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12/15/12 12:53:59 AM#61
Originally posted by stygianapoth maybe they havent played any pvp games before? or just wow ?
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12/15/12 1:23:09 AM#62
Originally posted by Lord.BachusOriginally posted by Rimmersman My opinion is based on my own experience having played both games. GW2 has the most mindless, boring, near pointless PvP in any MMO on the market today.  |
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12/15/12 1:28:15 AM#63
Originally posted by stygianapoth It doesn't boil down to zerging, but if you want PvP to be about gear like in WoW then it isn't the right game for you. |
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12/15/12 8:04:18 AM#64
Originally posted by stygianapoth and you came now after 3 months ?
try to play at least free tournaments at this moment, you can join even solo and there you will find also premade teams ... then come again .
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12/15/12 8:17:46 AM#65
Originally posted by Rimmersman And with no descriptive reasoning, explanation or evidence to back up your opinion, we have a clear winner of the thread here everybody. |
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12/15/12 8:21:43 AM#66
Get a group of your friends together and play some tournaments, it is a fun time chatting with your buddys on skype and doing some pvp to pass the time.
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12/15/12 8:45:13 AM#67
WvW - better than wintergrasp, ilum in swtor (lol), fusang in tsw. Slightly better than warhammer and aion. Not as good as daoc or either planetside.
Spvp - better than wow, swtor & rift battlegrounds, about the same as war scenarios, not as good as gw1 Ffa pvp - doesn't have it, but then its usually shite in themepark mmos anyway e.g. wow. Sandboxes like eve and df do this best. |
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12/15/12 8:59:14 AM#68
I think people should take Shaky's example and distinguish between the types of PvP you're referring to or we're going to miss the bus to constructive debate. For example: Arena-type PvP and World PvP are incomparables but still fall under the broad term of PvP. With the exception of activities like Snowball fighting and Keg Brawl, I suck in GW2's structured PvP so I haven't experienced it enough to comment. >.< |
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KingJiggly
 Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/11
Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome. |
12/15/12 9:03:51 AM#69
Originally posted by Rimmersman I like how the link you posted has like 5 comments. Shows how great that games pvp is... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation |
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12/15/12 10:35:25 AM#70
Different PvP games cater to different players. If you dont know the types and subtypes ie; FFA, Loot drop/non, Open World, Instanced, RvR, Balanced, player based economies, and so on. Going back to Ultima Online and before that text based games like Space Merchant, you should know that every person has their niche. Now days games are catered to more casual gamers (WoW, LoL, Rift, Diablo 3), that isn't an insult its just a business decision. Hopefully in the future some of us hardcore pvper's can find a real home because the fact is that I feel that I don't have one. Last two would have to have been DAOC(2004 RIP) and EVE (2008 RIP), this is just my honest opinion. Guild Wars 2 would be just that an option that seems to try and bridge PvP and Casual PvP, and I can respect that. As to people complaining about hacks and cheats, all I gotta say is get better. I have been one of the best in any game I've ever played and yes that includes me beating cheaters and hackers. Planetside 2 as an example since its recent, I was number one for weeks during the CB and OB. Yes there were hackers and aim botters, but they can only aim as good as you can get and they definitely cannot hack a brain. Here is why some of us including myself love PVP, the situations are unlimited and the solutions are infinite as well. And to those that think that classes or builds or gear have anything to do with winning in any game that is semi balanced, I have to say I usually play healer or support classes which until recently were always passive and not geared for fighting 1 on 1 or say 2-3 or 10 on 1, but strategy/patience/execution is what sets things in stone. I have also taken off my gear in almost every game and beat fully geared opponents as well.
You win some you lose some, but you always gain experience. www.addictguild.com Blood in Blood out |
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12/15/12 1:16:11 PM#71
Originally posted by stygianapoth
Try a tournament, or better yet, a payed tourney (typically called tPvP). The basic hot-joinable sPvP matches are generally lower-skill, with just casual or semi-hardcore PvPers. Teams do not require little teamwork, or specific builds or meta. However in tournaments and especially payed tourneys, the skill level, the teamwork the meta is significantly higher. To the point that yes, this game does have the best PvP in the genre (by a long shot IMHO). I must say I'm not entirely sure you played much of the game at all.. if at all. I say this for several reasons. First, you mention fighting other factions (which I highlighted). The game has no factions, and it's immediately obvious the moment you create a character. If you speak the truth and you quite after the first week the game was out I suggest trying it again. The PvP has come a long way, there have been a number of great improvements, not to mention new sPvP maps. As to the 'there are no rewards' thing, the devs have actively said they want to do something about that. Though I wouldn't expect anything that will make you statistically more powerful than others. That just isn't the way this game works.
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12/15/12 8:29:58 PM#72
Tbh Fion I think GW2s pvp is lacking, it's not especially popular when it comes to comp pvp and the open world is clearly lacking. While popularity is not something that says it's good or bad it's and indicator in the gaming world that a project is healthy or not.
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12/15/12 9:34:29 PM#73
It doesn't have open world PvP, thats true. They clearly decided against that but certainly some folks prefer it. But as far as structured team tournament PvP, there is no competition IMHO. I also think their server vs server PvP is the current best, though it also needs some serious attention and fixes.
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KingJiggly
Novice Member
Joined: 8/03/11
Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome. |
12/15/12 9:43:29 PM#74
I say gw2 pvp is very good for what it is. Once they give it the esportnneccesities, it will easily have the best pvp out there. Of course balance is an issue as well. But that is a constant thing.
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12/15/12 9:54:21 PM#75
After playing DAoC for years, and every AAA mmo since, i have to say the pvp in GW2 is not very good. The PvP zones are too small. There is no real reason for doing anything. They need to award Karma for killing people. The giant red names that appear through solid objects need to go. Add /stick and /face. Agree with others who say the pvp in GW1 was much better. Was hoping for that kind of experience in this game, sadly it's no good. The PVE is pretty fun for a while though. |
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Originally posted by korent1991 like i said, no progression. |
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12/16/12 1:18:50 PM#77
The arena pvp is quite okay and the server vs server is decent, it's mostly big zergs and clusterfucks which they encourage. The open world pvp is something I'd really like to have, not being able to talk to your enemies is damn boring imo. The fact that you cannot even see their name is just terrible imo. |
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12/16/12 1:22:35 PM#78
Originally posted by KingJiggly The games in beta lol. |
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12/16/12 1:23:40 PM#79
I started laughing after seeing the words Gw2 and good................. Alot of delusional ppl. |
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12/16/12 1:54:08 PM#80
Terms seem to be splashed around a bit.IF you mean the small group 15 minute fights....I have no experience or interest. IF you mean WvW.That I have an interest in and opinion.WvW in GW2 is more like a basketball game than warfare. Just drink 5 Red Bull's and run around in a zerg 24/7 taking the same places over and over and over again as the enemy faction takes thaem back and so you retake...until you drop. sounds like great fun...huh ? |
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