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  Ridelynn

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12/16/12 6:30:47 PM#41

I could care less what your native language/culture is.

The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. I don't have a problem with it just because someone doesn't speak english, or has trouble with the language. In fact, the less the game forces me to communicate (while still being challenging for the party), the more fun I usually have.

Then again, I hate Vent/Mumble/TS/whatever... and I do type/chat to people, so it's not like I'm a mute, but a lot of times it just comes down to me and some other person communicating via emotes and broken speech and whatever else is in game to communicate with - which is fun in it's own right. Even if it's held me up from some artificial in-game objective, the new real objective of figuring out what we are doing has replaced it and become more fun in the first place.

  ObiClownobi

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12/16/12 6:42:06 PM#42
Yes it bothers me immensely when on an English server half the chat is stuff like LRN 2 PLY NOOB, I wish these people would learn to speak English instead of their cretinous foreign lingo.


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  Raskbuck

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12/17/12 1:56:41 AM#43

As a non-native speaker, I'm glad to see a big share of you don't mind the presence of international players. From my personal point of view, having a big variety of people from different places allows us to learn from other cultures, which is always nice. My best gaming experiences are thanks to it; forming a group of like-minded individuals, despite their origin, trying to achieve the same goal... I believe that's the beauty of MMOs and Online Games in general.

Of course, there are bad apples everywhere. From people that pester you constantly in a foreign language to players that simply refuse to interact with non-native speakers. In the end, jerks will be jerks, no matter where they come from.

  Nesrie

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12/17/12 2:01:04 AM#44
Originally posted by CalmOceans

When a non-native person  (like me I guess) joins an English server, some people tend to get annoyed and frustrated,

-Is it because of that person's place of origin? Do you feel they won't be able to relate because of cultural differences?

-Is it because their English is often so bad that there's a real communication barrier?

-Is it because they write in their own language at times?

 

No. It does not bother me at all. If they don't experience any server issues, I think it is perfectly fine. It can be a little frustrating when different languages are being exchanged and you cannot read them. This is minor though, and having a diverse server outweights language barriers.

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  fivoroth

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12/17/12 3:02:50 AM#45
I don't mind at all. As long as they can speak basic English, it's all good.  However, I can understand it if someone comes to an English server and doesn't speak any English. Last time I checked there were only French, German, English and maybe Italian/Spanish servers. If you don't speak any of these languages, what then? You roll on an English server and that's perfectly fine.

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  tupodawg999

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12/17/12 5:21:20 AM#46
Originally posted by CalmOceans

When a non-native person  (like me I guess) joins an English server, some people tend to get annoyed and frustrated,

-Is it because of that person's place of origin? Do you feel they won't be able to relate because of cultural differences?

-Is it because their English is often so bad that there's a real communication barrier?

-Is it because they write in their own language at times?

 

Personally i don't get annoyed. I'm not sure why some people do. I sometimes think it's because they see it as *breaking the rules* or something like that.

I get really annoyed at the people who complain about it. If there are only English, French and German language servers then what are people who speak other languages supposed to do?

The swtor servers have this stupid argument every 20 minutes or so.

I wish games would say "English-preferred" or something like that instead so people would shut up about it. If someone is using a language you don't understand then just put them on ignore. If everyone does that then you can have an infinite language server.

edit: or have "international" servers with no fixed language

  Scot

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12/17/12 5:37:16 AM#47

As long as they can speak the official server language well enough then it is fine. A server community needs people to speak the same language, it is that simple.

There are many MMO's in Korea, they do not have English servers, I do not play on them expecting people to understand me and go out of their way to try to help me understand the game.

So what people who do not understand the server language are expected to do is not play the game. I don't want to put players on ignore, I want them to be able to fully take part in the game. I don't expect players to be masters of English, there are a lot of players from English speaking nations who are not that. You need a reasonable standard of the server language to play a MMO, unless you are roleplaying that is not a very high level.

  oubers

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12/17/12 5:44:09 AM#48

The only times it bothers me is when the french or the germans join english servers when there are plenty of french and german servers to go around....if they have servers in their own language why on earth are they joining the english ones AND then refuse the talk english....that bothers the living sh** out of me.

I am from belgium myself and i would love to see dutch servers also....but since my french and my german is both soo bad i join an english one and i speak english there....it makes communicating alot more easy.

For the record: i have nothing against the french or the german but both of them are known in europe as people who just refuse to learn another language (not all of them offcource). when i visit france (i just adore the country and the people there) i try to talk as much french as i can. They should all at least TRY to type english imho or go to their own servers. But that is just mho.

I dont mind people spelling things wrong ingame, as long as i can understand what they are trying to say that is ok for me.

 

  Enerzeal

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12/17/12 6:00:44 AM#49

Just don't force it down my throat as a requirement, then I am fine, I really don't care what language you speak or what language you type in.

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  Dakeru

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12/17/12 6:32:05 AM#50

On GW2 I joined Far Shiverpeaks knowing it would be a mix of North-Germanic, Germanic and Slavic tribes which I enjoy. Though by now the Slavic  tribes left.

 

Only thing I dislike is that Anet put us up against >European< servers, which were in fact heavily populated by Canadians.

So every night they would conquer all bases while we were sleeping.  But that's a fuck up made by Anet and not really about culture.

  Malcanis

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12/17/12 9:14:39 AM#51

Huh this never occurred to me as an issue.

An unconsidered benefit of the single-server model, I guess.

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  Coman

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12/17/12 9:19:19 AM#52
Originally posted by Sytek_88
only thing that bugs me is when they speak a foriegn language on a NA server in general chat

You have to take into consideration though that French is not a foriegn language for a NA server :P

  Sovrath

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12/17/12 9:22:09 AM#53
Not me. I take it as a given that people from all over the world might be on my server.
  lizardbones

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12/17/12 9:22:29 AM#54


Originally posted by CalmOceans
When a non-native person  (like me I guess) joins an English server, some people tend to get annoyed and frustrated,

-Is it because of that person's place of origin? Do you feel they won't be able to relate because of cultural differences?

-Is it because their English is often so bad that there's a real communication barrier?

-Is it because they write in their own language at times?

 




I've never been on a server or game where it was actually an issue. I always thought it was kind of cool when another language showed up in chat.

I do remember when Blizzard did something to their server locations and a bunch of Portuguese speaking people showed up on one or two servers. It created an issue because there was no majority population so it became the people speaking English (or whatever they were speaking, might have been Spanish) versus the people speaking Portuguese. Blizzard finally setup some Portuguese servers, which I think alleviated the issue, but it was a problem.

I think it's only an issue when people are left to decide for themselves what everyone should speak and there's no majority language on a server.

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  Giddian

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12/17/12 9:23:08 AM#55

As long as it doesnt interupt the flow of the game, Im good with it.

If you have to stop everything because of communication Issue, It's disruptive.

  Terranah

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12/17/12 9:27:54 AM#56

I think as long as the person speaks the native tongue it's not an issue.  I've had friends from various European countries and Australia and consider myself richer for the experience.

 

One drawback though is the use of voice programs like Teamspeak or ventrilo. While accents are not really noticeable in text, trying to understand instructions during a raid when everyone has very thick accents is difficult.  I remember one of my buddies joining an  australian guild and so I joined.  Even though they were speaking English, it was really hard for me to understand them at times, especially in the heat of the moment when accents can sometimes get even thicker.  The other problem was the time of day they were typically on was different.  But that's what I agreed to when I signed on, and they were a nice group of people.

  Sovrath

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12/17/12 9:31:15 AM#57
I'll add that in Lineage 2 there were people from other countries who had very little english and I successfully partied with them once we got what needed to happen down. This was earlier in the game's history when there were not only asian farmer but actual asian players.
  Scot

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12/17/12 9:47:40 AM#58

Voice chat causes more problem than text, but you still don't need a degree in English to take part in a raid conversation. Our German guy in one MMO was hesitant to speak as he was worried about his pronunciation. Once he got passed that we had him leading raids.

So the importance of speaking the server language is about the ability to take part in what’s on offer.

As for the cultural thing, if you are playing a MMO you are almost certainly in a country where "culture" is determined by the media. I don't think culture exists anymore, we now only really only have media fashion, which becomes more alike the world over day by day. So I am not sure what cultural differences could be a problem.

  causs

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12/17/12 9:54:07 AM#59
I'm a non-native player in Rift. I'm Dutch but play on the american shard. Very friendly guild, no issues at all. I can speak English. This counts for me, please respect the server you're on, so talk in the language of the server. If it's english, talk english.
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  Pouf

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12/17/12 9:57:46 AM#60

I like this post. I am personally a french canadian, and when I play with my friends it is like someone said : I will speak in english in every common/general/trade/party chat. I will talk in french sometimes ,but in whispers.

 

I personally hate when other french people ( my kind , i guess ) Speak french over general chat, or any other language. Most game offers servers for em, so if they really want it they can join them.

I play wow a lot and it is getting really annoying to be queued with portugese players, mostly because they do not even know how to speak english and that they queue 2 or 3 together and keep spamming party chat with portugese text, that is really annoying

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