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  SBFord

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Joined: 6/28/10
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OP  12/19/12 7:02:34 AM#1

UPDATE 2: This is now posted on Steam's site for those seeking a refund:

Those who purchased the title via Steam and are unhappy with what they received may seek a refund by creating a ticket at our support site here: https://support.steampowered.com/newticket.php

UPDATE: According to Kotaku, The War Z has been removed from Steam although a listing for the game remains.

The War Z is under heavy fire from consumers on Valve's Steam gaming platform. According to a report on Develop-Online, players are alleging that the game has been released missing key features advertised on the Steam page and that it is in more of an 'alpha stage'. In response, Executive Producer Sergey Titov has taken to the Steam forums and altered the game's description on Steam.

“We've taken steps to correct this and format information presented on our Steam Store page in a way so it provides more clear information about game features that are present in the Foundation Release and what to expect in the coming weeks,” said Titov.

“We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread information about game features.”

Check out the Steam forums for more.

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  pookir

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Joined: 7/15/12
Posts: 63

12/19/12 7:24:55 AM#2
alpha for 15$? there will be war!
  zanfire

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Joined: 11/19/06
Posts: 784

12/19/12 7:26:09 AM#3
SHOCK...GASP! after tons of people here and on other sites sat there and told people these guys were scammers...they pull some crap like this....not a surprise in the slightist.
  lizardbones

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I think with my heart and move with my head.-Kongos

12/19/12 7:28:20 AM#4

Given how simple Funcom's statements were about TSW, it really makes the doublespeak that other companies use really stand out.


“We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread information about game features.”


Nobody misread anything. They delivered misleading information. It's not even an apology. They're saying the problem is with all the people who read the information posted on the game and actually believed it*. Jerks.

** edit **
I think this is a general problem with companies not being able to admit they did something wrong. It's really starting to get on my nerves.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  erictlewis

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 3058

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

12/19/12 7:30:23 AM#5
Lots of angry folks in that steam forum, and all I can say is it was shady business practices at best. 
  Claes

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Joined: 5/16/06
Posts: 278

12/19/12 7:31:49 AM#6

“We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread information about game features.”

Really? That's what happened? It wasn't you who misled with false information?

  TheBigDRC

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/17/12
Posts: 161

I popped too many blood vessels to give a damn anymore.

12/19/12 7:32:10 AM#7

Misread? Hard to misread it when the details are pretty clear on the damn list, that's not the players' fault.

. . . Misread. . . geez.

You know what's fun about chaos? I do, but I won't tell.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/19/12 7:33:32 AM#8
Lol at misread

It said 400km2 maps they are 50km2

It said 100 players per server there are 50

Perhaps the numbers are in hexadecimal and the customers misread them?
  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/19/12 7:34:35 AM#9
Hope valve sue the hell out of then
  Kaerigan

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Joined: 11/18/06
Posts: 713

12/19/12 7:37:18 AM#10
"Misread it"? What planet are these people from?

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  AvatarBlade

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/11/06
Posts: 772

12/19/12 7:38:51 AM#11
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Hope valve sue the hell out of then

Actually, this also goes to show how little research valve does in regards to games they put on their service. This is partly valve's fault too, as far as I'm concerned. You should test these things, before letting them go up on your shop.

  Avengorik

Novice Member

Joined: 11/01/09
Posts: 15

12/19/12 7:39:33 AM#12

Sergey is a pure liar.

 

Since october 15th hes been lying...

 

-Wasnt suppose to be a inventory wipe, yet here was one because of the massive items dupe and exploits. Ok many claims a wipe is normal in alpha and beta YES but it was Sergey who promsied first that there wouldnt be any.

-Game wasnt suppose to be pay to win its on the official game info YET now you can buy , 100 bullets c mags, which are 3 times the avarage ammos on normal magazine, you can bu yhealing items, tactical combat knife which is a great melee weapon, you can be drink/food, you can buy body armor, low grad eones yes but still an advantage over those without, you can also buy many kind of weapons attachment to help with aiming etc... So if thats not pay to win I really dont know what it is.

-The game main info clearly say that there wouldnt be ANY addional fees for the game other then for estetic items YET, they added fees for more clans slots and now they added a 4 hours revive once you die but you can buy a quick revive.

-Also he walwyas defend himself about the FALSE screeshots being showed since october 15th on the game website clearly showing zombie hordes, cars and such YET none of those are in game. HE CLAIMS, that those were not intended to be actual screenshots but scren art! YET  NEVER did the website had a note to explain any costumer that those feature were NOT in game yet but were part of a VISION.

-You all know that he lied about number of players on the server, the number of maps, the size of maps etc...and NOW he claims that it was the PEOPLE who didnt understand him. Im sorry but if I was about to add my game info on STEAM id much sure that those infos are CORRECT.  So once again he simply tried to boost the game`s sales.

I cannot sadly remember all his lies, ive been playing video game sfor 30 years and bought so many that ive lost the count but NEVER I repeat NEVER I felt so lied to by a gaming company.

YES the game isnt bad it could be a great game in the hands of a decent company, but right now its being lead by a guy who clearly wont hesitate to use any way he can find to lie and get as much money as he can from those who trust him.

 

BUT Im greatefull to all those including known websites who stood up to ask sergey lots of question and revealing what type of liar he is. I just hope that NEVER again wil lanother game company act this way to get our hard gained money.

 

I do wish STEAM will take the product away as a warning to all those that would attempt to use unethic ways to make money.

 

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5361

12/19/12 7:40:48 AM#13

WarZ is a cash grab made on the coattails of DayZs success. The game was hastily rushed into a buggy mess that it is today for the sole purpose of on cashing in on the latest "zombie survival" craze.

avoid, that is all I can say, 

ScamZ - yep

  marz.at.play

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/08/08
Posts: 913

nanu nanu

12/19/12 7:48:36 AM#14
Will no longer buy. Was waiting for more news and this sealed it for me. 

  drtack1

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/20/10
Posts: 240

12/19/12 7:49:31 AM#15

Yea...........I can't beleive they advertised the game as a finished product on Steam. It is not even remotely finished........you cant even spend your exp points on anything yet because the skill feature has not been implemented yet. Isnt that a core foundation  in every mmo?

They should be catching hell and they should be removed from Stream. I just cant stop thinking that once they see their sales peak and then drop off they will shut down the game. Such a sad way to treat the gaming community. 

  Avengorik

Novice Member

Joined: 11/01/09
Posts: 15

12/19/12 7:54:31 AM#16

My english isnt good enough to fully and correctly explain the whole situation, but its not about paying 50$ like I did or 15$ Its how this company got it.

 

if you want money from me dont lie to me be honest and sadly this is the HUGE problem with this company.

 

And its a shame because the ideas for the game are GREAT.

 

Lets hope that Another company will make a decent zombie MMORPG there is a HUGE audiance for it.

  RealPvPisFPS

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Joined: 3/04/12
Posts: 49

12/19/12 7:57:41 AM#17
I wonder if Steam has or is going to refund anyone. If a mass refund happens that would send the message loud and clear since that's all that companies seem to understand.
  User Deleted
12/19/12 8:02:35 AM#18
Originally posted by lizardbones

Given how simple Funcom's statements were about TSW, it really makes the doublespeak that other companies use really stand out.
 


“We also want to extend our apologies to all players who misread information about game features.”


Nobody misread anything. They delivered misleading information. It's not even an apology. They're saying the problem is with all the people who read the information posted on the game and actually believed it*. Jerks.

** edit **
I think this is a general problem with companies not being able to admit they did something wrong. It's really starting to get on my nerves.

 

Lawyers generally don't advise ANY company to admit wrongdoing.  I blame the whole "misread" on the lawyers.  It's obvious they misrepresented what came with the steam purchase.  

Every company carries two buckets - one filled with water and the other gasoline.  When a fire starts, they pick which one to throw and man Day Z threw the bucket of gas right on it.

  Requiamer

Novice Member

Joined: 5/20/05
Posts: 2054

12/19/12 8:03:09 AM#19
Originally posted by DMKano

WarZ is a cash grab made on the coattails of DayZs success.

ScamZ - yep

Not even talking about all the poeple buying this game thinking it is Day Z because the names are so close...

  shinkan

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Joined: 7/05/07
Posts: 223

12/19/12 8:12:55 AM#20

I wouldnt give any money to that crook Sergey Titov if it was the only game out there. Even Comical Ali has more credibility than this guy.

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