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  Ice-Queen

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"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

12/12/12 4:04:34 PM#121
I think there are plenty of people still willing to pay a subscription fee for a great mmo. The problem is, devs are lazy and keep making the same mmo's with a different skin. If people want to play WoW, they'll play WoW, not a clone of it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll gladly pay $25-$50 a month subscription fee for a great mmo. Sadly, there haven't been any good mmo's in years.

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  nariusseldon

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12/12/12 4:16:55 PM#122
Originally posted by Tayah
I think there are plenty of people still willing to pay a subscription fee for a great mmo. The problem is, devs are lazy and keep making the same mmo's with a different skin. If people want to play WoW, they'll play WoW, not a clone of it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll gladly pay $25-$50 a month subscription fee for a great mmo. Sadly, there haven't been any good mmo's in years.

I think the issue is competition. Surely in the absence of any online game, i am more than happy to pay a sub fee. Heck, before the time of UO, i have paid HOURLY fee for such online games.

But if i can play a fun game for free now, why do i want to pay a sub? It is not about whether i can afford it, or i feel it is worth the sub fee, it is if there is a cheaper, better alternative.

Now there are many alternatives.

Example ... PS2 is a fun game for me. It is F2P. Is there a reason why i should not play it just becuase it is f2p? Nope. If there is another MMOFPS that is as much fun as PS2 and ask for a sub ... would should i switch when i can get similar entertainment for free, with no commitment?

 

  Arclan

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12/12/12 4:57:11 PM#123


Originally posted by DavisFlight
Oh hey, another mostly singleplayer game that is blaming their pricing instead of the fact that their game was bad.

 

MMORPGs do fine with monthly fees. Heavily scripted, instanced, mostly singleplayer affairs that rely on dev content do NOT do well with a monthly fee.


This.

Others posts I agree have said:

1. "stop trying to copy WoW."
2. F2P attracts more kiddies and also more hackers
3. Subs decline because games have no longevity.

P L A N E T S I D E 1 is up !! check PS1 forum for link to current installer.
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  AlBQuirky

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12/12/12 5:24:27 PM#124


Originally posted by worldalpha
From an interview of theirs:

Bylos: Yeah. We tried with the subscription model and we knew the momentum was against us, especially in the gamer mindset. People have become more and more fed up with subscriptions.

Bylos: Oh, we do. We tried to be a responsible subscription company and release something every month to give value for that money. Ignoring that I work here, I felt that as a gamer, that is what I’d want to see from a subscription game. But it really hasn’t paid off in the end, so we have to make some changes to bring more people in. But in terms of the subscription dying, I think Blizzard are laughing at us all from atop their thrones. Whenever I hear people say that subs are dead, I point to the biggest money-makers in the industry.

 

So, even though I hear time and again, people here saying the would rather pay a subscription, it doesn't look like that is really a reality anymore, unless your name is Blizzard.



Personally, I would rather pay a sub than deal with cash shops. I know. I'm weird and stupid and gullible.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Teala

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12/12/12 5:29:15 PM#125
So a dveloper says it is the pricing model as to why their game is doing poorly.    Forget that your game is poorly designed and implemented and not very good over all.   That has nothing to do with it...nothing at all.

  xmechna

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Joined: 4/12/05
Posts: 19

12/12/12 5:31:33 PM#126

let me list my personal reason why i dont play tsw 

1. grafix was very poor (for me) when i play a game an someone starts talking i dont like them to look like a blow up dolls or people with paralized faces.

2. gameplay sucked (for me) it was like playing a 3rd rate shooter with a mmorpg overlay and voiceovers.

 

personly i dont pay to play what i myself consider crap, im just thanking my lucky stars i got into i think it was the last stress test so i could check the game out.

TSW has great consept  and yes i was giddy when i first found it seen the intros i was expecting alot but i got nuthing.

  Xiaoki

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12/13/12 11:42:47 PM#127


Originally posted by Teala
So a dveloper says it is the pricing model as to why their game is doing poorly.    Forget that your game is poorly designed and implemented and not very good over all.   That has nothing to do with it...nothing at all.

Wait, are you talking about TOR or TSW?

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