Originally posted by Rayshe
I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

 What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

Originally posted by Rayshe

Originally posted by Eir_S

I don't know why you find the Biggest Disappointment thing so confusing.  It's obviously one crybaby who wanted to get his way.. but no one's going to remember his tiny little stab at a colossus.

The same can be said for anything Anti TSW or Tera, your defence is flawed and pure speculation.

Oh well, it's still not going to be remembered when the cards are down.  He's still a crybaby and there was jack shit to suggest it was a disappointment.

"Where's my guesting?"  Yeah sounds like a runner up for biggest disappointment of the year to me.

Originally posted by ezpz77
GW2 deserves best MMO this year. It's only competition was with TSW which was going to be a niche game from day one, and an expansion for a game nearly a decade old. It's sort of like a collegiate athlete beating a fath Goth kid and a 50 year old dad at a game of basketball. 

You forgot TERA which had ads everywhere before it came out (I even had a leaflet in a DVD movie I purchased before it came out).

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by ezpz77
GW2 deserves best MMO this year. It's only competition was with TSW which was going to be a niche game from day one, and an expansion for a game nearly a decade old. It's sort of like a collegiate athlete beating a fath Goth kid and a 50 year old dad at a game of basketball. 

You forgot TERA which had ads everywhere before it came out (I even had a leaflet in a DVD movie I purchased before it came out).

Tera wasn't ever in the running for MMO of the year. 

GW2 was fun for me for a while, but ANET doesn't know how to fix the major problems (culling anyone?) and they are about as good at communication as EA. In terms of MMOs though, it's still easily better than most. That being said, the competition this year wasn't exactly mindblowingly great either.

Originally posted by Rayshe
I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

I don't really think it's more innovative even though it is very fresh and unique, but it sure is just as fun but in a different way.  I think GW2 is fresh and unique in how it plays compared to most every other fantasy game out there.  TSW plays totally different than GW2 and I don't compare the innovations they each offer.

Funcom could have really had the larger fan support early on had they just started with B2P.  They really threw that one away.  It's a pity because the game  deserved a little better than that.

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Rayshe
I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

 What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

Thats nice, doesn't change the fact for me GW2 was just the weakest themepark MMo I played in some time. Sorry I really can't help it, my tinted goggles didn't work to detract me from the iffy combat and the fact the way they did the 'same old same old' in a way that just got old quick. 

Oh and... SWTOR, game of the year after being out a few days. Remember that? Yeah, I don't bother really taking anything like these into much consideration, even if it was a game I really enjoyed greatly.

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)

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I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!

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Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)

 

And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)

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I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!

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Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)

 

And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

What really confuses me is why anyone needs a website,magazine or other player to validate their enjoyment or dislike of a game. All that should matter to you is your opinion of the game. If you like it play it, if not move on and find something you do enjoy.

P.S. I do enjoy GW2..... game of the year though, not to me.

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Originally posted by Eir_S

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang  

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)

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I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!

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Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  

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And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

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Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

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I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

Better? ;)

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Eir_S

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang  

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)

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I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!

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Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  

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And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

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Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

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I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

 

Better? ;)

Phew.. yes, much.  Thanks, now I can continue to stew angrily about nothing. lol

Originally posted by Rayshe

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Rayshe
I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

 What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

 I've heard enough "same old same old" regarding parts of TSW (trinity, static world and quests, etc) that it's never actually crossed my radar, but if I ever do tire of GW2 I may give it a look. No promises... I'm not remotely close to tiring of GW2.

I'll keep an open mind, just don't tell anyone.

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Eir_S

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang  

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Congrats to Anet! Well done, sirs :)

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I darn your friendly supportive non-combative approach.  How are we supposed to forum pvp if you're all nice and friendly!

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Hey the game may not appeal to me but im a gamer and i know a quality product when i see one :)  

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And you're still being nice Foo.  Dammit! *grumbles back off to work*

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Yeah what's up with that?  Amidst all the heat this thread is generating, his posts were like an ice cube down my shirt!

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I cannot BELIEVE a combat centric, rng cash shop, grindfest made goty omgwtf!!!! There will be no living with those awful fanboys now!

 

Better? ;)

 Eir's apparently easier to satisfy than I am... you didn't mention "WoW-clone" however so I can't give this high ratings.

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Rayshe

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Rayshe
I do agree that GW2 Deserves GOTY it had a larger fanbase going into the game and thus had a larger population when the game started. It had the strength it needed. TSW Deserves Innovative title of the year, we are undoubtable more innovative than GW2 however GW2 did have the larger fanbase.

 What exactly did they innovate?  (To be honest, I never played.)

Your class is something completely created by you using a pool of abilites, this makes you open to fight however you feel like fighting. Dungeons are more than just DPS checks, Endgame content requires thought and strategy people who claim you only need 10.4 gear and can burn anything fail to mention that you can only get that 10.4 gear via running these Nightmare dungeons.

Clothing has no aspect of armor or stats meaning that you can wear whatever you want without restriction.

When questing instead of just getting ahandful of quests doing them and going back you are to grab them one at a time, each quest updates on its own and has usually around 5 or 8 updated missions within it.

Quests are handed in, in the field so you dont have to run back your the Quest giver unless you are actually retrieveing something.

Investigation missions require the use of Outside sources to complete which is attainable via the ingame web browser they give you.

The game is focus around Build over gear until you hit the end game areas.

 I've heard enough "same old same old" regarding parts of TSW (trinity, static world and quests, etc) that it's never actually crossed my radar, but if I ever do tire of GW2 I may give it a look. No promises... I'm not remotely close to tiring of GW2.

I'll keep an open mind, just don't tell anyone.

Awesome i wish we had more people like you. Oh and i forgot one. Reticle targeting, Allows you to target something without clicking on it. Gives it a more actionny feel  but is more DPS focused.

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Torgrim

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by evilastro

Just when you thought it was safe to take off the tin foil hats, another site has claimed that GW2 is the best MMO of the year.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/massivelys-best-of-2012-awards/

Themepark hate club unite!  Tell everyone how they are wrong to enjoy this game!

They can enjoy the game as much as they like but GW 2, and ThemeParks in general, are like McDonalds. Garbage and not a proper food (mmo).

I'm loving the angst these awards are causing.  Remember a week or so ago when you and yours panning the Time award and said that it didn't matter because it wasn't a real gaming site.  Now that a real gaming site has presented the award it all comes down to "nuh uh - neener neener".

It's a damn awesome game whether you like it or not.

I am sure it is an awesome game (for some) but it is a crappy MMORPG. And massively is wrong saying that it is.

 

Can you please tell us how a proper MMORPG should be in your opinion?

One based on virtual, persistant world. No instances, no quest hubs and level bracketted zones. A world which is like a real world, i.e. not constructed but rather evolved organically.

Does such fantasy MMO exist?