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General Discussion  » Beta is under NDA, stop talking about beta.

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  Raserei

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OP  12/19/12 3:43:43 PM#1
NDA, nuff said.
  Zyzra

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12/19/12 3:45:37 PM#2

I am not in beta, and have not signed an NDA.

That said, why would a re-released game that AV thought was almost ready for actual launch, with a beta anyone can get into for a fee, have an NDA at all?

  MIKEBOY813

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12/19/12 3:47:26 PM#3
and you think making this topic gonna stop people from talking about the beta?? useless topic nuff said
  possessed1

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12/19/12 3:52:28 PM#4
People will talk regardless; frankly, I'd like all the information about a product I can get before paying for it. And it sounds to me, with the last minute 'beta' change to DF:UW  that they narrowly avoided the 'War Z' predicament and/or a repeat of DFs original launch
  Mardukk

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12/19/12 3:52:44 PM#5
What's with this nuff said stuff? Ah our youth and their catch phrases. I'm pretty sure you can say if you like it or not, which is what I've seen around here.
  cura

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12/19/12 3:53:56 PM#6
You forgot to add "or else..."
  Zyzra

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12/19/12 3:54:43 PM#7
Originally posted by Mardukk
What's with this nuff said stuff? Ah our youth and their catch phrases. I'm pretty sure you can say if you like it or not, which is what I've seen around here.

Brah, dun make me hashtag ur yolo n take ur swag

  Mardukk

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12/19/12 3:57:23 PM#8
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Mardukk
What's with this nuff said stuff? Ah our youth and their catch phrases. I'm pretty sure you can say if you like it or not, which is what I've seen around here.

Brah, dun make me hashtag ur yolo n take ur swag

 

You forgot to add nuff said! at the end.
  Atlan99

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12/19/12 3:58:34 PM#9
Originally posted by Zyzra

I am not in beta, and have not signed an NDA.

That said, why would a re-released game that AV thought was almost ready for actual launch, with a beta anyone can get into for a fee, have an NDA at all?

It has an NDA so beta testers can't reveal how bad the state of the game currently is. The hope is that people will continue to pay for the opportunity to play LauncherFall.

  Zyzra

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12/19/12 3:59:38 PM#10
Originally posted by Mardukk
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Mardukk
What's with this nuff said stuff? Ah our youth and their catch phrases. I'm pretty sure you can say if you like it or not, which is what I've seen around here.

Brah, dun make me hashtag ur yolo n take ur swag

 

You forgot to add nuff said! at the end.

#Raserei #nuffsaid

  Entropy14

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12/19/12 4:01:18 PM#11

Why exactly do you care, who gives a flying F**k what people say , NDA is just a dumb rule, freedom of speech, I had to pay to get into beta so since I paid my money I should be free to say what I want. 

 

 

  Zyzra

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12/19/12 4:05:14 PM#12
Originally posted by Entropy14

Why exactly do you care, who gives a flying F**k what people say , NDA is just a dumb rule, freedom of speech, I had to pay to get into beta so since I paid my money I should be free to say what I want. 

 

Exactly!  Like how I paid for this gun I can shoot who I want!  Right Entropy?

  Noctie

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12/19/12 4:07:02 PM#13

Afraid people that didnt pay for the game yet know how broken the game is ?

 

I hope more people talk about it.

  aRtFuLThinG

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12/19/12 4:26:16 PM#14
Originally posted by Mardukk
What's with this nuff said stuff? Ah our youth and their catch phrases. I'm pretty sure you can say if you like it or not, which is what I've seen around here.

Nuff Said

 

And may God rest his soul.

  Celusios

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12/19/12 4:57:44 PM#15
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Entropy14

Why exactly do you care, who gives a flying F**k what people say , NDA is just a dumb rule, freedom of speech, I had to pay to get into beta so since I paid my money I should be free to say what I want. 

 

Exactly!  Like how I paid for this gun I can shoot who I want!  Right Entropy?

Comparing a harmless NDA to a gun is totally a realistic comparsion. inb4 "BREAKING A LAW IS BREAKING A LAW!"

  BuniontToes

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12/19/12 4:59:44 PM#16

There is an NDA to allow the game company to fix thigns before the game is  launched.  Hence what the beta is intended to do.

 

Have bugs been found? yes

Have bugs been fixed? yes

Have all bugs been fixed? No

 

Both of these statements are public knowledge.

 

/thread

  Azdul

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12/19/12 5:24:19 PM#17
Originally posted by Noctie

Afraid people that didnt pay for the game yet know how broken the game is ?

I hope more people talk about it.

NDA will be dropped in the middle of beta. 

IMO they don't really plan to get rich by selling "cat in the bag" to unsuspecting new players. I believe that during the beta they'll refund the purchase to anyone that asks for it.

The open beta is a chance for competitive clans to learn the game, and start on equal footing, which wasn't the case in DF1. And for AV to fix exploits before the launch, and get some free testers. 

Anyway, if you haven't played DF, and don't plan to play DF for at least next year, there is really no reason to pay 30$ to help to test the game.

  Zyzra

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12/19/12 7:25:21 PM#18
Originally posted by Celusios
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Entropy14

Why exactly do you care, who gives a flying F**k what people say , NDA is just a dumb rule, freedom of speech, I had to pay to get into beta so since I paid my money I should be free to say what I want. 

 

Exactly!  Like how I paid for this gun I can shoot who I want!  Right Entropy?

Comparing a harmless NDA to a gun is totally a realistic comparsion. inb4 "BREAKING A LAW IS BREAKING A LAW!"

Well my point was that just because you pay money, doesn't mean you have a license to do whatever the F you want.

By agreeing to the NDA you signify you are going to abide by such rules in the Non-Disclosure AGREEment.

Sometimes a comparison that takes something similar to the extreme helps to show how something much more minor is still wrong.

  radagast777

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12/19/12 7:27:27 PM#19
so many angry haters, what are they mad about?
  Zyzra

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12/19/12 7:38:14 PM#20
Originally posted by Celusios
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Entropy14

Why exactly do you care, who gives a flying F**k what people say , NDA is just a dumb rule, freedom of speech, I had to pay to get into beta so since I paid my money I should be free to say what I want. 

 

Exactly!  Like how I paid for this gun I can shoot who I want!  Right Entropy?

Comparing a harmless NDA to a gun is totally a realistic comparsion. inb4 "BREAKING A LAW IS BREAKING A LAW!"

Here's a comparison for ya then.

Consumer agrees to pay 30 dollars to receive a game called "Darkfall: Unholy Wars"

Aventurine agrees to provide game "Darkfall: Unholy Wars" to the consumer for the 30 paid dollars.

Then Aventurine says "even though we agreed, we have your money and rules are dumb I shoudl be free to do whatever I want so we're not giving you your game even though we agreed to"

Consumer says "But we had an agreement!"

Entropy14 says "who gives a flying F**k"

 

How do you think people would feel if Aventurine broke their agreement to release the game despite being paid?

Now relate that to the NDA.

There you go.

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