Originally posted by Cakeisyummeh

Originally posted by Avarix
Look no further, we have found the Grinch! It's silly and people find them fun, as with all things in life; If it's not harming anyone, do what you want!

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Originally posted by Chlerub

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

I don't like that holliday events seem to be a requirement instead of a fun thing that is added to the game, just because.

 

However; when creating a world, the people in that world will have holidays and seasonal events. In a Traditional fantasy setting, there will probaby be some sort of harvest festival, a winter solstice festival, a spring renewal or fertility festival.

 

So I can see Dev's creating these events if it creates the feeling of a living world. But if the devs are just going down a checklist: ""We have to have Halloween event, check, Christmas event, check, Valentine event, check..." Then I am with you and would rather they just didn't. 

This hits it right on the head.

I'm totally onboard with events that are based on the games lore.

But don't throw some stupid christmas stuff into a setting where it doesn't belong.

It really gets on my nerves. I loathe religious holidays and it upsets me to have to endure them.

I'm an atheist, and I put up a Christmas tree and decorate the house every year. We open presents and have a big breakfast with a Christmas ham. We make a day out of it. The only thing I don't do is put up a nativity set. For me, Christmas has nothing at all to do with religion. I'm guessing you don't have a family. If you do what do you tell your kids? My parents never took me to church or even mentioned what Christmas was about. It was just a time when everything got decorated real pretty and my whole family came together to celebrate being a family.

Shrugs, to each his own, but I think you need to loosen up a bit. It's a video game. Suspend disbelief for a bit and go try and have some fun instead of being such a negative nancy. 

edit: I've never once seen an in-game holiday be directly associated with religion which seems to be your biggest gripe. It's not like Ironforge has nativity sets and cruicifixes all over the place. 

Depends on the event.

In L2 they currently have one that made everyone and their mother log on their lv85+ chars to idle in the cities for rewards.

The consequence is 3 server restarts a day , 2-3s server lag and constantly full servers (obviosly it is mad to expect a higher cap than 7k, its not like every second bootlegged russian server can be stable with 15-20k people online...)

(If someone goes trough my post history: Yes, this is how i vent :) )

Flame on!

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Originally posted by Banquetto
I would much much much prefer to see devs spend the same effort designing their own in-universe special events and festivals, rather than churning out MMO Christmas or Halloween #53467.

I love me some holidays to liven up the game world, but every MMO just seems to be going through the motions.

Now we're talking!  That would make much more sense.

And while they're at it, keep most of them to a single day (some can be a few days to a week but that should be the exception) and not drag out every holiday for weeks on end.

seasonal events are good but not those that have anything to do with reality / real world

since the games are fictional, make fictional days for different celebrations

how hard is that?

As predictable as are holiday events now in MMO's so are the "I hate MMO holiday event" threads that pop up around a holiday. I don't mind holiday events. What I'd like to see though is more random events happening in MMO's.

Originally posted by Chlerub

I play MMOs to get immersed in a universe that is far removed from reality.

Now every year, in literally every single MMO out there, they annoy the crap out of me

with these Halloween and Christmas updates.

Seriously now, what the hell?

I'm not playing games to be constantly reminded that some superstitious ritual is going on around me.

There is a simple reason i'm actually playing the game - to espace reality.

If you absolutely must have season events, come up with some interesting lore,

but please please please with sugar on top,

stop reminding me of the shit that i'm trying to get away from.

 

Christmas in GW2? - Vomit!

Snow flakes and christmas trees in WoW? - Bite me!

Fricking snow ball launchers in Eve? - What the frack?

Halloween masks in Rift? - Are you kidding me..

 

How do you folks think about this?

Most cultures have seasonal events of some kind based on crops, rebirth, harvest, solstice...

Most cultures have some sort of celebration and superstition regarding the dead.

Is it too far fetched then to assume a make believe culture would not have a similar pattern of seasonal events and or some celebration/superstition. 

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Most cultures have seasonal events of some kind based on crops, rebirth, harvest, solstice...

Most cultures have some sort of celebration and superstition regarding the dead.

Is it too far fetched then to assume a make believe culture would not have a similar pattern of seasonal events and or some celebration/superstition. 

This is where most games go wrong in my opinion. Having festivals and holidays timed around real life holidays is perfectly fine to me, but they need to be sure the flavor fits the world rather than defaulting to real world decorations and assumptions. I think FFXI did them the best of all the games I've played; they were truly tied to the world but still made sense in real world timing.

FFXI did it right I feel. Tie seasonal events to ingame lore and culture. Pretty sure there's a handful of games that have done it this way, but FFXI is the only one I can recall right now.

It's not a huge deal either way, but for the most part i've not been impressed or participated in most MMO season events.

Not religious so I don't think of any of them as tied to religion. Ex. I give gifts for xmas but it's in the spirit of the real santa that gave cash to poor children. That's why I can use the x in the name and remove the religious aspect.

I'd probably prefer to see some lore version of holidays. Then they could put them in as often as they like since it's fantasy and a way to introduce significant story events to me that I should know even if I next, next, next the story. I don't really have a burning desire to play a human holiday in games I visit but it also doesn't bother me much. Usually, they aren't mandatory and only offer fluff.

Originally posted by Chlerub

Don't get me wrong - i'm not against season events.

I'm against season events that are rooted in the REAL WORLD,

especially the religious kind that make my blood boil.

 

These companies invest a lot of sweat and money to immerse you in their strange world and lore,

just to smack you in the face every single year with "Look! It's Christmas".

Which in 99% of the case has absolutely nothing to do with the game.

They simply throw overboard all the crap they went through just to give you some snow balls,

a christmas tree and some stupid halloween boss or whatnot.

It's annoying, it's completely disconnected from the game setting and in my personal case it offends my intellect to

have to deal with these primitive and superstitious traditions.

What you call "primitive" and "superstitious" is another persons BELIEF. Honestly just because some people actually enjoy them and believe in them doesnt make them "primitive" and you more "intelligent" get off your high horse.

You are the epitome of an arrogant atheist. You give other atheists and agnostic people a bad name.

Christmas is 99% non-religious nowadays anyway. I know some Jews who feel that if they celebrate it then they'd be insulting their heritage (that I can understand). But other than that I think the people who hate chrismas aren't your run-of-the-mill atheists but instead are just the religion-intolerant people.

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IMHO, the problem with holidays for MMOs is that it's the devs/GMs who decide if and how the holidays are observed...

If the game is a sandbox, the players could decide whether or not to decorate their player-made town for the holidays. The players could to make their buildings and town look exactly how they want it to look... Or they could make it that way year-round, or they could celebrate christmas in July instead, or whatever.

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Originally posted by greenreen
That's why I can use the x in the name and remove the religious aspect.
 

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(You do realize that the X is a 1000+ year old abbreviation for "Christ", right? --- But I agree with the main point of your post though)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp

MMOs have no time. Seasons don't exist.

It is ALWAYS summertime in Elwynn Forest. Harvest never is "a time" in the game world. Harvest happens everyday.

Snow only falls in the snowy zones.

Some arbitrary declaration by the devs does not make it so. The game world disagrees.

Holidays are indicators of time passing. The holidays seem to fall when real life time passes, not game world time.

They are overdone. Stick a fork in holiday events already. I find myself NOT logging in during events to miss the rat race that ensues with said events.

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Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
I have to admit, instead of a generic holliday events, I wouldn't mind a company spending time creating actual seasons in a game, Spring, Summer, FAll, Winter. It's odd that they'll have seasonal holliday events but the games themselves have no seasons.

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That would be nice =)