something should make very little difference, if any at all. Indeed, because advertising and marketing is so important to the MMO industry, I'm not saying that I'm surprised by publications releasing GOTY's. Monetarily speaking, there's a great reason for it, but I was under the impression that journalism was about uncovering truths, and not about making dat skrilla. "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran) |
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12/21/12 9:34:58 AM#115
First off I LOVE GW2. For me there is very little to hate about the game. Of course no gmae is perfect. DE's are fun, and IMO a hellofalot beter than static questing. However there is room for imporovement. Perhaps a combination of the two where a quest line leads to a DE. I'm no game designer but the people at Anet are smart and will certainly see the flaws also. Final word though is I'M NOT GOING BACK to kill ten wolves/rats. The zones don't flow well. I must admit I sometimes miss rolls. I play with some talented people but ambiguous rolls do lead to difficulty in high level content. Still it is nice to be able to complete most content with a group of any class configuration. I don't miss the shoehorning at all. Crafting is VERY useful at all levels. I can make useful things from the outset. Unlike WoW and nearly every other game where crafting is nothing more than a time sink. To sum up. GW2 is not for traditional players. Fortunately there are more traditional gmaes out there. Do I think it deserves GotY, ABSOLUTELY.! Merry Christmas! |
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MadDemon64
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Joined: 4/19/08
Why is it that fantasy trolls are vulnerable to fire, but internet trolls thrive on flame wars? |
12/21/12 9:43:14 AM#116
Originally posted by BadSpock
-Roles are horribly underexplained and unclear I think it is less that they are underexplained, and more that everyone thinks each profession will play a specific way that, if traits aren't allotted the right way, does not happen. -Dynamic events don't work in their role as quest replacements Hit and miss for me. When I don't come across a dynamic event for a while, yea it feels like a poor quest replacement, but when I come across a big meta-event, it hits its quest replacement role out of the park -Area flow is problematic No argument here -Crafting is a freaking mess Now here I disagree completely. Crafting is very simplified, and the addition of discoveries is a welcome one. The only problem I have found with crafting is how you pretty much have to farm certain materials -The story is weak Again hit and miss. Love the first part of the Asura story, hate the first part of the Norn story, and thats just a minor example. Since when is Tuesday a direction? |
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12/21/12 9:46:58 AM#117
I disagree about crafting. It is very good in gw2. one of the best I've encountered. I mainly agree about personal storyline though. I like the lore but imo people resposible for personal storyline in gw2 should be fired and ANet should stop trying. I feel like all the work and money they put into it was such a waste. imagine how better it would be if instead they made some smaller 1hour long cool instanced quests. I'm sad that we will probably see another "chapter" of that abomination in 1st expansion.. ugh. So much wasted money. I think part of the problem is contrast. Most parts of the game are amazing and then we have something so incredibly mediocre that it looks far warse than it probably is. About the other points.. it's the same problem people had since beta. the game isn't explaining things good enough for some. |
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12/21/12 9:51:27 AM#118
Originally posted by QSatu I think the porblem is the PS could have used more money not less. They decided to money into game play - both PvE and PvP rather than the PS area. That may be your issue.
I have found the PS - up to level 50 very compelling, then they all blend together and that is where I have the issue. "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." Abraham Lincoln |
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12/21/12 9:57:08 AM#119
Originally posted by red_cruiser kind of a huge problem if you ask me. But like i said before. Some will see it just like you do and others will not.
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12/21/12 10:07:34 AM#120
Originally posted by Lawlmonster Not in this case at this time of the year. All these "most popular" lists are always done at this time of year and are ALWAYS subjective. ( No truth needed ) Best MMO 2012 GW2 Hottest man alive 2012 Channing Tatum Hottest wonen alive Mila Kunis Best Movie of the year. dont think they listed it yet. The list goes one and on year after year after year. In the end these lists mean nothing. Congrats to GW2 for winning GOTY whatever that means. And congrats to the winner next year and the year after that.
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