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  QSatu

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12/12/12 9:35:36 AM#21
If they are going this way then the money they are making from f2p AoC isn't that spectacular.
  Woopin

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12/12/12 9:38:58 AM#22
I think I will actually buy this now...

  Talonsin

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12/12/12 9:42:11 AM#23

Yeah!  Monthly points expire after 6 months!  How awesome!

I love this new model for F2Pers but if you bought a lifetime and have to spend your points or lose them every six months and you get no discount on DLC, it kinds sucks.

Just one more example of why lifetime subs and supporting these game companies usually comes around to bite you in the butt.  Not only do you lose your right to vote with your wallet but you are also stuck in whatever crazy F2P model they launch.  Seriously, points expire after 6 months?  Who does that?

  grimal

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12/12/12 10:03:08 AM#24

Where's bcbully?  Hasn't he chimed in yet?  I expect he'll do cartwheels.

 

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  korvass

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12/12/12 10:08:10 AM#25
Originally posted by Siveria
I really, really dislike when they lock story content and such behind a price tag, it just pisses me off to no end. However I bought the game at release and played it for like 1 day before it bored the hell out of me and I uninstalled it. With this b2p option if old buyers of the game can get in for free I may actually mess around in it due to being that bored irl.

So, uh.. they shouldn't get paid for working hard to create new content? You should just get it for nothing because you paid 30-50 for an already complete game with tons of content.

Wow...

I don't think you can make this deal much fairer, to be honest.

  Po_gg

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12/12/12 10:11:26 AM#26

Charmed MMO? Holy <bleep> that would be some crazy stuff indeed...

:)

  mbd1968

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12/12/12 10:16:22 AM#27
Originally posted by Talonsin

Yeah!  Monthly points expire after 6 months!  How awesome!

... Seriously, points expire after 6 months?  Who does that?

I'm sure if enough lifers complain this will get changesd to points for ever. If it doesn't non-Lifers will be reluctent to spend money as they will be wondering how the company can crap on them also. The nobody wins, neither Funcom or us.

  Ginaz

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12/12/12 10:19:14 AM#28
Originally posted by Talonsin

Yeah!  Monthly points expire after 6 months!  How awesome!

I love this new model for F2Pers but if you bought a lifetime and have to spend your points or lose them every six months and you get no discount on DLC, it kinds sucks.

Just one more example of why lifetime subs and supporting these game companies usually comes around to bite you in the butt.  Not only do you lose your right to vote with your wallet but you are also stuck in whatever crazy F2P model they launch.  Seriously, points expire after 6 months?  Who does that?

6 Months is plenty of time to log in at least once and spend your points.  If you don't log in for over 6 months, well, then I guess the game isn't important to you and therefore it doesn't really matter.

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  Coolit

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12/12/12 10:44:10 AM#29
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Talonsin

Yeah!  Monthly points expire after 6 months!  How awesome!

... Seriously, points expire after 6 months?  Who does that?

I'm sure if enough lifers complain this will get changesd to points for ever. If it doesn't non-Lifers will be reluctent to spend money as they will be wondering how the company can crap on them also. The nobody wins, neither Funcom or us.

I have lifetime and already made my views clear about this on the official forums, it's the only negative thing in my opinion and hope it gets changed so they dont expire (even if they add a cap), otherwise it’s a great move and a great model. The people playing SWTOR with all its restrictions they have must be scratching their heads right about now.

  kevjards

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12/12/12 10:47:16 AM#30
Originally posted by marz.at.play

 

ATTENTION!!!

 

 

Why in the world didn't they do this model with AoC??? The world wouldn't be so empty. Insteady they penny pinched with AoC and TSW gets the proper B2P model? WTF! I loved TSW but couldn't justify the subscription once GW2 came out. I will now go back to TSW because it's a fantastic game, but do this for AoC as well and I'm back to that game in a flash.

 
 
 

totally agree with this..they  should do the same with AOC

  erictlewis

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12/12/12 10:50:49 AM#31

I logged in and all I can say was wow, looks like everybody else did there is so many players at argartha that its lagging hard.  I never seen this many players at this time of the day when I left. 

I got to say swtor should have went this route, they would have gotten less hate. 

 

  JKwervo

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12/12/12 10:50:49 AM#32
Originally posted by GR3NDEL

This was quite the surprise to wake up to... but not a bad one in the least.  They tried using the subscription model - it didn't work, so Funcom is astute enough to move to another model.  Nothing wrong with that - it's actually good business sense.

However, I'm curious about the posters who screamed 'I hate TSW because it's not F2P!  It has to go to F2P!  It has to go to F2P!!!' for all these months.  Now that they have had their wish granted, will they say 'Hey cool, let me dive on in!' or will they find themselves scrambling for some other reason to hate TSW, since one of their biggest justifications just got knocked out from under them?

Time will tell.

I am actually going to go back and dive in myself. :D

 

This is a very very positive change in my book.

  Rawiz

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12/12/12 11:10:53 AM#33
Originally posted by GR3NDEL

However, I'm curious about the posters who screamed 'I hate TSW because it's not F2P!  It has to go to F2P!  It has to go to F2P!!!' for all these months.  Now that they have had their wish granted, will they say 'Hey cool, let me dive on in!' or will they find themselves scrambling for some other reason to hate TSW, since one of their biggest justifications just got knocked out from under them?

Time will tell.

I don't like FC much for a plethora of reasons, and having this game sub+store+box price mmo was one of them.

This is what I said earlier in the first B2P topic:

"Good model for new people to pick it up. Lifers get shafted a bit, but overall I like it."

I've done the trial and will probably even buy it now from some christmas sale. The story is good so I'm willing to give FC ~20e for it.

  azzamasin

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12/12/12 11:27:20 AM#34
Downloading the updates as we speak.  I always thought TSW was a good game, just wasnt worth a subscription because I no longer feel subscription is the way to go in todays market.  Its much easier to get your revenue from a good cash shop with non-P2W items such as boosts, convience items and costume items.  If any game was made for costume items its TSW's apparel shop.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Kuppa

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12/12/12 11:33:58 AM#35
Originally posted by grimal

Where's bcbully?  Hasn't he chimed in yet?  I expect he'll do cartwheels.

 

I don't believe so, just yesterday he was saying B2P was bad for GW2....


  Deeter

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12/12/12 11:39:42 AM#36

So if I bought TSW at launch I essentially have F2P now but if I bought ToR at launch I'm treated like a disabled kid in a wheelchair.

 

GG

  Torvaldr

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12/12/12 11:54:16 AM#37

This is so fricken awesome!  I really wish they had done this from the start because I think their fortunes would have been vastly different.  I also wish rift would have done this shift with Storm Legion.  I think they missed an opportunity with that.

Anyway, I really hope this is a success for them.  I am definitely going to see about purchasing this one.  The $30 for the box price is very sweet.  Great job Funcom.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  laserit

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12/12/12 11:56:09 AM#38

This is a great model and I really hope FC is successful with it. I'm a lifetimer and 6 months is plenty of time to spend your monthly points.

I dont feel shafted at all, props to FC

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  Torvaldr

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12/12/12 12:20:01 PM#39
I just checked my Funcom acct and still have 600 points left over from AoC.  Did I mention this is awesome.  I've wanted to play a game with this sort of theme.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Theocritus

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12/12/12 12:33:01 PM#40
     Now make Anarchy Online a 30 dollar b2p and you have my business.....
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