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General Discussion  » Planetside 2 is already on the decline.

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  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/15/12 1:53:32 PM#21
Lol who spends hundreds of dollars on items?

What will "hundreds of dollars" get you
It will get you a whole bunch of guns, of which you can only equip one at a time.

All the real upgrades are earned in game, armour, sights, rail attachments, ammo upgrades, carrying capacity, c4, alternate grenades etc.. you can't buy those.
  neosapience

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Joined: 7/17/04
Posts: 166

12/15/12 1:53:37 PM#22

You forgot about the rampant hacking and griefing. In most MMOs, these problems aren't a big deal. However, PS2 is purely PvP, which makes cheating absolutely intolerable. Every single death leaves you wondering... what really happened there?

 

Of course, if the game wasn't F2P, cheating wouldn't be an issue. Heck, I'd pay money for separate 'members only' servers just to get away from the F2P noobs.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/15/12 1:55:19 PM#23
Calm
Aren't you the pro pve Anti pvp person?
If so why would you be playing planetside anyway, there's no pve in it?
  elvenwolf

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Joined: 3/10/04
Posts: 140

12/15/12 1:56:16 PM#24

I just logged oof PLanetside 2 and there was still huge battles ongoing involving tons of infrantry, armoured veichles and aircrafts.

On a side note i really helped at some point with my MAX AA  taking down several smaller crafts and having liberators fly away, or shooting down a couple.

I don't know where do you play, but where i play there are always some big battles going on,  as AA operator i find myself often giving some help to the ground troops if anything i feel sorry for some of the smaller crafts pilots, if you know how to aim you can make their life very hard when they came for a strafe.

Sorry we are having opposite experiences.

Just yesterday we had a fantastic three way huge scrap between Vanu TR and NC all assaulting the same target, hell i am not even that good in this game and i have tons of fun, and yes i did play PS1 had fun with it, and i am having fun with PS2.

Is perfect ?  Naw, not at all, but is fun as hell to play, even for people like me that aren't crack shots or have the reflexes of a teenanger on a mountain dew rush.

 

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5120/7210363296_8357bee9de.jpg

  ShakyMo

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12/15/12 1:57:28 PM#25
Rampant hacking? Nope, seen a few hackers, been accused of it by noobs who couldn't look up, but less than many games I've played, less than gw2 for a start.

Greifing? Wtf? How can you be greifed in a pure pvp game, you make no sense.
  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 2067

12/15/12 2:13:11 PM#26
I don't even bother with defense anymore.  Not only is there no reward, but I usually end up being one of the few people who stick around.  So now, I just switch to sniper mode, grab a hillside somewhere and catch a few kills till they find my location and move on to the next cert farming capture point.  The game needs some serious attention to capture and defense mechanics, including a facility lockdown timer and going back to the mechanic that forced more than one person to stay on a capture point in order to not only gain influence, but to retain the point with your side's influence.  When they first introduced the new capture mechanic in beta, if you didn't stay on the capture point, it would immediately revert back to the defenders color.  This kept people from solo capturing multi-point facilities.  Why they took it out is beyond me.

  tixylix

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 1170

 
OP  12/15/12 8:57:02 PM#27
Originally posted by neosapience

You forgot about the rampant hacking and griefing. In most MMOs, these problems aren't a big deal. However, PS2 is purely PvP, which makes cheating absolutely intolerable. Every single death leaves you wondering... what really happened there?

 

Of course, if the game wasn't F2P, cheating wouldn't be an issue. Heck, I'd pay money for separate 'members only' servers just to get away from the F2P noobs.

 

I've never personally seen a hacker, though I'd only played 42 hours. 

  PieRad

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Joined: 11/14/08
Posts: 1169

12/16/12 12:56:37 AM#28

Pop is low during the night and mornings, people have to go to school and work to make a living you know.

Primetime is still pretty crazy.

 

If the pop have declined or not, I don't know, I don't have any stats or sources, but it sure haven't felt like it has declined at all.

 

 

  Goll25

Novice Member

Joined: 1/19/10
Posts: 187

12/16/12 1:01:30 AM#29
Two of my friends and I downloaded this last night and played it, as soon as we knew it was 4am. We haven't been so captivated by something since skyrim probably...
  Edelbert

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Joined: 9/23/12
Posts: 73

12/16/12 5:36:31 AM#30

My numer 1 concern is that whole Planetside 2 feels like BF3's Metro all over again. People are spamming explosives like there is no tomorrow, if they have no success with that,  game switches over to Tankside 2 because getting kills in vehicles is ridiculously easy.

It bores the crap outta me.

  Zinzan

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Joined: 3/03/06
Posts: 1372

12/16/12 5:52:36 AM#31
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's not pay to win

All the real upgrades must be earned and can not be bought with cash

You PAY for xp bonuses, without them your a mile behind the curve, loads of players on my server are BR50+ which is next to impossible without paying, hence you can PAY to get the upgrades, all of them.

You PAY to buy the better weapons which give you the advantage and help increase your xp gain, otherwise it takes a long-ass time to save that 1000 certs while paying players have already spent that on improved armour, kit, weapons, vehicles etc.

It's P2W and will be for a long time. If your not a paying player, your cannon fodder. This is how they did it in Planetside, they are just being much smarter about it in PS2 and sold it as F2P when in reality unless you like being farmed you really need to shell out some cash at some point.

Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  Aeolron

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Joined: 3/24/11
Posts: 664

Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

12/16/12 7:30:20 AM#32
Originally posted by CalmOceans

I don't understand this game at all.

I get the game itself, but it is pay-2-win. and newcomers who don't pay-2-win are at a ridiculous disadvantage.

In Unreal Tournament, without pay-2-win, newcomers were already at a disadvantage because of the lack of skill, add in pay-2-win and any player is going to be at such a disadvantage that it will take a lot of real cah or time to and deaths to enjoy the game.

FPS where players have advantages outside of skill seem pointless to me.

Nice try, this game is NOT P2W, might want to actualy play a P2W game and compare.

I just bought myself a gun today and was shot with a newb gun and it was a fair fight, I just don't get people like you, who think they should get everything for free, well put some money where your mouth is or quit gaming!

Sorry for the rant just getting alittle sick and tired of these complainers who think they are entitled to everything without paying a damn thing! SOE Needs to be alittle harder on the leeches to be honest.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/16/12 9:22:57 AM#33
You can tell the game is doing well and taking players from other mmos by the number of troll threads from people who obviously haven't played it.
  samvenice

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Joined: 7/30/11
Posts: 97

12/16/12 9:46:20 AM#34

lol at the better weapons.

there are NO BETTER WEAPONS.

All weapons are, overall, the same: one stat goes up, the other stat goes down. there is no weap with accuracy/firerate/dmg/etc all maxed - there's always a tradeoff. Stop this better weapons nonsense and l2p

  Dobeyxxl

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Joined: 3/04/10
Posts: 12

12/16/12 1:04:36 PM#35
Originally posted by tixylix
Originally posted by neosapience

You forgot about the rampant hacking and griefing. In most MMOs, these problems aren't a big deal. However, PS2 is purely PvP, which makes cheating absolutely intolerable. Every single death leaves you wondering... what really happened there?

 

Of course, if the game wasn't F2P, cheating wouldn't be an issue. Heck, I'd pay money for separate 'members only' servers just to get away from the F2P noobs.

 

I've never personally seen a hacker, though I'd only played 42 hours. 

How exactly would you be able to see a "hacker" in game anyway? Sure their are guys who speed and wall hack but that's not the only hacks their are. It would take multiple engagements with the same player in order to even be concerned that someone was using a esp hack and honestly if  a aim bot is configured properly you would never know if someone was using it.

I can tell you for certain that I know people using hacks in planetside and NO they have not been banned. Only people who have a esp hack themselves are able to clearly see who else has esp since they can clearly see who's targeting is following them even when they are in a building out of the line of sight.

 

Sony and MMORPG have suppressed factual informative posts concerning the Hacking in Planetside 2 yet they allow ignorant posts stating "I have never seen a hacker", lol.  As a community we have a right to know if people are Hacking, what hacks they are using and how they work and express our displeasure with the state of things in Planetside 2.

It could be a great game but sadly it looks like the cheating is so rampant that a honest engagement may never be possible at this point.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/16/12 1:10:07 PM#36
Wait doesn't that work both ways, how would all these players posting about "rampant hacking" spot the hackers?
  Dobeyxxl

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Joined: 3/04/10
Posts: 12

12/16/12 1:52:04 PM#37
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Wait doesn't that work both ways, how would all these players posting about "rampant hacking" spot the hackers?

I have stated before in detail how I gathered definitive proof of hacking but it seemed to displease MMORPG since they deleted my post.

 

To know someone is hacking you have to understand the hacks themselves, whats available and how they work.

I have friends who for the sake of research have purchased scripts to run in Planetside 2 and to this day they have not been banned. Those running the scripts can clearly tell who is using esp hacks and who has their headshot/bone aiming turned up to 100%.

Being a member  of the forums on the planetside 2 hacking sites keeps you up to date on whether their hacks are being detected or not, who got banned and who didn't and what activities leads to a ban and what ones don't. 

You need to know your enemy before you can recognize them.

Hacking scripts are rampant in Planetside 2 and just because people are ignorant to them or the mods on forums erase the posts about them doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

  Bootez

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 57

12/16/12 2:00:10 PM#38

Why are you suprised? The game is a disgrace to the first title. It's really really really bad. I don't see how anyone can even play it for a whole evening. It's laggy. It's unbalanced. It has really shitty graphics for the current age. And most of all, it is so damn unsmooth. 

 

I could put up with everything else, but if the game lacks smoothness (which it isn't even close to be a release candidate client yet, so I have no idea why it is even out other than greed) then why even bother?

  bcbully

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12/16/12 2:02:25 PM#39
Originally posted by Bootez

Why are you suprised? The game is a disgrace to the first title. It's really really really bad. I don't see how anyone can even play it for a whole evening. It's laggy. It's unbalanced. It has really shitty graphics for the current age. And most of all, it is so damn unsmooth. 

 

I could put up with everything else, but if the game lacks smoothness (which it isn't even close to be a release candidate client yet, so I have no idea why it is even out other than greed) then why even bother?

Logging back in now. 

  ShakyMo

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12/16/12 2:09:32 PM#40
Lol same should get a good 4 hours in tonight.
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