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  Elikal

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OP  12/12/12 1:03:37 PM#1

Really, what gives? I am so tired of instanced this and instanced that. Alas it seems to be the new trend, to use Dungeons solely for endgame prolonging, see GW2. I really loved those open, huge dungeons as in the days of EQ2 and Vanguard, where you just could roam into.

Why Dungeons all were made instanced endgame these days. Meesa not liken thisen.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Icewhite

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12/12/12 1:04:13 PM#2
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Elikal

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OP  12/12/12 1:09:14 PM#3
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  nariusseldon

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12/12/12 1:09:40 PM#4
I say "yes" to instance. IN fact, i will play an instance only, no persistent world game tonight.
  dave6660

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12/12/12 1:12:12 PM#5
Maybe you can get Nancy Reagan to be your spokesperson.

"Why so serious?"
-- The Joker

  krondin

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12/12/12 1:20:33 PM#6
Instancing has become a nessicity in mmo's due to a combination of organized gold farming ( mostly ) ,  and large guild organizations who can easily take advantage of open raiding situations, depriving the rest of us of enjoyment of them.  Its a type of gaming that has come to mainstream and offers its own benifits, alot of which you dont think about, for example, if you are in a instanced 5 man dungeon, you dont have to worry about other players entering your area and killing your mobs or bosses, kill stealing you for  loots, or otherwise making it all a bad playtime. So pro's and Con's i just wonder what will be next in mmo inovations we can all maybe enjoy.
  botrytis

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12/12/12 1:24:12 PM#7
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

No - Instances are done for several factors. 1. ALL the BOSSES are killed by one group. 2. The group gets all the loot. 3. Easier to control boss spawns. 4. Easier to design and control. 5. Prevents people from complaining about people camping bosses.

 

You already made a thread on this topic. One thread is enough. Now you sound like a spoiled child. Go to bed without supper.

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  madazz

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12/12/12 1:24:14 PM#8
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Agreed. There is room for any and all types of games anyways.

 

Besides, the current trend shows the OP is going to get his way (which I happen to want too) soon enough.

  Loktofeit

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12/12/12 1:27:03 PM#9
Originally posted by dave6660
Maybe you can get Nancy Reagan to be your spokesperson.

Nancy Reagan? Nah, this is more like Tipper Gore's territory.

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  karat76

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12/12/12 1:35:23 PM#10
I have some fond memories of pre instance times as well but in all honesty I don't feel it would work now just due to thenumber of people in mmos right now the odds are to great that you will run into jerks. Gold campers, boss stealers, botters and trainers you know the people who want to sterilize.
  Rimmersman

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12/12/12 1:42:25 PM#11
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Where have you been, mmorpg.com is full of repeatative threads and post. 

  nariusseldon

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12/12/12 1:45:30 PM#12
Originally posted by karat76
I have some fond memories of pre instance times as well but in all honesty I don't feel it would work now just due to thenumber of people in mmos right now the odds are to great that you will run into jerks. Gold campers, boss stealers, botters and trainers you know the people who want to sterilize.

I have some horrible memories of camping of pre-instance times.

But seriously i don't see much downside of instanced dungeons. You still can group with ANYONE before going into one. And i never feel that having some random people showing up when my group is fighting a boss .. add any fun to teh encounter. Often it reduces teh fun.

  Icewhite

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12/12/12 1:46:17 PM#13
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by dave6660
Maybe you can get Nancy Reagan to be your spokesperson.

Nancy Reagan? Nah, this is more like Tipper Gore's territory.

LOL. 

Unfortunately, much of the readership won't have any firm memory of Tipper Gore.  Or Frank Zappa :/

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  nariusseldon

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12/12/12 1:46:44 PM#14
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

 

LOL .. you expect to make a difference ranting in a forum?

And ... you have a "cause" in video games? We are talking about entertainment products, right?

  ShakyMo

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12/12/12 1:47:58 PM#15
Agree with op - no instancing

Loved the way daoc had no instances

My current mmo is planetside 2 for the same reason

Instancing sucks.
  botrytis

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12/12/12 1:48:39 PM#16
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

 

LOL .. you expect to make a difference ranting in a forum?

And ... you have a "cause" in video games? We are talking about entertainment products, right?

He has no life.....

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  madazz

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Joined: 10/07/03
Posts: 1306

12/12/12 1:51:03 PM#17
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

 

LOL .. you expect to make a difference ranting in a forum?

And ... you have a "cause" in video games? We are talking about entertainment products, right?

He has no life.....

Look at the person you are agreeing with lol. 

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/12/12 1:51:39 PM#18
Also all this "oh people camp mobs and stuff"

Yes in everquest

But you can do open dungeons without all those problems - daoc did it 12 years ago.

Gw2 could have done it now with their scaling dynamic events and gold / silver / bronze medal system.

No instancing doesn't mean reintroducing all the problems EQ had with it.
  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19793

12/12/12 1:54:59 PM#19
Originally posted by ShakyMo


No instancing doesn't mean reintroducing all the problems EQ had with it.

May be not. But since it is a pretty good solution, there is little reason not to use it.
 

  Icewhite

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Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

12/12/12 1:55:29 PM#20
Originally posted by madazz
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Icewhite
Continuous repetitions of the same topics--just say no!

Lol, ok point taken. Still, we must drum for our cause until we are heard. ;)

It just seems to get worse, somehow, with each new MMO.

 

LOL .. you expect to make a difference ranting in a forum?

And ... you have a "cause" in video games? We are talking about entertainment products, right?

He has no life.....

Look at the person you are agreeing with lol. 

My goodness, they're revealing themselves to the left and to the right today.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

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