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  Lawlmonster

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12/21/12 8:47:31 AM#41
Originally posted by botrytis

People want everything now a days or they aren't happy.  Instead of saying, 'Grats to A.Net.' They say, WAHHHH - not my type of game - WAHHH.

 

I think there should be a rule, on all forums, that civility and never say a bad word type of sentiment be the number one rule. Oh wait, there wouldn't be any posts on the forum then.

I want you to delve a littler deeper, beyond the games and what it means to play them. Consider for a moment that the theory behind these products are human issues, and not solely related to gaming. I can understand how this can be a difficult thing to do. We play games for entertainment, and many people like to keep their enjoyment separate from their philosophy, when in fact the two collide on a very regular basis. Just on these forums alone, arguments between group oriented or solo play, what makes community and how to stimulate its growth, the business of selling hype or journalistic integrity, what it means to be immersed? These are underlying problems, questions, and theories that apply to nearly every other human interaction or activity when the gaming is stripped away.

 

So, no: we're not just talking about games. We're discussing philosophy and human nature, which is why you may take notice to certain individuals being less than civil from time to time. If everyone agreed that these forums existed only to speak of entertainment in a shallow, meaningless format, perhaps there wouldn't even be an MMORPG.com, a place that's thrived on the ability to foster debate.

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  Lovely_Laly

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12/21/12 8:57:30 AM#42


Originally posted by MikeJezZ
I really wished that this game would have been worth GOTY....

 

I was so overhyped for it for years, same with D3. D3 failed so bad. GW2 was allright. I really liked the starting areas, but the further I got into the game, the areas became more and more dull and boring.

 

GW2 is a game you complete and put on the shell. Sadly.


totally agree

try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2

  lizardbones

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12/21/12 9:03:14 AM#43

Well, I voted for The Walking Dead in all the polls I voted on, so it's not my fault.

Anyway, I think it's good that an MMORPG has gotten general purpose video game of the year awards in so many places. It means the genre itself is expanding and reaching more people. It's becoming a 'standard' of video games. To me this says they'll keep getting made, which means there's going to be more variety in the available options. I didn't play GW2, but I'm looking forward to what eventually results from stuff like GW2 getting GOTY awards.

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  Lawlmonster

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12/21/12 9:12:54 AM#44
Originally posted by lizardbones

Well, I voted for The Walking Dead in all the polls I voted on, so it's not my fault.

Anyway, I think it's good that an MMORPG has gotten general purpose video game of the year awards in so many places. It means the genre itself is expanding and reaching more people. It's becoming a 'standard' of video games. To me this says they'll keep getting made, which means there's going to be more variety in the available options. I didn't play GW2, but I'm looking forward to what eventually results from stuff like GW2 getting GOTY awards.

I wouldn't mind an MMO getting a general purpose video game award if it had been a shit year for single player or multiplayer PC titles, but it wasn't. Personally, I feel like this is rewarding mediocrity, and if anything is going to result from that it's the continuation of the same behavior, right?

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  Yamota

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12/21/12 9:19:53 AM#45
Originally posted by botrytis

People want everything now a days or they aren't happy.  Instead of saying, 'Grats to A.Net.' They say, WAHHHH - not my type of game - WAHHH.

 

I think there should be a rule, on all forums, that civility and never say a bad word type of sentiment be the number one rule. Oh wait, there wouldn't be any posts on the forum then.

I dont think GW 2 is a particulary good MMO and I dont think it deserves any rewards. How is that uncivil or bad to say that?

  lizardbones

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12/21/12 9:55:40 AM#46


Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Originally posted by lizardbones Well, I voted for The Walking Dead in all the polls I voted on, so it's not my fault. Anyway, I think it's good that an MMORPG has gotten general purpose video game of the year awards in so many places. It means the genre itself is expanding and reaching more people. It's becoming a 'standard' of video games. To me this says they'll keep getting made, which means there's going to be more variety in the available options. I didn't play GW2, but I'm looking forward to what eventually results from stuff like GW2 getting GOTY awards.
I wouldn't mind an MMO getting a general purpose video game award if it had been a shit year for single player or multiplayer PC titles, but it wasn't. Personally, I feel like this is rewarding mediocrity, and if anything is going to result from that it's the continuation of the same behavior, right?



Not to put to fine a point on it, but your individual opinion doesn't matter. Mine doesn't either for that matter. What you consider mediocrity, many other people consider innovative or at the very least, fun. I'm not going to go into why, because really, I have no idea. I voted for The Walking Dead in every category it appeared in.

There will be more of the same. Of course there will. It happens in every genre of video games. More of the same with slight variations. There won't be nothing but the same though. As more MMORPG are made, developers will have to differentiate themselves more from the other games if they want their game to sell.

So overall, if GW2 was simply the least bad game, or the best of the best or was picked for political reasons, the end result will be more MMORPG getting made, resulting in more varieties of MMORPG getting made. I could be wrong...it could be so expensive and take so long to produce MMORPG that the genre never really gets past what it is now. This is just my opinion, and as I said, it doesn't really matter outside of my head.

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  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

12/21/12 10:47:47 AM#47
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by QuicklyScott

All these awards and accolades put me in a weird position, I don't know what to make of it all.

 

I have never hated something that the masses seem to love so much(aside from a few pop music examples).

 

GW2 is in the top 5 worst games I've ever played.  Does that opinion make me some kind of douche hipster? Am I missing its brilliance?

I truely cannot fathom how this game can have so much interest.  I guess that makes me ignorant.

 

Am I a tiny minority?

No. There are lots of us who are not fooled with the shinies of GW 2. Look past all the BS and "reviews" and all you got is a mediocre MMORPG altough it is a great single player game which is probably why it is getting all these rewards.

You are both still in the minority.... not tiny, but the minority.

It is getting all these awards cuase it is better than the games who lost the awards. Why? Well, that is opinion. This game definantly deserves these awards, especially when it comes to *just* MMOs.

I would say the opposite. As a "just a game" it should probably get all these rewards as it is a great single player game. But as an MMO? Nope, nothing special about it.

I would like to know what MMO you think deserves these awards more? Not tryiing to be rude, I just want to see your preferences.

For 2012? None (except Tera for GFX which is far better than GW 2s). But that does not mean GW 2 is particulary good, it just means lack of good MMOs released that year.

As for titles released other years, WAR was the first who introduced dynamic quests as Public Quests and it had the concept of being able to PvP to level cap without doing any PvE. Both of these were innovative at the time. More over it had other useful features like offensive and defensive targets and far more interesting class mechanics than GW 2.

SW:TOR had far better single player stories if you are into that.

TERA better GFX as mentioned.

Darkfall had better open world PvP.

DAoC had better faction PvP.

Rift was more polished and expanded on the Dynamic events concept.

PS 2 had better combat and did TERA.

The fact that GW 2 got so many rewards shows the stagnate state of the MMO genre other than anything else.

 

I understand. However, I find gw2 innovative in that it placed all these features together for a rather low price, and in a lot of cases expanded (or atleast attempted to) on these ideas. We simply differ in opinions, and I can respect that. 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  Gaia_Hunter

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12/21/12 12:06:20 PM#48

GW2 is a great game, some will like it and some wont.

I've never liked The Elder Scrolls series that much but I don't spend my time trying to convince others it is a bad game or bashing it.

The fact many spend their time reliougiously stalking GW2 only speak volume of the game stature and size - no one spend their time bashing small games.

Also, I'm sorry to say but I'vent seen many PC GOTY or overall GOTY awards for SWTOR.

Some of the contenders GW2 go against include:

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Mass Effect 3

Dishonored

Dragon's Dogma

The Last Story

Torchlight II

The Secret World

FTL

Diablo III

Journey

Borderlands 2

Halo 4

Xenoblade Chronicles

CODBLOPS 2

ACIII

 

Yeah no good games at all, that has to be the reason GW2 is highly rated.

 

 

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  Gaia_Hunter

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12/21/12 12:18:09 PM#49
Originally posted by Yamota

For 2012? None (except Tera for GFX which is far better than GW 2s). But that does not mean GW 2 is particulary good, it just means lack of good MMOs released that year.

As for titles released other years, WAR was the first who introduced dynamic quests as Public Quests and it had the concept of being able to PvP to level cap without doing any PvE. Both of these were innovative at the time. More over it had other useful features like offensive and defensive targets and far more interesting class mechanics than GW 2.

SW:TOR had far better single player stories if you are into that.

TERA better GFX as mentioned.

Darkfall had better open world PvP.

DAoC had better faction PvP.

Rift was more polished and expanded on the Dynamic events concept.

PS 2 had better combat and did TERA.

The fact that GW 2 got so many rewards shows the stagnate state of the MMO genre other than anything else.

 

But SWTOR world and combat are: a static place and old combat systems.

But TERA PvE is worse, the world is dead as well and while the graphics engine is more powerful the art of GW2 is superior.

Darkfall is so good it has exactly 0 people on XFIRE playing it. Wait DF was shutdown and he is now in a beta for the reboot.

DAoC is also worse in everything else.

Rift world still feels dead and it still uses the "require target" to fire.

PS2 also has no PvE.

GW2 is just a better experience all around with a better combat than the majority of the games and it has one world that feels alive with NPCs moving around doing their business.

Again people answer to GW2 is to state a list of games and pick the best aspect of each and say in that aspect and that aspect only it tops GW2.

The problem is GW2 tops all those other games on the rest.

Full package that can and will expand/improve vs a detail.

Plus the uniqueness among those MMORPGs of not having a tank+aggro system.

And does any of those have such nice jumping puzzles? Or such good water combat?

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

  Vhaln

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12/21/12 1:06:44 PM#50
Originally posted by KingJiggly

I would like to know what MMO you think deserves these awards more? Not tryiing to be rude, I just want to see your preferences.

 

If it just won MMO of the year, that would be a good question.  but GAME of the year?  Really?

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  LuciferIAm

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12/21/12 5:53:30 PM#51
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by LuciferIAm

Find it pretty funny that despite being out roughly 6 months now people still take the time to come to this forum and tell us all how GW2 is bad. Bravo.

And coming to this forum and tell "us" that GW2 is good, is different how exactly? Keep in mind that this post was about GW 2 being good and since this is not a GW 2 site, naturally people will disagree.

Its a lot different...because frankly if you like the game of course you are going to discuss it. However, those that dislike it so many months after its even come out means they are actually taking the time to come to a forum for a game they dont like, to tell others they dont like it. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. If I dont like a game, I dont visit its forums when I'm not even playing it...During the first month of X being dissappointed about Y, understandable you may want to voice your frustrations, but MONTHS after? Lol.

  Failtrain

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12/21/12 9:05:51 PM#52
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Failtrain
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Alberel

It's not like GW2 had any real competition in terms of MMOs in 2012... giving it best game though... actually were there any really great PC games in 2012?

Winning awards when there was no real competition makes the award somewhat worthless...

Make sure that you point out which games are such weak competition that GW2 won by default.  Maybe you could tell us how bad a game has to be to make winning GOTY worthless?

He's only expressing his disappointment in the PC Games of this year, settle down maaaaan; the world is ending soon.

Your problem with my post is what exactly?

So hostile. On a lighter note we're all alive and GW2 is still an average game.

  eyelolled

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12/21/12 9:34:47 PM#53
Originally posted by Failtrain
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Failtrain
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Alberel

It's not like GW2 had any real competition in terms of MMOs in 2012... giving it best game though... actually were there any really great PC games in 2012?

Winning awards when there was no real competition makes the award somewhat worthless...

Make sure that you point out which games are such weak competition that GW2 won by default.  Maybe you could tell us how bad a game has to be to make winning GOTY worthless?

He's only expressing his disappointment in the PC Games of this year, settle down maaaaan; the world is ending soon.

Your problem with my post is what exactly?

So hostile. On a lighter note we're all alive and GW2 is still an average game.

So sensitive. Why don't you shake off the shivers and actually tell me what the problem with my post is?

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  StonedAntichrist

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12/24/12 5:06:04 PM#54
I really don't understand why so many bash Guild Wars 2, a lot of the people I've seen say something about it were saying nonsense like "gw2 ripped of wow" and whatnot. I mean, not really any valid responses. I feel not a lot of people have given GW2 a full chance before bashing on it. I personallly like what GW2 brings to the table, it doesn't really feel like any other MMO I've played. The questing gets boring but imo questing is boring for any MMO, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of you say GW2 brought nothing new into MMOs, but I doubt you've actually played enough of the game to even have a valid opinion on that. It actually added a lot more new things, some big, some small, but all together it fits perfectly into a nice game. And the fact that they blended all those elements into one game is pretty neat in itself.
  Wickedjelly

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12/24/12 7:08:45 PM#55

Well...grats to Anet I suppose.

I get mmo of the year. Can't say I agree with Game of the Year or Graphics of the year at all. Didn't deserve either of those.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  KingJiggly

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/11
Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

12/24/12 7:10:07 PM#56
Originally posted by LuciferIAm
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by LuciferIAm

Find it pretty funny that despite being out roughly 6 months now people still take the time to come to this forum and tell us all how GW2 is bad. Bravo.

And coming to this forum and tell "us" that GW2 is good, is different how exactly? Keep in mind that this post was about GW 2 being good and since this is not a GW 2 site, naturally people will disagree.

Its a lot different...because frankly if you like the game of course you are going to discuss it. However, those that dislike it so many months after its even come out means they are actually taking the time to come to a forum for a game they dont like, to tell others they dont like it. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. If I dont like a game, I dont visit its forums when I'm not even playing it...During the first month of X being dissappointed about Y, understandable you may want to voice your frustrations, but MONTHS after? Lol.

I think coming here and telling us how gw2 is abd in our own forums is kind of different. 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  Terranah

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/03/04
Posts: 3609

12/24/12 7:20:36 PM#57

It's a good game.  I'm enjoying it.  I can't help but think if they add this or that it could become better than good.  Expand on the crafting and the social aspects.  Put more stuff on the cash shop.  More clothes, more faces, more hair....more more more.  Things seem to be moving slowly and I can't help but wonder if the holiday content isn't slowing down there development cycle.

 

That said, the game runs on max with good framerates, extremely stable, and beautiful graphics.  I love the open questing, the lack of tagging, the exploration of a very large world.

 

I think it deserves the accolades for now. 

  Maephisto

Novice Member

Joined: 2/15/12
Posts: 653

12/24/12 8:04:46 PM#58

I really have to question IGN's ability to accurately award the GOTY title.  GW2....pfffttttt.....come on, really??

How could they choose GW2 over another, far superior MMO that released this year?  They chose to not award the juggernaut title "Pirates 101" with GOTY!!!

IGN, please get with the program.  I am embarrased for you.

  khamul787

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Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 184

1/15/13 11:07:45 PM#59
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by evilprey
Best PC Graphics: http://www.ign.com/wikis/best-of-2012/Best_PC_Graphics

That is just ridicilous and shows that this award is biased on whether you like the game or not. I played TERA and GW 2 back to back and TERA is heads and shoulders above GW 2 in graphics department. It's not even a contest.

Yeah, I've been playing TERA with one of my friends lately and the graphics are freaking insane. Especially later on in the game.

Yeah, no one who looks at these two games objectively can say GW 2 has better graphics. No freaking way.

Even in aesthetics department, TERA is amazing. It got some awesome looking mobs in the form of BAMs that GW 2 cannot compare to. I will make a blog entry and show all the awesome looking mobs TERA has, specially later in the game.

If you look at IGN's past awards in the category, it should indeed be renamed to aesthetics, which is far more subjective. I personally greatly prefer GW2's art style than Tera's. simply because it all feels very painterly.

  Lovely_Laly

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Joined: 11/02/10
Posts: 736

game is also real

1/15/13 11:17:39 PM#60


Originally posted by InFlamestwo

Originally posted by MikeJezZ I really wished that this game would have been worth GOTY....   I was so overhyped for it for years, same with D3. D3 failed so bad. GW2 was allright. I really liked the starting areas, but the further I got into the game, the areas became more and more dull and boring.   GW2 is a game you complete and put on the shell. Sadly.
Depends on what kind of player you are, you seem to be the kind of player that play through one story on one character and get 100% world completion then the game is over.

I still play Guild Wars 2, the content is almost endless.


grind...

try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises.
Worst surprises for me: Aion, GW2

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