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  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

12/18/12 11:37:51 AM#21
Originally posted by Redemp
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 

 

Its a B E T A    

 What's your point? Beta's at this point are previews of the game and marketing gimics to attract pre-orders. They are no longer the beta's of old where the testers actually tested the game. So if my mates and others view this rough "beta" start as a preview of things to come and demand a refund, what of it? You can scream " It's a beta " all you like but frankly that excuse doesn't fly anymore.

Your failure to understand the difference between a working beta and an open beta is your problem.

 

  Zyzra

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Joined: 6/18/07
Posts: 363

12/18/12 11:40:21 AM#22
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 

 

Its a B E T A    

 What's your point? Beta's at this point are previews of the game and marketing gimics to attract pre-orders. They are no longer the beta's of old where the testers actually tested the game. So if my mates and others view this rough "beta" start as a preview of things to come and demand a refund, what of it? You can scream " It's a beta " all you like but frankly that excuse doesn't fly anymore.

Your failure to understand the difference between a working beta and an open beta is your problem.

 

Actually I think the problem is Aventurine failing to make a working beta.

;)

  Hancakes

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

12/18/12 11:41:24 AM#23
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

  crysent

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/01/05
Posts: 844

12/18/12 11:43:41 AM#24
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

  Hancakes

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

12/18/12 11:49:47 AM#25
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

Yes because Facebook likes,twitter and Forum logins are representative of how many people are actively playing.

So how are people playing if teh counter never goes down? LOL I know for a FACT that it does as I've played.

  crysent

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/01/05
Posts: 844

12/18/12 11:51:12 AM#26
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

Yes because Facebook likes,twitter and Forum logins are representative of how many people are actively playing.

So how are people playing if teh counter never goes down? LOL I know for a FACT that it does as I've played.

Okay buddy, your probably right.  Nothing wrong with the que, nothing wrong with the login server, and nothing wrong with the game server.  This is all a big mis-understanding and just a result of all the people trying to login right now, all 20,000 people.  The que hasn't gone down once this morning, not once.  And what "people" are playing?  You? me? no.  point me in the direction of someone playing...

 

And yes, I think by looking at facebook + the forums + twitter I can get an accurate account of people looking for an update, and also get a picture that NO ONE is actually currently in game.  Yes, I know it was TEMPORARILY up this morning, about 8 hours ago, but that is it.

  PsychoPigeon

Novice Member

Joined: 8/15/07
Posts: 587

12/18/12 12:02:42 PM#27
Anyone else getting logged out when clicking 'create character'?
  crysent

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/01/05
Posts: 844

12/18/12 12:04:33 PM#28
Originally posted by PsychoPigeon
Anyone else getting logged out when clicking 'create character'?

Yes.

  Hancakes

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

12/18/12 12:04:57 PM#29
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent

 

And yes, I think by looking at facebook + the forums + twitter I can get an accurate account of people looking for an update, and also get a picture that NO ONE is actually currently in game.  Yes, I know it was TEMPORARILY up this morning, about 8 hours ago, but that is it.

LOL... DF1 only had 3800 likes on FB, but sold over 150000 copies.

 

So much for that theory.

  Kuviski

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/13/12
Posts: 176

12/18/12 12:05:00 PM#30
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

Yes because Facebook likes,twitter and Forum logins are representative of how many people are actively playing.

So how are people playing if teh counter never goes down? LOL I know for a FACT that it does as I've played.

Okay buddy, your probably right.  Nothing wrong with the que, nothing wrong with the login server, and nothing wrong with the game server.  This is all a big mis-understanding and just a result of all the people trying to login right now, all 20,000 people.  The que hasn't gone down once this morning, not once.  And what "people" are playing?  You? me? no.  point me in the direction of someone playing...

 

And yes, I think by looking at facebook + the forums + twitter I can get an accurate account of people looking for an update, and also get a picture that NO ONE is actually currently in game.  Yes, I know it was TEMPORARILY up this morning, about 8 hours ago, but that is it.

But the queue has gone up and down during the day. I've been able to log in and out a few times.

The problem is that once you crash, you can't log in on the crashed character, but you can still "access" the queue.

 

 

Also, just saying, a lot of us people don't even use Facebook or Twitter. Like myself. So I doubt those numbers would be too accurate.

  Hancakes

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

12/18/12 12:07:00 PM#31
Originally posted by Kuviski
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

Yes because Facebook likes,twitter and Forum logins are representative of how many people are actively playing.

So how are people playing if teh counter never goes down? LOL I know for a FACT that it does as I've played.

Okay buddy, your probably right.  Nothing wrong with the que, nothing wrong with the login server, and nothing wrong with the game server.  This is all a big mis-understanding and just a result of all the people trying to login right now, all 20,000 people.  The que hasn't gone down once this morning, not once.  And what "people" are playing?  You? me? no.  point me in the direction of someone playing...

 

And yes, I think by looking at facebook + the forums + twitter I can get an accurate account of people looking for an update, and also get a picture that NO ONE is actually currently in game.  Yes, I know it was TEMPORARILY up this morning, about 8 hours ago, but that is it.

But the queue has gone up and down during the day. I've been able to log in and out a few times.

The problem is that once you crash, you can't log in on the crashed character, but you can still "access" the queue.

Thus the game being in BETA

  crysent

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Joined: 6/01/05
Posts: 844

12/18/12 12:08:21 PM#32
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Kuviski
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by crysent
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Redemp
 Alot of people are already demanding their money back, several of my mates who I talked into trying this game are as well. Yes ... its painfully obvious why there is a NDA.

Money back for what?  The game you PURCHASED isn't due out until January.

 

 Maybe it is only a beta, but, considering they were 'planning' a solid release a couple weeks ago I think a lot of people are a bit surprised at the state of things in the 'beta'...

"Most" people no nothing of the state of the beta due to the login issues.

Aren't terrible login issues a problem with the beta?

Not really,  the servers are well beyond their capacity.  18000+ in line for a server that only supports 10000 players.

This is complete crap, c'mon - 18000 people in que?  BS.  The que server is not working, their facebook page likes + number of people on their forum and twitter don't even equal half of 18000.  I find it very, very hard to believe there are 18k people in que.  I know what the server says, what the server says is NOT correct.  Clearly something is wrong with the que number, I believe its counting everyone who has attempted to access the server, because the number NEVER goes down...just up and up and up.

Yes because Facebook likes,twitter and Forum logins are representative of how many people are actively playing.

So how are people playing if teh counter never goes down? LOL I know for a FACT that it does as I've played.

Okay buddy, your probably right.  Nothing wrong with the que, nothing wrong with the login server, and nothing wrong with the game server.  This is all a big mis-understanding and just a result of all the people trying to login right now, all 20,000 people.  The que hasn't gone down once this morning, not once.  And what "people" are playing?  You? me? no.  point me in the direction of someone playing...

 

And yes, I think by looking at facebook + the forums + twitter I can get an accurate account of people looking for an update, and also get a picture that NO ONE is actually currently in game.  Yes, I know it was TEMPORARILY up this morning, about 8 hours ago, but that is it.

But the queue has gone up and down during the day. I've been able to log in and out a few times.

The problem is that once you crash, you can't log in on the crashed character, but you can still "access" the queue.

Thus the game being in BETA

Yes...we get it's in beta, you've repeated that now multiple times, nobody debates that.

  Zyzra

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Posts: 363

12/18/12 12:20:30 PM#33
Originally posted by Hancakes

Thus the game being in BETA

The problem is that when the game releases, it will still be in BETA.

Beta is at best a temporary excuse.

Choice quotes from the Darkfall website itself:

"a bit more time is needed. For the record, what’s left shouldn’t take more than a few days longer."

"we have done a lot of internal testing for the game, the platform has been thoroughly field tested, and the game has also been tested by external partners"

 

So don't worry guys, Aventurine fully expects these minor issues to only take a few days to iron out!

"It's just beta"

"It's just launch bugs"

"It's just a bug from patching"

"It's probably your crappy computer"

 

Denial, a sad state.

  TheJoda

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12/18/12 12:21:37 PM#34
For all you fanboys crying its a beta.....well it was scheduled by AV to launch FIRM Dec 12th. Now with these "so called" issues being listed....the real question is what is really going on?

....Being Banned from MMORPG's forums since 2010, for Trolling the Trolls!!!

  YojimboBimbo

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Posts: 174

12/18/12 12:21:52 PM#35
I don't think y'all do get it the way you have been acting.  If it isn't working or driving you all in such a rage, then don't play.  Go do something else.
  Zyzra

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12/18/12 12:25:37 PM#36
Originally posted by YojimboBimbo
 If it isn't working or driving you all in such a rage, then don't play.  Go do something else.

That sounds a lot like what many fans of this game say.  Usually in regards to the pvp and full loot though.

I mean if everyone followed that advice and did something else whenever Darkfall et al had a bug, glitch, or frustrating element, they'd probably have to cancel the game and try again.

wait...

  Hancakes

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Posts: 1106

12/18/12 12:29:25 PM#37
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes

Thus the game being in BETA

The problem is that when the game releases, it will still be in BETA.

Beta is at best a temporary excuse.

Choice quotes from the Darkfall website itself:

"a bit more time is needed. For the record, what’s left shouldn’t take more than a few days longer."

"we have done a lot of internal testing for the game, the platform has been thoroughly field tested, and the game has also been tested by external partners"

 

So don't worry guys, Aventurine fully expects these minor issues to only take a few days to iron out!

"It's just beta"

"It's just launch bugs"

"It's just a bug from patching"

"It's probably your crappy computer"

 

Denial, a sad state.

And the biggest issue is with the login, not the actual gameplay.  Obviously, you havent played.

  Zyzra

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Joined: 6/18/07
Posts: 363

12/18/12 12:32:28 PM#38
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes

Thus the game being in BETA

The problem is that when the game releases, it will still be in BETA.

Beta is at best a temporary excuse.

Choice quotes from the Darkfall website itself:

"a bit more time is needed. For the record, what’s left shouldn’t take more than a few days longer."

"we have done a lot of internal testing for the game, the platform has been thoroughly field tested, and the game has also been tested by external partners"

 

So don't worry guys, Aventurine fully expects these minor issues to only take a few days to iron out!

"It's just beta"

"It's just launch bugs"

"It's just a bug from patching"

"It's probably your crappy computer"

 

Denial, a sad state.

And the biggest issue is with the login, not the actual gameplay.  Obviously, you havent played.

No worries.  I'm sure they'll get the login issues worked out so people can  log in and many can play at once.

Then of course once a bunch of people are logged in and playing will the gameplay issues show up.

But no worries, it's just a beta.

I have faith in Aventurine, after all they managed to release the first Darkfall without any bugs or issues.

  Zyzra

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Posts: 363

12/18/12 12:35:43 PM#39

Hopefully they release the game soon though.

After all, Mortal Online doesn't have any competition right now.

 

I am excited for the full loot PVP though.  I like the way Darkfall does full loot - you drop all your stuff which is cool because since it is so easy to get and common and worthless that it doesn't really matter to you and your attacker might not even bother looting it because his bank is full of the same crap.  it's so hardcore

  Hancakes

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Posts: 1106

12/18/12 12:36:12 PM#40
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Hancakes

Thus the game being in BETA

The problem is that when the game releases, it will still be in BETA.

Beta is at best a temporary excuse.

Choice quotes from the Darkfall website itself:

"a bit more time is needed. For the record, what’s left shouldn’t take more than a few days longer."

"we have done a lot of internal testing for the game, the platform has been thoroughly field tested, and the game has also been tested by external partners"

 

So don't worry guys, Aventurine fully expects these minor issues to only take a few days to iron out!

"It's just beta"

"It's just launch bugs"

"It's just a bug from patching"

"It's probably your crappy computer"

 

Denial, a sad state.

And the biggest issue is with the login, not the actual gameplay.  Obviously, you havent played.

No worries.  I'm sure they'll get the login issues worked out so people can  log in and many can play at once.

Then of course once a bunch of people are logged in and playing will the gameplay issues show up.

But no worries, it's just a beta.

I have faith in Aventurine, after all they managed to release the first Darkfall without any bugs or issues.

You can watch and QQ  while I  go play. Server up !!!

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