Originally posted by raapnaap

Originally posted by DarthRaiden
just damage control for their wipe decision..

 

The wipe was needed. As usual, they communicated poorly on it, but any real veteran agrees, the wipe would create a fresh start and make the playing field equal for new players. No need for damage control.

 

As for name stealing... How could anyone defend people stealing well known player names? It is a complete dick move and I'm happy Aventurine returns these names to their real owners.

This happens so often in games even carebears don't usaully whine that a name they wanted to use is taken.... I thought this game was "hardcore" and that dick moves like this was something you are suppose to expect and get over or just go play hello kitty online?

Heh anyhoot I am sure the whiner that got his name back is happy, thing is though this kind of shows us new players should not expect equitable treatment compared to older vets.

Originally posted by Caaahl

OP has the typical mindset of an exploiter.

 

"It's technically possible and it's nowhere written that it's forbidden, so it's OK!"

 

Common sense? A grain of fairness? Naah.

Agreed,

What? I found a way to screw someone over using your tools and now your making it right "behind the scenes"  Theres no do the right thing option  on your website therefore you (AV) should not be able to do it.

I think this is what happens to people who grow up doing everything on the internet.  They forget there are actually other ways to gets things done and make decisions.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Aventurine continue to piss me off.

They let all players that preorder the game to secure a ingame name.

Now, a old player (Celiah Ailey) realize his name is taken and start a whining thread on Darkfall forums and what happens?

Aventurine give him his name back.

 

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=337220

 

This make me believe that some players get special attention by Aventurine. We saw the same behavior in DF1.

 

In Darkfall 1 they changed there own rules by giving away a not conquered town to a whining Zerg (server went down and Aventurine had a rule they would never change the outcome of a siege when server went down). Aventurine acted against their own rulesetting to please the whining Zerg. Aventurine manually transfered the non-conquered town to the Zerg against their own rulesetting. Only chickens go against their own rules to please the bigger crowd.

 

Aventurine have to start acting more professional. Giving benefits to some is not good for this game. Rules is there to be followed and if they need to change them then do that first and dont act against the rulesettings before any change have taken place.

Of all the things to whine about.

Originally posted by Badaboom
Stealing a well known persons game Name is a dick move. I have no sympathy for the thief.

Originally posted by Greymoor
The reserve name tool was not created to be a tool for trolls to abuse others. ./thread

this.

However it was quite funny ;)

Originally posted by Asm0deus

Originally posted by raapnaap

Originally posted by DarthRaiden
just damage control for their wipe decision..

 

The wipe was needed. As usual, they communicated poorly on it, but any real veteran agrees, the wipe would create a fresh start and make the playing field equal for new players. No need for damage control.

 

As for name stealing... How could anyone defend people stealing well known player names? It is a complete dick move and I'm happy Aventurine returns these names to their real owners.

This happens os often in games even carebnears don't usaully whine that a name they wanted to use is taken.... I thought this game was "hardcore" and that dick moves like this was something you are suppose to expect and get over or just go play hello kitty online?

 

 

Heh anyhoot I am sure the whiner that got his name back is happy, thing is though this kind of shows us new players should not expect equitable treatment compared to older vets.

Wow just wow, since when should hardcore and being a "dick" be intertwined.  Is that now one of the requirements for playing a "hardcore" computer game, being a dick?  Dude Im worried about the way your mind is working through this senario.

I dont really see the problem..?

Aventurine is kinda famous for bugs and half-assed systems. There'll be lots of  things to abuse in this game, so you might as well try to keep a cool head about it while it gets fixed... if it gets fixed.

Originally posted by snapfusion

Originally posted by Asm0deus

Originally posted by raapnaap

Originally posted by DarthRaiden
just damage control for their wipe decision..

 

The wipe was needed. As usual, they communicated poorly on it, but any real veteran agrees, the wipe would create a fresh start and make the playing field equal for new players. No need for damage control.

 

As for name stealing... How could anyone defend people stealing well known player names? It is a complete dick move and I'm happy Aventurine returns these names to their real owners.

This happens os often in games even carebnears don't usaully whine that a name they wanted to use is taken.... I thought this game was "hardcore" and that dick moves like this was something you are suppose to expect and get over or just go play hello kitty online?

 

 

Heh anyhoot I am sure the whiner that got his name back is happy, thing is though this kind of shows us new players should not expect equitable treatment compared to older vets.

Wow just wow, since when should hardcore and being a "dick" be intertwined.  Is that now one of the requirements for playing a "hardcore" computer game, being a dick?  Dude Im worried about the way your mind is working through this senario.

Its actually a  legit question while being a bit sarcastic, as when I have, in the past questioned dick moves in such game, I have been told this very thing and generally this is the normal response.  So it's ok to use dick moves towards a newb if your a vet but not the other way around ?

In most MMO's a name does not mean mutch anymore. But in games like DarkFall it does! I can remember I took a year break, 1 year later I come back and made some Troll coment in chat (kinda the way to say hi in DarkFall) and some in the area says "Hi, look who we got there! Its HUmar!" Never in any game I experianced that after 1 year people still know your name! I don't care about my name (That I got from PSO 10-12 years ago) most of the time, since I put something in front of the name so I can still use my name with something added to it, but in DarkFall I would care simply because your name means a way more then just a few letters! So I can see why they did this! (luckly I already reserved my name)

OP is a wolly... The intended purpose was to make Celiah rage, he deserved it just for his multi-coloured recruitment spam in ingame chats so job done, but common sense prevailed and all is well again.

Well how did they give him his name back without taking it away from another player?That in itself would be wrong.

The common sense move would be to tell that player to go to a different server where he can use his old name,IF there is more than one server of course.

Originally posted by Dark_HUmar

In most MMO's a name does not mean mutch anymore. But in games like DarkFall it does! I can remember I took a year break, 1 year later I come back and made some Troll coment in chat (kinda the way to say hi in DarkFall) and some in the area says "Hi, look who we got there! Its HUmar!" Never in any game I experianced that after 1 year people still know your name! I don't care about my name (That I got from PSO 10-12 years ago) most of the time, since I put something in front of the name so I can still use my name with something added to it, but in DarkFall I would care simply because your name means a way more then just a few letters! So I can see why they did this! (luckly I already reserved my name)

Of course choosen names are essential, that point should be out of discussion in any MMORPG board.

The example you give here should stand for all the MMO players out there and i am also attched to my in game name.

Despite AV attempts to kill the RPG out of Darkfall , create a Avatar and name it is one of the very basic and founding idea of the genre.

Originally posted by Wizardry

Well how did they give him his name back without taking it away from another player?That in itself would be wrong.

The common sense move would be to tell that player to go to a different server where he can use his old name,IF there is more than one server of course.

There is one NA server and one EU server..

Originally posted by Wizardry

Well how did they give him his name back without taking it away from another player?That in itself would be wrong.

The common sense move would be to tell that player to go to a different server where he can use his old name,IF there is more than one server of course.

There are only two servers.  Eu and NA.  Each server can hold 50,000 people and have 10,000 concurrent users playing.  This was true for DF1 but don't know if it remains true for Unholy Wars. 

Originally posted by Phry
Its pretty simple imo, the original owner of the name, ie. the one with it from DF1, has first and overiding claim to that name. I have to agree with AV's handling of it in this case tbh, i'd go one further and only allow names to be claimed beforehand if the name was from a character in DF1 and the claimee is the original owner of that name, though why they couldnt account link these things before hand i don't know, would probably avoid a lot of these kinds of disputes.

This seems reasonable especially if they made this known before hand, instead of saying preorder and get to reserve your name.

Av finally realises that catering to the assholes ingame or outgame isnt a good thing. It pisses people off, it drive people away or it shows how a company treats its future players.

It has nothing to do with the game or the mechanics. Its not because its a FFA Full loot pvp game that its needed to act like jerks 24/7 .

Im glad AV realises this. The bad guys need to go, the good guys need to stay ! Cause whats next? visiting someone in real life and give him a punch in the face cause he did something to you ingame? for the most pple in DF that would count as "owned" or "you got looted in real life" or the famous "+1" .

Its a game wich we play inside the game. rewarding griefers or trollers outside the game is not done!

+1 for av ;)