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12/21/12 8:47:31 AM#41
Originally posted by botrytis I want you to delve a littler deeper, beyond the games and what it means to play them. Consider for a moment that the theory behind these products are human issues, and not solely related to gaming. I can understand how this can be a difficult thing to do. We play games for entertainment, and many people like to keep their enjoyment separate from their philosophy, when in fact the two collide on a very regular basis. Just on these forums alone, arguments between group oriented or solo play, what makes community and how to stimulate its growth, the business of selling hype or journalistic integrity, what it means to be immersed? These are underlying problems, questions, and theories that apply to nearly every other human interaction or activity when the gaming is stripped away.
So, no: we're not just talking about games. We're discussing philosophy and human nature, which is why you may take notice to certain individuals being less than civil from time to time. If everyone agreed that these forums existed only to speak of entertainment in a shallow, meaningless format, perhaps there wouldn't even be an MMORPG.com, a place that's thrived on the ability to foster debate. "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran) |
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12/21/12 8:57:30 AM#42
totally agree try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises. |
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12/21/12 9:03:14 AM#43
Well, I voted for The Walking Dead in all the polls I voted on, so it's not my fault. Join the League For Gamers. |
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12/21/12 9:12:54 AM#44
Originally posted by lizardbones I wouldn't mind an MMO getting a general purpose video game award if it had been a shit year for single player or multiplayer PC titles, but it wasn't. Personally, I feel like this is rewarding mediocrity, and if anything is going to result from that it's the continuation of the same behavior, right? "This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran) |
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Yamota
Elite Member
Joined: 10/05/03
There's a beast within every man that stirs when you put a sword in his hand |
12/21/12 9:19:53 AM#45
Originally posted by botrytis I dont think GW 2 is a particulary good MMO and I dont think it deserves any rewards. How is that uncivil or bad to say that? |
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12/21/12 9:55:40 AM#46
Not to put to fine a point on it, but your individual opinion doesn't matter. Mine doesn't either for that matter. What you consider mediocrity, many other people consider innovative or at the very least, fun. I'm not going to go into why, because really, I have no idea. I voted for The Walking Dead in every category it appeared in. There will be more of the same. Of course there will. It happens in every genre of video games. More of the same with slight variations. There won't be nothing but the same though. As more MMORPG are made, developers will have to differentiate themselves more from the other games if they want their game to sell. So overall, if GW2 was simply the least bad game, or the best of the best or was picked for political reasons, the end result will be more MMORPG getting made, resulting in more varieties of MMORPG getting made. I could be wrong...it could be so expensive and take so long to produce MMORPG that the genre never really gets past what it is now. This is just my opinion, and as I said, it doesn't really matter outside of my head. Join the League For Gamers. |
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KingJiggly
Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/11
Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome. |
12/21/12 10:47:47 AM#47
Originally posted by Yamota I understand. However, I find gw2 innovative in that it placed all these features together for a rather low price, and in a lot of cases expanded (or atleast attempted to) on these ideas. We simply differ in opinions, and I can respect that. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation |
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12/21/12 12:06:20 PM#48
GW2 is a great game, some will like it and some wont. I've never liked The Elder Scrolls series that much but I don't spend my time trying to convince others it is a bad game or bashing it. The fact many spend their time reliougiously stalking GW2 only speak volume of the game stature and size - no one spend their time bashing small games. Also, I'm sorry to say but I'vent seen many PC GOTY or overall GOTY awards for SWTOR. Some of the contenders GW2 go against include: XCOM: Enemy UnknownMass Effect 3DishonoredDragon's DogmaThe Last StoryTorchlight IIXenoblade ChroniclesCODBLOPS 2 ACIII
Yeah no good games at all, that has to be the reason GW2 is highly rated.
Currently playing: GW2 |
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12/21/12 12:18:09 PM#49
Originally posted by Yamota But SWTOR world and combat are: a static place and old combat systems. But TERA PvE is worse, the world is dead as well and while the graphics engine is more powerful the art of GW2 is superior. Darkfall is so good it has exactly 0 people on XFIRE playing it. Wait DF was shutdown and he is now in a beta for the reboot. DAoC is also worse in everything else. Rift world still feels dead and it still uses the "require target" to fire. PS2 also has no PvE. GW2 is just a better experience all around with a better combat than the majority of the games and it has one world that feels alive with NPCs moving around doing their business. Again people answer to GW2 is to state a list of games and pick the best aspect of each and say in that aspect and that aspect only it tops GW2. The problem is GW2 tops all those other games on the rest. Full package that can and will expand/improve vs a detail. Plus the uniqueness among those MMORPGs of not having a tank+aggro system. And does any of those have such nice jumping puzzles? Or such good water combat? Currently playing: GW2 |
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12/21/12 1:06:44 PM#50
Originally posted by KingJiggly
If it just won MMO of the year, that would be a good question. but GAME of the year? Really?
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world. |
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12/21/12 5:53:30 PM#51
Originally posted by Yamota Its a lot different...because frankly if you like the game of course you are going to discuss it. However, those that dislike it so many months after its even come out means they are actually taking the time to come to a forum for a game they dont like, to tell others they dont like it. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. If I dont like a game, I dont visit its forums when I'm not even playing it...During the first month of X being dissappointed about Y, understandable you may want to voice your frustrations, but MONTHS after? Lol. |
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12/21/12 9:05:51 PM#52
Originally posted by eyelolled So hostile. On a lighter note we're all alive and GW2 is still an average game. |
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12/21/12 9:34:47 PM#53
Originally posted by Failtrain So sensitive. Why don't you shake off the shivers and actually tell me what the problem with my post is? All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick. |
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12/24/12 5:06:04 PM#54
I really don't understand why so many bash Guild Wars 2, a lot of the people I've seen say something about it were saying nonsense like "gw2 ripped of wow" and whatnot. I mean, not really any valid responses. I feel not a lot of people have given GW2 a full chance before bashing on it. I personallly like what GW2 brings to the table, it doesn't really feel like any other MMO I've played. The questing gets boring but imo questing is boring for any MMO, but that's just my personal opinion. A lot of you say GW2 brought nothing new into MMOs, but I doubt you've actually played enough of the game to even have a valid opinion on that. It actually added a lot more new things, some big, some small, but all together it fits perfectly into a nice game. And the fact that they blended all those elements into one game is pretty neat in itself.
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12/24/12 7:08:45 PM#55
Well...grats to Anet I suppose. I get mmo of the year. Can't say I agree with Game of the Year or Graphics of the year at all. Didn't deserve either of those. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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KingJiggly
Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/11
Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome. |
12/24/12 7:10:07 PM#56
Originally posted by LuciferIAm I think coming here and telling us how gw2 is abd in our own forums is kind of different. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation |
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12/24/12 7:20:36 PM#57
It's a good game. I'm enjoying it. I can't help but think if they add this or that it could become better than good. Expand on the crafting and the social aspects. Put more stuff on the cash shop. More clothes, more faces, more hair....more more more. Things seem to be moving slowly and I can't help but wonder if the holiday content isn't slowing down there development cycle.
That said, the game runs on max with good framerates, extremely stable, and beautiful graphics. I love the open questing, the lack of tagging, the exploration of a very large world.
I think it deserves the accolades for now. |
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12/24/12 8:04:46 PM#58
I really have to question IGN's ability to accurately award the GOTY title. GW2....pfffttttt.....come on, really?? How could they choose GW2 over another, far superior MMO that released this year? They chose to not award the juggernaut title "Pirates 101" with GOTY!!! IGN, please get with the program. I am embarrased for you. |
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1/15/13 11:07:45 PM#59
Originally posted by Yamota If you look at IGN's past awards in the category, it should indeed be renamed to aesthetics, which is far more subjective. I personally greatly prefer GW2's art style than Tera's. simply because it all feels very painterly. |
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1/15/13 11:17:39 PM#60
grind... try before buy, even if it's a game to avoid bad surprises. |
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