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  Slapshot1188

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12/16/12 12:16:32 PM#21
Originally posted by Energyo

 

First of all, about a few months ago I would have agreed with the line "RIP Mortal Online" but with recent patches the games population has skyrocketed and also the fact that a company would take donations in large number leads me to believe that they arent anywhere close to being finished. 

Firstly, the population went up because they launched a F2P/Freemium model.  Not because of any wonderful patch   Secondly, I cannot follow any path of logic that would lead me to believe that a company is doing GOOD because they asked for donations.  If anything could be inferred from that it would be quite the opposite.

The idea that SV has already coded the stuff that the donations would bring is absurd. This is something that they plan to outsource to help further the development though I suppose I could be wrong. The donation system is something that some of the community asked for, it's not like they just sprang it upon people and started asking for money. 

Well, I thought it was well published (over and over again) that right after The Awakening (or was it Dawn, or was it Epic Patch 1 or 2) that they would be focused on magic schools?   Now they are saying that their main programer is going to work on redoing mounts and tie in these two new ones as a "donation goal".  Sounds like the programmer is being pulled from what was promised to people paying a subscription to support what is now promised for donations.

The reason some people wanted the donation system is because of the kind of game MO is and the potential it has. If some guy with extra money wants to throw some of his cash on the game because he loves it so much then who cares.

This I totally agree with.

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  Energyo

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12/16/12 2:13:41 PM#22
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

 

First of all, about a few months ago I would have agreed with the line "RIP Mortal Online" but with recent patches the games population has skyrocketed and also the fact that a company would take donations in large number leads me to believe that they arent anywhere close to being finished. 

Firstly, the population went up because they launched a F2P/Freemium model.  Not because of any wonderful patch   Secondly, I cannot follow any path of logic that would lead me to believe that a company is doing GOOD because they asked for donations.  If anything could be inferred from that it would be quite the opposite.

The idea that SV has already coded the stuff that the donations would bring is absurd. This is something that they plan to outsource to help further the development though I suppose I could be wrong. The donation system is something that some of the community asked for, it's not like they just sprang it upon people and started asking for money. 

Well, I thought it was well published (over and over again) that right after The Awakening (or was it Dawn, or was it Epic Patch 1 or 2) that they would be focused on magic schools?   Now they are saying that their main programer is going to work on redoing mounts and tie in these two new ones as a "donation goal".  Sounds like the programmer is being pulled from what was promised to people paying a subscription to support what is now promised for donations.

The reason some people wanted the donation system is because of the kind of game MO is and the potential it has. If some guy with extra money wants to throw some of his cash on the game because he loves it so much then who cares.

This I totally agree with.

 

Well with 1 guy doing the coding for the game sytems and 1 guy doing the UI I doubt that you will see many things being accomplished without outsourcing or hiring new programmers. They are focusing on bug fixing and doing things they can do to help the game immeiately. I never said the company is doing good because they are accepting donations. Shit I never said they were doing good at all. I said they arent going anywhere for awhile. They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know. I've also never said stocks were going up etc.

The population is up because of the F2P no shit... lol. But there are quite a few of those guys going premium, but F2P or not the bottom line is the population is up and it is the highest I've seen it in quite awhile. <- that line is not saying the population is great and that there are thousands of players. I'm telling it like it is, the population IS up and the game is at least does not feel like it is empty and you see people in all towns now.

 

  Slapshot1188

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12/16/12 2:45:01 PM#23
Originally posted by Energyo

 They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know.

Link please.  Something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement.  A simple look at their financials would prove that to be a false statement.  So if they did in fact state that I would love to see it.

 

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  deathshroud

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OP  12/16/12 4:18:29 PM#24
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

 They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know.

Link please.  Something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement.  A simple look at their financials would prove that to be a false statement.  So if they did in fact state that I would love to see it.

 

 

unoffically they said they would keep the gmae running in their free time still working on it, so its unlikely to close. I beleive mats is already doing this.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Energyo

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12/16/12 6:42:50 PM#25
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

 They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know.

Link please.  Something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement.  A simple look at their financials would prove that to be a false statement.  So if they did in fact state that I would love to see it.

 

 

Why would I make the fuckin statement up? lol... I don't know how many times on this site I have to make myself clear that I am not a fanboy and that I have been just as critical of MO as anyone else BUT with recent changes I have been enjoying the game again and have seen major improvements.

Just because you don't like the game and you think there's all sorts of conspiracys doesn't mean that other people don't enjoy the game at its current state.

 

  SirFubar

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12/16/12 6:53:23 PM#26
Originally posted by Energyo
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

 They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know.

Link please.  Something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement.  A simple look at their financials would prove that to be a false statement.  So if they did in fact state that I would love to see it.

 

 

Why would I make the fuckin statement up? lol... I don't know how many times on this site I have to make myself clear that I am not a fanboy and that I have been just as critical of MO as anyone else BUT with recent changes I have been enjoying the game again and have seen major improvements.

Just because you don't like the game and you think there's all sorts of conspiracys doesn't mean that other people don't enjoy the game at its current state.

 

If you want people to believe you, provide source. Else everything you're saying will be base on opinion or just plain false.

  Energyo

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12/16/12 6:54:22 PM#27
Originally posted by SirFubar
Originally posted by Energyo
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

 They've also said at their state before the 3-4 recent patches that they could go on for another 2 years. How? I don't know.

Link please.  Something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement.  A simple look at their financials would prove that to be a false statement.  So if they did in fact state that I would love to see it.

 

 

Why would I make the fuckin statement up? lol... I don't know how many times on this site I have to make myself clear that I am not a fanboy and that I have been just as critical of MO as anyone else BUT with recent changes I have been enjoying the game again and have seen major improvements.

Just because you don't like the game and you think there's all sorts of conspiracys doesn't mean that other people don't enjoy the game at its current state.

 

If you want people to believe you, provide source. Else everything you're saying will be base on opinion or just plain false.

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM.

  Slapshot1188

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Joined: 5/06/07
Posts: 4190

12/16/12 7:18:02 PM#28
Originally posted by Energyo

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM.

I see.. so you have no source you can cite other than hearing it from a friend of a friend through a volunteer GM.  OK. 

 

The problem is that you came onto these forums complaining that OTHER people were giving bad information, then you give information that is extraordinarilly unlikely to be true, and are unable to provide a source or link.  OK.  You continue to believe heresay and scuttlebutt.  Fair enough and that's your option.  I will continue to believe the officially posted information that I CAN actually link you to if you so desire.

 

Deathshroud,   sure it could always continue as a hobby/private server concept I suppose, but aren't there licensing issues with EPIC for the Unreal Enginer?  Bandwidth?  Server Hosting?  Someone has to pay the bills...

 

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  YojimboBimbo

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Joined: 9/25/12
Posts: 174

12/16/12 7:23:00 PM#29
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM.

I see.. so you have no source you can cite other than hearing it from a friend of a friend through a volunteer GM.  OK. 

 

The problem is that you came onto these forums complaining that OTHER people were giving bad information, then you give information that is extraordinarilly unlikely to be true, and are unable to provide a source or link.  OK.  You continue to believe heresay and scuttlebutt.  Fair enough and that's your option.  I will continue to believe the officially posted information that I CAN actually link you to if you so desire.

 

 

 

Haha owned.  

"A friend of a friend's cousin's uncle told my aunt betty that she heard from her milkman who read it on the wall in a loo that SV is on top of things!  By the way, everyone else on these boards provide misinformation..."

  Lizardone

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12/16/12 7:30:24 PM#30
this game seems to be in life support
  Ice-Queen

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"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

12/16/12 8:20:22 PM#31
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
Am I reading this right?  They create content for the game but won't put it in unless people donate enough money.. What the hell?

As long as people keep throwing away their money, they'll keep doing it. I'm all for subscription based games, but begging for money and only putting stuff ingame if you donate is unusual.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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  deathshroud

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OP  12/16/12 11:09:13 PM#32
Originally posted by Tayah
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
Am I reading this right?  They create content for the game but won't put it in unless people donate enough money.. What the hell?

As long as people keep throwing away their money, they'll keep doing it. I'm all for subscription based games, but begging for money and only putting stuff ingame if you donate is unusual.

its unusual, but if the people playing it are willing to donate then so be it. So long as they are aware they are paying a monthly sub which is supposed to cover this sort of thing, then its all good.

 

 

im sure the community are glad they finally might get the content they have been asking for, but at the same time it seems wrong that content so badly needed should be added only with certain donation goals, Hopefully we see more on what the devs are working on themselves if these funds are going to outsourced developers to make content.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Toferio

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12/17/12 4:13:57 AM#33
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM. 

Deathshroud,   sure it could always continue as a hobby/private server concept I suppose, but aren't there licensing issues with EPIC for the Unreal Enginer?  Bandwidth?  Server Hosting?  Someone has to pay the bills...

Running a smallscale mmorpg is relatively cheap once you launch it. I am certain that donations and the few subs remaining would cover that cost. If they will be running it as a hobby, they won't need to pay salaries and only pay upkeep. As for the license, I am pretty sure it was a one time payment.

  Hancakes

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12/17/12 1:28:27 PM#34
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM. 

Deathshroud,   sure it could always continue as a hobby/private server concept I suppose, but aren't there licensing issues with EPIC for the Unreal Enginer?  Bandwidth?  Server Hosting?  Someone has to pay the bills...

Running a smallscale mmorpg is relatively cheap once you launch it.

So why is SV losing so much money every month?

  jmlane223

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12/17/12 7:01:32 PM#35

Crazy they are asking people for money when they have a game that contains so much broken content....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UX_me4_EQk

  Toferio

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12/17/12 7:01:41 PM#36
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by Energyo

Not asking him to believe me, I said "why would I make the fucking statement up?" And to be clear, he's saying "something tells me there is no such link and that is a made up statement." I'm not asking him to believe me but there's no reason for me to make such a thing up and no I'm not going to go searching for a source and shit lol, was on IRC when I read it, I didn't believe it myself and questioned it and it was confirmed by several other people. (Another edit to add) One of those other people = a GM. 

Deathshroud,   sure it could always continue as a hobby/private server concept I suppose, but aren't there licensing issues with EPIC for the Unreal Enginer?  Bandwidth?  Server Hosting?  Someone has to pay the bills...

Running a smallscale mmorpg is relatively cheap once you launch it.

So why is SV losing so much money every month?

Because salaries?

  deathshroud

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OP  12/17/12 7:13:35 PM#37
Originally posted by jmlane223

Crazy they are asking people for money when they have a game that contains so much broken content....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UX_me4_EQk

that video shows nothing at all, some guy with a bow killing afks, the video is speeded up. The damage isnt described and killing a naked new player with a bow can be done with 1 or 2 hits to the head anyway.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  jmlane223

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12/17/12 7:38:47 PM#38
actually you can tell that its not sped up if you look. Why are some people running in place? Obviously something glitchy is going on. Also how could he run around and avoid so many guards? Give you a little hint, I know the video is not fake and that there is a damage hack for bows :)
  deathshroud

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OP  12/17/12 8:26:09 PM#39
Originally posted by jmlane223
actually you can tell that its not sped up if you look. Why are some people running in place? Obviously something glitchy is going on. Also how could he run around and avoid so many guards? Give you a little hint, I know the video is not fake and that there is a damage hack for bows :)

i beleive he didnt restart his client and the video is speeded up. after server downtime if you dont restart your client you become out of sync between client and game.

 

 

game is broken, hes just using the broken engine with exploiting, it doesnt show 500 damage bows. just a guy whos desynced killing noobs.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  YojimboBimbo

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12/17/12 11:38:48 PM#40
Originally posted by deathshroud
Originally posted by jmlane223
actually you can tell that its not sped up if you look. Why are some people running in place? Obviously something glitchy is going on. Also how could he run around and avoid so many guards? Give you a little hint, I know the video is not fake and that there is a damage hack for bows :)

i beleive he didnt restart his client and the video is speeded up. after server downtime if you dont restart your client you become out of sync between client and game.

 

 

game is broken, hes just using the broken engine with exploiting, it doesnt show 500 damage bows. just a guy whos desynced killing noobs.

As long as we can agree it is broken.  =P

You waiting on the df2 beta release?

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