I not played POTBS in years, but found this little jewl in my inbox a few mintues ago

I got one of those two. Interesting to see if Flying Labs will alter the game. Hopefully so. Things I didn't like about the game:

1. If you are ganked while in the red zone, your friend's cannot join the battle/help you out.
2. The auction house to buy/sell goods was only usable if you were in the port; you could not see buy/sell orders in other ports (like you can in Eve). Hated this.

Wonder if Flying Labs will go back to how it was in beta; when players loved the game. They completely changed the game to reach a broader audience. Brilliant move there. For example, the implementation of the arcade-style world map instead of keeping players in the first peson perspective (which you now see only during combat).

Originally posted by Arclan

I got one of those two. Interesting to see if Flying Labs will alter the game. Hopefully so. Things I didn't like about the game:

1. If you are ganked while in the red zone, your friend's cannot join the battle/help you out.
2. The auction house to buy/sell goods was only usable if you were in the port; you could not see buy/sell orders in other ports (like you can in Eve). Hated this.

Wonder if Flying Labs will go back to how it was in beta; when players loved the game. They completely changed the game to reach a broader audience. Brilliant move there. For example, the implementation of the arcade-style world map instead of keeping players in the first peson perspective (which you now see only during combat).

Doubtful, SoE was only the publisher,  Flying Labs was in charge of the development.  Wouldmt expect much t change development wise.  Pricing model wise is where you are more likley to see changes.

I have same issue with POTBS like I have with STO - ground combat. It is imo not good enough to supplement otherwise very good ship combat part of the game.

I heard ppl working on POTBS worked on STO too...

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Originally posted by Gdemami

I have same issue with POTBS like I have with STO - ground combat. It is imo not good enough to supplement otherwise very good ship combat part of the game.

I heard ppl working on POTBS worked on STO too...

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For some reason that makes me laugh. Haven't played STO (even though I love Star Trek), but I heard bad things about it (lockboxes, anyone?)

Regarding POBS, if I recall, the ground missions were never part of the original design and were rushed in near the end of development. Anyone remember?

Originally posted by Arclan

 

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Originally posted by Gdemami

I have same issue with POTBS like I have with STO - ground combat. It is imo not good enough to supplement otherwise very good ship combat part of the game.

 

I heard ppl working on POTBS worked on STO too...

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For some reason that makes me laugh. Haven't played STO (even though I love Star Trek), but I heard bad things about it (lockboxes, anyone?)

Regarding POBS, if I recall, the ground missions were never part of the original design and were rushed in near the end of development. Anyone remember?

For the most part this is correct.  Avcom was an afterthought.  While the original system actually wasn't that bad once you got to learn it (and it took a lot of getting your ass kicked by Ellesaria, Stokes or Blue Herring to learn!), it was waaaaay to dependent on gear, and there was really only one viable build per class.

Then FLS decided to revamp the avcom, and took a system that was flawed but had some good things, and made it worse.

As far as the devs, I'm skeptical about them.  These were mainly the ones who seriously botched F2P/Power and Prestige. 

Originally posted by Arclan

I got one of those two. Interesting to see if Flying Labs will alter the game. Hopefully so. Things I didn't like about the game:

1. If you are ganked while in the red zone, your friend's cannot join the battle/help you out.
2. The auction house to buy/sell goods was only usable if you were in the port; you could not see buy/sell orders in other ports (like you can in Eve). Hated this.

Wonder if Flying Labs will go back to how it was in beta; when players loved the game. They completely changed the game to reach a broader audience. Brilliant move there. For example, the implementation of the arcade-style world map instead of keeping players in the first peson perspective (which you now see only during combat).

No offense, but were you around during beta?  The thing you hate most is ganking.  During Beta, this game was a gankers paradise.  Now as one who did almost entirely 6 v 6's, I seldom got caught to be ganked (and even then, raa mc's in the hands of freetraders during launch were literally unkillable lol).

As fun as some of the early launch of the game was, there's no way the gank heavy mechanics could keep the game sustainable long term.  The mechanics of the OS all around were borked.  Best shipcom game period.  Way better than EVE's combat.  Also great econ.  But the OS and avcom mechanics were so borked (to say NOTHING of the flawed rvr port battle system).

Is a shame, as this game had a lot of great things going for it.

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Originally posted by iceman00

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Originally posted by Arclan I got one of those two. Interesting to see if Flying Labs will alter the game. Hopefully so. Things I didn't like about the game: 1. If you are ganked while in the red zone, your friend's cannot join the battle/help you out. 2. The auction house to buy/sell goods was only usable if you were in the port; you could not see buy/sell orders in other ports (like you can in Eve). Hated this. Wonder if Flying Labs will go back to how it was in beta; when players loved the game. They completely changed the game to reach a broader audience. Brilliant move there. For example, the implementation of the arcade-style world map instead of keeping players in the first peson perspective (which you now see only during combat).

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No offense, but were you around during beta?  The thing you hate most is ganking.  During Beta, this game was a gankers paradise.  Now as one who did almost entirely 6 v 6's, I seldom got caught to be ganked (and even then, raa mc's in the hands of freetraders during launch were literally unkillable lol).

 

As fun as some of the early launch of the game was, there's no way the gank heavy mechanics could keep the game sustainable long term.  The mechanics of the OS all around were borked.  Best shipcom game period.  Way better than EVE's combat.  Also great econ.  But the OS and avcom mechanics were so borked (to say NOTHING of the flawed rvr port battle system).

 

Is a shame, as this game had a lot of great things going for it.

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I didn't play in beta. But, I played first day of launch and read the forums a lot. The beta testers had much to say. Like how the game changed massively from beta to launch, not because of beta test feedback, but because of 'the suits.' I heard the beta version of the game was a much richer experience.

My question to you (if you ever return to this old thread) is, when did you sign up for beta? Start, mid, end? And how many hours did you spend playing it during the beta.

Originally posted by Arclan

 

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Originally posted by iceman00

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Originally posted by Arclan I got one of those two. Interesting to see if Flying Labs will alter the game. Hopefully so. Things I didn't like about the game: 1. If you are ganked while in the red zone, your friend's cannot join the battle/help you out. 2. The auction house to buy/sell goods was only usable if you were in the port; you could not see buy/sell orders in other ports (like you can in Eve). Hated this. Wonder if Flying Labs will go back to how it was in beta; when players loved the game. They completely changed the game to reach a broader audience. Brilliant move there. For example, the implementation of the arcade-style world map instead of keeping players in the first peson perspective (which you now see only during combat).

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No offense, but were you around during beta?  The thing you hate most is ganking.  During Beta, this game was a gankers paradise.  Now as one who did almost entirely 6 v 6's, I seldom got caught to be ganked (and even then, raa mc's in the hands of freetraders during launch were literally unkillable lol).

 

 

As fun as some of the early launch of the game was, there's no way the gank heavy mechanics could keep the game sustainable long term.  The mechanics of the OS all around were borked.  Best shipcom game period.  Way better than EVE's combat.  Also great econ.  But the OS and avcom mechanics were so borked (to say NOTHING of the flawed rvr port battle system).

 

Is a shame, as this game had a lot of great things going for it.

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Thanks. Couple things. Although I mentioned ganking first, my second point is by far the primary reason I stopped playing.

 

I didn't play in beta. But, I played first day of launch and read the forums a lot. The beta testers had much to say. Like how the game changed massively from beta to launch, not because of beta test feedback, but because of 'the suits.' I heard the beta version of the game was a much richer experience.

My question to you (if you ever return to this old thread) is, when did you sign up for beta? Start, mid, end? And how many hours did you spend playing it during the beta.

I was in beta from the get go, but rarely had time to play it.  I was a horrid beta tester for that game lol.  I did read the forums regularly, and I did test a bit more extensively near the end.  (I'd say somewhere round 70 hours, the majority of it mid to back end.)

In my view, the biggest changes didn't come from beta to launch, but within the first 6 months or so of the game after launch.  Pirates were made a LOT MORE POWERFUL, especially once people like Perci Haddoch perfected the TMTD stern charge.  Then FLS introduced the lolbuccaneer.

Another problem with the "far richer experience" viewpoint is people didn't figure out all the ways to bork the game yet.  The broken damage resistance mechanics were in from day one, but it took Renegade Legion stat monkeys to combine builds with gear to get northward of 80% damage resistance.

Beta had a far more carefree environment, as it was composed of a lot of the hardcores.  People didn't give a shit about pixels.  They also knew that after beta it wouldn't matter, so it allowed people to be a lot bolder in their experimentation.  You had RP'ers like Jack Simple taking out first rates with cutters, all the while roleplaying the experience for all to see.

Me, I wasn't really big with the hardcore crowd during beta, so I guess I got to see the more negative end of the experience.  Beta was fun.  But it wasn't the paradise a lot of people make it out to be.  It was "fun", because a lot of us didn't understand the game and how to really exploit it.   After launch I started playing a lot more, and helped make Blackbeard one of the more entertaining servers to play on.

The way I look at it, you had to have at least 100 hours in the 6 v 6 or port battle system before you could say you had a sound grasp of the pvp system.  Most people simply didn't rack 100 hours of pvp experience during Beta, so a lot of the stuff went undiscovered.

Okay, I've been trying now for about a week to log in, and find a "code".  I see nothing.  Not to mention Portalus doesn't seem set up to receive a code as far as I can tell.  The 31st is looming closer and I would really like to transfer my information, yet I don't see a way to get a "migration code". 

Its certainly not there at the log in screen.  And the link provided to enter the code once you have it, to the Portalus game site, doesn't have an entry field.  Its weird. 

What am I doing wrong here??? Anything?  Everything?  Im extremely confused.

I never liked the all-instanced combat of it. It was like an old-school JRPG; all that was missing was the "WOOOSH!" sound. I did enjoy the ship combat however. My guess is it would be too much of an overhaul to have a non-instanced combat system. The great carribbean/pirate MMO continues to elude us....

Originally posted by Corehaven

Okay, I've been trying now for about a week to log in, and find a "code".  I see nothing.  Not to mention Portalus doesn't seem set up to receive a code as far as I can tell.  The 31st is looming closer and I would really like to transfer my information, yet I don't see a way to get a "migration code". 

 

Its certainly not there at the log in screen.  And the link provided to enter the code once you have it, to the Portalus game site, doesn't have an entry field.  Its weird. 

 

What am I doing wrong here??? Anything?  Everything?  Im extremely confused.

 Wait. You won't be able to do anything until they send out the announcement E-mail.