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  CalmOceans

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OP  12/15/12 8:30:10 PM#1

When a non-native person  (like me I guess) joins an English server, some people tend to get annoyed and frustrated,

-Is it because of that person's place of origin? Do you feel they won't be able to relate because of cultural differences?

-Is it because their English is often so bad that there's a real communication barrier?

-Is it because they write in their own language at times?

 

  Quizzical

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12/15/12 8:36:16 PM#2

If it means someone who learned English as a second language (or third or whatever) but does at least know English, then I see no problem with it, so long as they don't expect me to know some other language.  It's not like native English-speakers have flawless spelling and grammar on the Internet, either.

If it's someone who doesn't know English at all but wants to play on an English-language server, then it's more problematic.  If it's because there aren't any servers in any language that they do know and won't be anytime soon, then it's annoying, but I can at least understand why they do it and might plausibly do the same if I were in their situation.  If it's because there are servers in their own language but they want to play on English-language servers instead, then I'm not sympathetic and want them to go away.  The last case is likely to be gold farmers, anyway.

There can be pretty big cultural differences even among people whose native language is English.  So cultural differences apart from language are rarely much of a barrier.

  Toxia

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12/15/12 8:37:08 PM#3
Originally posted by CalmOceans

When a non-native person  (like me I guess) joins an English server, some people tend to get annoyed and frustrated,

-Is it because of that person's place of origin? Do you feel they won't be able to relate because of cultural differences?

-Is it because their English is often so bad that there's a real communication barrier?

-Is it because they write in their own language at times?

 

option B for me.

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  Ichmen

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12/15/12 8:37:50 PM#4

the only time i get annoyed when i run across someone who doesnt speak in english to me, is when im on a game that requires it (salem for trading/grouping up ect... or other games fps/rts/moba/kitchen sink) and they do nothing but talk in their language which shows up on my screen as  gibberish. (take asian kanji, that without the support pack shows as empty boxes or a mish mash of letters.  saying hello comes up as "ahg hiyg iuntted")

but generally as a rule i dont give 2 shits unless its an FPS where they have a 200+ ping that lags everything out.. for some reason (helllllllo CS >>")

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  Tolgeranth

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12/15/12 8:38:57 PM#5
I have no issues with chat in another language. I do find it annoying when they ask for some form of assistance and they do not understand english enough to properly frame their request, or understand the assistance given. I get a sore head and key imprints after repeated face to keyboard wtf moments.
  User Deleted
12/15/12 8:39:28 PM#6
Most foreign players I bump into make way more of an effort to learn English than I do their respective languages. This is 'Merica though... home of the fat, ignorant, and intolerant so it's really no surprise that people complain about it. Outside of having a hard time communicating with some foreign players, there is literally no downside. So to directly answer your question, it's a matter of communication, but I've found that most foreigners have, at least, a basic understanding of what I'm trying to say. I personally don't mind at all.
  Sytek_88

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12/15/12 8:39:43 PM#7
only thing that bugs me is when they speak a foriegn language on a NA server in general chat
  DMKano

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12/15/12 8:41:33 PM#8

Doesn't bother me one bit as long as we can communicate effectively, don't care if I am grouped with Xygbdra'shtung from planet Zoltor.

 

  Aelious

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12/15/12 8:42:44 PM#9
Doesn't bother me at all. The only problem I could see would be following directions if coordination between players is needed. It would be handled the same way as anyone that wasn't "working out".
  Kyleran

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12/15/12 8:42:51 PM#10

Can't really tell you, I've never been anything like that. Despite my US orgins, I've been welcomed into a mostly Norweigan guild, fought deep into some of DAOC's toughest dungeons with people from Japan who spoke about 3 words of English (Heal, Run, Thanks) and have been part of multinational corps/alliances in EVE for many years.

Sure, I suppose some of it is language barrier, I've tried a few F2P's where it seems like most of the local chat got dominated by either Spanish or Portuguese, but so I guess that was no fun, but overall I don't have any issue, even when folks decide to chat in local in their native language a bit.

I do like to mess with folks sometimes though, if we're all chatting away in guild channel (or even local) in English and suddenly someone types a sentence in their native language (which I don't understand) I usually try to help them out by supplying my own translation, such as "Raul says he prefers pink lace panties to white, but doesn't mind if others enjoy g-strings".  Usually good for a few laughs.

Ignore the haters, playing on servers with multinational diversity is one reason why I enjoy this hobby so much, sort of like using a Ham radio, without quite so much static.

 

 

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  Roman291

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12/15/12 8:45:31 PM#11
Communication barriers are always annoying, but sometimes it is annoying if they do type in the different langauge. Especially on an english server, and in grouped chats like guild, group, or general. However, I usually don't express it.
  jdlamson75

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12/15/12 8:45:34 PM#12
I played Darkfall with guys from Brazil, Netherlands, England, Germany, pretty much all over the place.  Even Canada.  Never had a problem communicating, and for the most part, they were all real cool fellas.
  Wizardry

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12/15/12 8:53:48 PM#13

That is what made FFXI so great,you played on multi cultural servers,there are no regional servers.

I couldn't care less about language,i had my best of times playing alongside JPN players and befriended a funny cool jpn player.FFXI has a language translator for msot of the major words in the game.

It really shows how care free devs are now days,they do very little to make their games complete ,still NOBODY using a language translator,FFXI the first and probably the last.Games are even getting too lazy to have guilds or prefer to make excuses why they don't.

Developers shoudl be trying to do as much as possible to bring the community together but instead the yaim for soloing and pvp whcih pits players competing rather than working together,i feel the premise behind game design is all wrong.

No where in life do you segregate cultures from one another,except maybe in chruches where they tend to stick to theri own but of course not always.So why in gaming?

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  L0C0Man

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12/15/12 8:55:53 PM#14
It it bothered me, I'd like annoyed, considering that I am a non native person.. :)

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  AlBQuirky

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12/15/12 9:35:37 PM#15

In America, at least, the overall attitude is that everyone else in the world knows, or should know English. "We" expect everything to cater to us, including world-wide gaming. Many Americans cannot fathom that the world is not America. Look at how we handle international relations. We apply our own Bill of Rights, our laws to everyone else in the world ;)

In my experience, I often find that non-native English speakers (writers) are much better with the language than us native speakers :)

When I see in chat someone using a language that is not English, I am reminded about how far reaching the playerbase is. I fondly recall one of the members in my EQ guild was from Denmark. I was flabbergasted! And intrigued :) His English was better than many native speakers'.

I do not speak another language, though I have tried, and am envious of people who can.

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  niceguy3978

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12/15/12 9:40:40 PM#16
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

In America, at least, the overall attitude is that everyone else in the world knows, or should know English. "We" expect everything to cater to us, including world-wide gaming. Many Americans cannot fathom that the world is not America. Look at how we handle international relations. We apply our own Bill of Rights, our laws to everyone else in the world ;)

In my experience, I often find that non-native English speakers (writers) are much better with the language than us native speakers :)

When I see in chat someone using a language that is not English, I am reminded about how far reaching the playerbase is. I fondly recall one of the members in my EQ guild was from Denmark. I was flabbergasted! And intrigued :) His English was better than many native speakers'.

I do not speak another language, though I have tried, and am envious of people who can.

I had a dissertation chair who was born in Romania and it drove me nuts when he proofread my papers, he knew the technical aspects of the English language better than anyone I have ever known.

 

  User Deleted
12/15/12 9:45:16 PM#17
Why the hell would it bother me? I feel like I am a cultrual man. Love to learn.
  asmkm22

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12/15/12 9:45:42 PM#18
If they can't communicate with me, it's their loss.  They can go play a game in the correct region for their language.  When I go to Mexico, I speak Spanish.  When I went to Germany, I spoke German.  I expect people to speak English when playing in such an evironment.

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  synn

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12/15/12 9:48:35 PM#19
nope, it doesn't bother me when any legit player joins my server regardless of nationality or current residence.
  Purutzil

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12/15/12 9:52:32 PM#20
I don't mind if you can speak the language fine, or if it doesn't directly interfere with the gaming experience. My issue is when your playing a competative game and your being unable to communicate threatening a chance to win due to this. Its mostly the language barrier that bothers, particularly if its needed in order to complete something.
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