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  IsilithTehroth

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Joined: 9/14/05
Posts: 155

12/16/12 2:31:21 PM#41

I wrote a big artifcle on their forums about the glaring problems the game has. Most veterans agreed, but then you get the Fps instant gratification crowd who just want a simple minded fragfest fps. Completely different than ps1 is because $OE is only out there to make money.

 

Hell I never played ps1 and I can tell that game is a much more diverse, richer and deeper experience than zerging with 100 tanks, after slaping a sundy down to spawn. Followed by  re-capping the same base for the 8th time to get a marginal boost of resources that you don't pay attention to anyways. Sadly the game Will flop once people get bored of the game smell. The game offeres nothing except fps combat that is undermined by the unbalances of factions weapons, vehicles, and zerging.

 

The only progess the game offers is the cert system, so you can unlock the same skinned weapons that doesn't really diverse from another.  They should have improved upon the first one but instead they made a shallow, buggy, laggy, zerg oriented, fragfest game that caters solely to the casual instant gratifcation crowd who coincedently enough, are the ones that buy the item shop things.

What can you expect out of $OE other than to ruin a great franchise, undermining their playerbase/veterans for what they feel is a good idea. $OE is just a bad company and grinds games into the ground then makes them F2p to absorb any cash they can while it slowly withers away on life support.

Sadly this is the way the market is. We have all the WoW clones(SW:Tor,rift, aion,).Then the ones that make a good foundation, but end up trying to be like the WoW mold(AoC, Dcuo) that keep copying each other failing within 2-3 month periods, followed by the garbage, incompetant development teams/companies that release sandbox mmorpgs that looks as though they were developed in their mother's basement as a hobby(Mortal online, Xyson, ect.).

Followed by the games that could be amazing but the development team and company are lazy, competely incompetant and devoid of what should be improved upon and added as well as lacking in features and substance (Darkfall online, All points bulletin).

MurderHerd

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/16/12 2:39:25 PM#42
"i never played planetside 1, but its better"

Lolity frikin lol
  IsilithTehroth

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Joined: 9/14/05
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12/16/12 3:17:28 PM#43
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"i never played planetside 1, but its better"

Lolity frikin lol

I don't have to play the game find information on what the game was like. Cert caps, not everyone being able to drive vehicles and what not. From playing Ps2 I witnessed all the problems the game has, and it just so happens PS1 corrected those faults or didn't have them to begin with.


I bet you are one of those CoD players that just want a larger fragfest.

MurderHerd

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/16/12 3:45:11 PM#44
Nope I hate cod and console style shooters in general.

Unlike you I did play planetside 1 though
  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
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12/16/12 3:46:18 PM#45
Oh and everyone can drive every vehicle so you got that little "fact" wrong too.
  User Deleted
12/16/12 5:44:45 PM#46

I figured this game would have longetivity issues after an article published here showed some of the things missing from PS1.

Without continent locking and progression, the game is at the end of the day just a pointless fragfest like any other shooter. There isn't much to push forward to, resources are always plentiful and passive bonuses really aren't that amazing. Worse still, is people are starting to ignore bothering with defense, and instead just focus on back capping, especially since that seems to be a faster way to gain certs than the small exp bonus you get for defending.

The continent/base progression feature worked extremely well for PS1 and was a lot of fun, it added a larger long term strategic layer to the game. I can't figure out why they decided to leave it out of the release for PS2.

 

The game has other issues as well, some of which the OP mentioned. The lack of underground facilities/infantry designed areas have really made defending/assaulting facilities boil down to who has the most tanks and aircraft for the most part. Although last night I did see a squad of MAX's hold off a pretty large ESF zerg.

 

 

Anyways, i'm still enjoying the game for now, but it's not something I see myself playing for more than a month or two in it's current state.

  Beanpuie

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Joined: 6/15/07
Posts: 810

12/16/12 6:46:47 PM#47
Originally posted by DarkLordIxor

I wrote a big artifcle on their forums about the glaring problems the game has. Most veterans agreed, but then you get the Fps instant gratification crowd who just want a simple minded fragfest fps. Completely different than ps1 is because $OE is only out there to make money.

 

Hell I never played ps1 and I can tell that game is a much more diverse, richer and deeper experience than zerging with 100 tanks, after slaping a sundy down to spawn. Followed by  re-capping the same base for the 8th time to get a marginal boost of resources that you don't pay attention to anyways. Sadly the game Will flop once people get bored of the game smell. The game offeres nothing except fps combat that is undermined by the unbalances of factions weapons, vehicles, and zerging.

 

The only progess the game offers is the cert system, so you can unlock the same skinned weapons that doesn't really diverse from another.  They should have improved upon the first one but instead they made a shallow, buggy, laggy, zerg oriented, fragfest game that caters solely to the casual instant gratifcation crowd who coincedently enough, are the ones that buy the item shop things.

What can you expect out of $OE other than to ruin a great franchise, undermining their playerbase/veterans for what they feel is a good idea. $OE is just a bad company and grinds games into the ground then makes them F2p to absorb any cash they can while it slowly withers away on life support.

Sadly this is the way the market is. We have all the WoW clones(SW:Tor,rift, aion,).Then the ones that make a good foundation, but end up trying to be like the WoW mold(AoC, Dcuo) that keep copying each other failing within 2-3 month periods, followed by the garbage, incompetant development teams/companies that release sandbox mmorpgs that looks as though they were developed in their mother's basement as a hobby(Mortal online, Xyson, ect.).

Followed by the games that could be amazing but the development team and company are lazy, competely incompetant and devoid of what should be improved upon and added as well as lacking in features and substance (Darkfall online, All points bulletin).

 

If you spoke to those veterans, can you go back and ask them  specifically how they felt about Planetside 1 in its vanilla state?

and yea, i disagree. not after going through interfarm dadga and tower of power marathons on ps1

  Enerzeal

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Joined: 6/27/10
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There is no good or evil, only power - and those too weak to seek it.

12/16/12 7:55:39 PM#48
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's not pay to win

All the real upgrades must be earned and can not be bought with cash

Well, I don't think it matters what you would like to call it, a FPS where characters can progress by spending money or playing for an extremely long time, is going to become a hostile place for new players really quickly.

At least in UT and Quake people start out on the same foot, and at least that game had different servers for different difficulties, in PS2 total newbees are bunched up with vets who spent hundreds of dollars on items.

It just seems pretty ridiculous to me.

You are beyond wrong, do me a favor and put some time in with the game before you go spouting bullshit like this, normally I wouldn't swear but what you are doing right now is spreading garbage about a game that could hurt its player base.

The Terran Republic Medic class gets a gun called the T1 Cycler, it is fantastic, it is easily the best on that class. It rips people apart. I spent 100 certs (see two-three hours of cert farming) on the silencer, which actually nerfs the guns damage and range, I just like the sound. I spent 30 certs on a 2.1x reflex (see one hour of farming). I have also spent 100 more certs (see previous estimates) for the laser sight to help with hip fire. So this gun has been completely modified to my standards in five hours play.

The other extras I have added include about 30 certs in the extra hp, and 500 certs in the medic gun to revive people at 100% hp, including the free to play people who don't spend a penny.

To anyone who reads this ignore this poster, they are wrong, and uneducated and seem to think it fine to slander a game without a proper set of facts.

To address one final point, if a vet spent 100s of dollars on this game they would gain access to many many different guns, the only other handgun. That's it, you can only carry one gun at a time, and a lot of the new guns are great at what they do.

You are a clueless idiot.

  joeballs

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Joined: 12/02/05
Posts: 162

12/16/12 8:00:10 PM#49
Hmm, judging from that wall of text and the main complaint, it sounds like you need a job.
  Greyflame11

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Joined: 11/29/08
Posts: 45

12/17/12 1:42:32 AM#50

It seems to me, the point that many of the complainers are missing is that this game is not just about individual accomplishment but rather it is a team game. This fixation on "pay to upgrade weapons" and even aimbot hackers seems a bit ridicules when you're part of an organized squad or platoon because they make very little difference in the game. Got the best weapon in the game? Try to stop all 48 members of that platoon all gunning for your position. Got the latest aimbot hack? Sure you'll kill a few of the members of the platoon before you're gunned down over and over again by them while the medics are rezzing the ones you killed while cheating...  

Now if you're playing as an individual in this huge team based game, then those things can have an impact on you (although I don't think the purchased guns make as big a difference as some believe)

If your one of those players who are not in an organized outfit, you really are missing one of the best parts of the game...

  TeknoBug

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Joined: 10/13/07
Posts: 2166

12/17/12 7:15:45 AM#51

Afte5r this weekend, I'm feeling the population hit myself.


  Khondor

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Joined: 11/27/10
Posts: 52

Don't Tread On Me!

12/17/12 7:19:34 PM#52
A clear case of keyboard diarrhea if I ever saw one.
  Celcius

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Joined: 7/20/04
Posts: 949

12/17/12 7:36:53 PM#53
I noticed a severe drop in population as well as the much rarer  big battles. Unfortunate because for me, and many others, the large scale battles were what made PS2 great. It is still a good game, but if  I want smaller scale stuff there are way more options out there for me that I don't have to dedicate as much time to in order to compete. Tonight, for example, the populations were all at Medium with the EU servers Low (obviously, not the prime time for them, but still bad) and even one US server at Low. (in prime time..) A population decline this quickly in a free to play MMO is not a good sign. 
  Threatlevel0

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Joined: 1/30/11
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12/17/12 7:41:40 PM#54
Originally posted by joeballs
Hmm, judging from that wall of text and the main complaint, it sounds like you need a job.

 

Jobs.   Recommended by 9 out of 10 forum dwellers.  

 

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  tixylix

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Joined: 12/02/11
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OP  12/18/12 6:23:22 PM#55
Originally posted by Threatlevel0
Originally posted by joeballs
Hmm, judging from that wall of text and the main complaint, it sounds like you need a job.

 

Jobs.   Recommended by 9 out of 10 forum dwellers.  

 

Also, many forum dwellers who recommended a Job also recommended getting Laid.   

 

Brought to you by Life.   Paid for by Jobs.   We do them to get Laid.   

 

A job is 9 hours of the day, 1 hour of which is made up of breaks and lunch. What do I do for the rest of the day like any other normal person? My Hobby......... which right now isn't gaming, it is going to forums and complaining there are no good MMOs any more. Been a great hobby for me since November 15th 2005.

  Teala

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12/18/12 7:22:52 PM#56
I really do not see this lack of big battles being a problem in PS2.   I never "not" seem to find a big battle - especially on Indar.   The fight for the Crossroads area is never ending - so when I want a huge battle I just go there.  :)

  Threatlevel0

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12/20/12 5:35:10 AM#57
Originally posted by tixylix
Originally posted by Threatlevel0
Originally posted by joeballs
Hmm, judging from that wall of text and the main complaint, it sounds like you need a job.

 

Jobs.   Recommended by 9 out of 10 forum dwellers.  

 

Also, many forum dwellers who recommended a Job also recommended getting Laid.   

 

Brought to you by Life.   Paid for by Jobs.   We do them to get Laid.   

 

A job is 9 hours of the day, 1 hour of which is made up of breaks and lunch. What do I do for the rest of the day like any other normal person? My Hobby......... which right now isn't gaming, it is going to forums and complaining there are no good MMOs any more. Been a great hobby for me since November 15th 2005.

 

That was actually just mock sarcasm, or just my failed sense of humor, take your pick.    

 

I'm near Battle Rank 20 myself on Planetside 2 though, and I agree with nearly everything in your OP.  But mostly, I just feel let down in variety.   And the single man aircraft, hate them with a passion.  When I was last getting on I found myself just wanting to get in a MAX Burster just to AA ESF's that could easily destroy me and my friend in a Tank or Liberator.   Then the bugs, before it was spawning a vehicle only to fall through the ground, now it's have your vehicle locked and be seemingly stuck in the warp zone until you exit and then are forced to just deconstruct.     

 

Guess I'll check back on the game down the road.   As is, I'm already burned out.  

  gt4980b

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12/20/12 11:26:13 AM#58

I think most the complaints in this thread will go away after a year.

SOE chose not to flood the game with massivev amounts of content but instead build and add slowly over time.  With a shooter, the core mechanics are the most important.  If that's not done right, no one is playing your game after the next MW hits.

About the guns being bland in appearance...I think SOE is trying not to use a lot of models so that gamers can submit skins through the Player Studio when it launches.  For those who not familiar with Player Studio, you can submit skins and models to be added to the game.  These items are sold in the cash shop and you get like 30% of each sale.  That's my theory, anyway.

I am not big into shooters but I enjoy my time in PS2.  This really makes me positive about what's going to be in EQ Next.  I can't wait to see that game next year.

Anyway, see you in game.

  tixylix

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Joined: 12/02/11
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OP  12/20/12 12:33:19 PM#59
Originally posted by gt4980b

I think most the complaints in this thread will go away after a year.

We've said that about every SOE game and they always fail to address the issues and focus on crap no one wants.

  timeraider

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12/20/12 1:16:28 PM#60

ofcourse some people left.. duuh.. it was released as a free game.. then 100% of the gaming community tries out the game, after some days people who dont like shooters leave for a different game

 

there you go.. theres your decline.. people who never would buy it even if it costet 1 dollar. those are the people we lose.

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