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  Graveblade

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"In the wheel of chance and fate, spinning as we watch and wait"

 
OP  12/12/12 11:20:18 AM#1

For anyone talking about this delay who has not read the reasons why, read this.

 

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=336131

 

Aventurine actually have good reason for this delay. Mmorpg.com kids need to learn a thing or two about the game industry and not get all angry when they do not get what they want, when they want.

  bingo69

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12/12/12 11:23:51 AM#2

Good reason? If you state a date and can't meet it, you postpone it to another. That's normal. But dfamn, don't postpone it to a date you knoqw you won't achieve. Aventurine always has been this way, postponing, giving "hope" to their fanbase and ruinbing it over and over and over.

 

Good reason game ha sfull of bug? They should of had this beta months ago actually. This is by far, not a reason for them to keepdrawing the game launch allll the way for years.

  Cstahler92

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12/12/12 12:29:21 PM#3
Originally posted by RDBeast

For anyone talking about this delay who has not read the reasons why, read this.

 

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=336131

 

Aventurine actually have good reason for this delay. Mmorpg.com kids need to learn a thing or two about the game industry and not get all angry when they do not get what they want, when they want.

The reason tells us that they have known for at least a week that it wouldn't meet the launch. So instead of announcing it the day they found out they decided to trade for the day it is scheduled to launch. Aventurine needs to learn a thing or two about business and how to treat their fanbase and potential clients with respect instead of flipping them off.

  Maephisto

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12/12/12 12:32:28 PM#4

  LizardEgypt

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Hmm ?

12/12/12 12:33:32 PM#5
I was hoping for a delay after seeing how not confident tasos was during the interview, the beta is a good thing, this launch needs to be perfect as it's the last chance.

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  BuniontToes

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12/12/12 12:49:59 PM#6
After looking through the suport website I was pretty sure there wouldd be a delay.  Ther are a lot of little things which go into a product.   They aren't sexy but they are every bit  as important as flashy grpahics and gameplay.
  Lahuzer

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12/12/12 12:53:07 PM#7
Here is a very good post my friend Adûn made on the subject on the DF forums: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=336390 I totally agree with him.
  Graveblade

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"In the wheel of chance and fate, spinning as we watch and wait"

 
OP  12/12/12 9:39:09 PM#8

The thing is, as was said in the update, they need to communicate with multiple parties to make sure everyone involved is up to scratch with what is going on. There are probably some things they would have to deal with in regards to steam aswell considering the game got greenlit so fast. The process is alot more complex than people think. Maybe they should of delayed it even further in the first place but ofcourse they do want to get the game out as quickly as they can.

 

I want to get into the world of Agon just like anyone else who is interested in the game... But I do actually think the delay is a good thing as it means the game itself can get a bit more testing and the release should be smoother.

  Dantae87

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12/12/12 9:40:39 PM#9
thi sis great news! Hope they delay it to may id rather a GOOD solid game be released than a buggy mess.

  stux

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12/12/12 9:45:40 PM#10
Originally posted by RDBeast

For anyone talking about this delay who has not read the reasons why, read this.

 

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=336131

 

Aventurine actually have good reason for this delay. Mmorpg.com kids need to learn a thing or two about the game industry and not get all angry when they do not get what they want, when they want.

 

Deciding to do beta after missing TWO announced release dates.

AV should have forseen that and beta been a planned part of the game's development like all other developers?

It sounds more like an excuse to me (add it to the pile) then reality.

AV has poor time management planning skills.

From my perspectice of playing the game for many years this is more likely an excuse for an unfinished product then a legitimate excuse.

AV has given so many excuses for not getting this out the door since I started playing three years ago.  Originally, it was suppose to be the next big patch (they called it an expansion but to me it sounded like what Asheron's Call pumped out every month) to the game added content and balance to the game.

Here we are today and yes they have added, changed, and fixed a more then that original patch

BUT.......

It still isn't finished and I am not happily playing it.

If I had more time I would probably be playing something else right now but RL has me busy so when that slows down if the game is out I will try it.

But if it isn't I am going to try something else that may turn my attention away.

In either case, I am sick of rationalized excuses.

 

 

  Kuro1n

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12/12/12 9:46:26 PM#11
Not going to play the game I believe however they are doing the right thing in postponing. Although they could have made a lot better job in the way they told their fanbase.
  Kyleran

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12/12/12 9:50:25 PM#12
Tasos and his buddies stay up late trying to figure out how much crap they can shovel at the fans and still get them to support their efforts. They must have gotten a good laugh with this latest scheme. Must say though it is a novel new way to get players to pay them to test it. +1

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  DarthRaiden

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12/13/12 3:08:07 AM#13

Sure. After claiming for months how no public beta test is needed and deny any request from the community to have one they find out at laucnh date and the very day of launch  that indeed a beta test would do good.

its ridiculous if you think about it ..and yes i am laughing now

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  joeri123

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12/13/12 3:17:51 AM#14

Its not about reasons.

Its about the way they communicate that pisses people off. 

If they would have said "We'll do a beta and then release when we think it's ready". People wouldn't be so pissed. 

Also the fact that they had to wait to until the day before release doesn't help either. Makes me think about a 5 year old thats scared to tell his mom that he broke something.

  SysFail

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12/13/12 4:07:35 AM#15

I can never understand why some get so upset over a form of entertainment, it's not like it's going to enrich their lives or make them a better person, its just entertainment, no different than a film, a tv program etc etc.

  DarthRaiden

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12/13/12 4:27:30 AM#16
Originally posted by SysFail

I can never understand why some get so upset over a form of entertainment, it's not like it's going to enrich their lives or make them a better person, its just entertainment, no different than a film, a tv program etc etc.

your list is incomplete by missing the most important...

a hobby..

i hope you know how a hobby can be important to a person.....and the difference from passive enjoyment from entertainment and active investment in a hobby..

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  User Deleted
12/13/12 4:31:20 AM#17

imo, it's trust and respect, which is so rare these days.

 

  SysFail

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12/13/12 5:33:32 AM#18
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by SysFail

I can never understand why some get so upset over a form of entertainment, it's not like it's going to enrich their lives or make them a better person, its just entertainment, no different than a film, a tv program etc etc.

your list is incomplete by missing the most important...

a hobby..

i hope you know how a hobby can be important to a person.....and the difference from passive enjoyment from entertainment and active investment in a hobby..

I wouldn't consider gaming a hobby, not if all somebody does is play them. A hobby usually involves learning something new, something that expands a persons knowledge, at least that's how i perceive a hobby.

Gaming falls into entertainment for me, i certaintly haven't learnt anything i could use in the real world by playing a game that i can think of.

 

  itchmon

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12/13/12 5:38:39 AM#19

tasos kind of reminds me of the host that you see when you walk into a very crowded restaurant.  you can see it's gonna be 45 minutes before you're seated and then the host says, it'll be ten minutes.

 

he or she is lying but you're a fool if you believe him

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  DarthRaiden

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12/13/12 5:40:25 AM#20
Originally posted by SysFail
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by SysFail

I can never understand why some get so upset over a form of entertainment, it's not like it's going to enrich their lives or make them a better person, its just entertainment, no different than a film, a tv program etc etc.

your list is incomplete by missing the most important...

a hobby..

i hope you know how a hobby can be important to a person.....and the difference from passive enjoyment from entertainment and active investment in a hobby..

I wouldn't consider gaming a hobby, not if all somebody does is play them. A hobby usually involves learning something new, something that expands a persons knowledge, at least that's how i perceive a hobby.

Gaming falls into entertainment for me, i certaintly haven't learnt anything i could use in the real world by playing a game that i can think of.

 

i dont want to get deep into philosophical discussion ..put  "play"  goes hand in hand with "learn" ..i agree that there can be differces in qualities for example ..your  everday shooter  to a complex realistic flight simulation ..i think MMORPG's arent on the lower end  and lean towards the higher end ..at least the sandbox  type ;)

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